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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Chemy]
    #8545187 - 06/20/08 05:18 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I believe that the value was just over $800.  So, not quite a felony, I suspect. 

Yeah, true that.  I was told by the booking officer in the sheriff's office, right before jail, that they cannot be seen in bars (they cannot go to them, in other words), as their job stipulates that.  But that doesn't mean they can't pick up a 6 pack on the way home.

Yeah, silly police.  What'll they think of next?  Oh, yeah, police state and martial lawwww. Dumb ass me for questioning legitimacy of police officers' actions...

Oh, and nah.  My room mate isn't lying to save face.  He didn't say anything outside, especially not consent.  We'd had a house meeting on what to do if the situation arose...I trust he did what he was supposed to do. I do believe him.  he's got more to lose than I, perhaps.


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Tri High]
    #8545218 - 06/20/08 05:37 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

> I believe that the value was just over $800.  So, not quite a felony, I suspect. 

Where I was growing up, anything over $500 was a felony.


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Seuss]
    #8545249 - 06/20/08 05:50 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Anything over $100 is a felony here (grand theft).


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Chemy]
    #8545301 - 06/20/08 06:23 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

$500 < item < $25,000 is Class C felony.

The kid that stole it said that the police dropped charges on him, and he'll just have to pay the price to replace the entire sign. 

The kid that set us (me) in the police's lap....

He said that he'd pay the other guy's lawyer fees, but not mine.  What a mother fuck, eh?


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Chemy]
    #8545589 - 06/20/08 08:21 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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Anything over $100 is a felony here (grand theft).




You don't count.

You live in the land of insanity where you get 25 years minimum for having 30 pills of 5mg percocets (maybe 5 doses if you don't have a high tolerance).

The same sentence minimum, btw, you'd get for having well over 5,500 pills worth of percocet if you possessed the drug as a pure substance and removed all the tylenol and binder they use in the pills.

Any state that gives people 25 years for possessing 5 doses of percocet, with no evidence of drug trafficking required- simple possesion,  is officially insane.  That is fucking retarded and capricious and arbitrary when the person who posses 5500 times that amount is subjected to the same sentence.


           
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We need more tough on crime politicians for those young hooligans and their drug dealing.  I don't wanna hear the details, just tell me who's tough on crime.


Where's the ballot box?  How do i work this terribly complicated hole punch ballot? 



Did I just vote for Al Sharpton?






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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: johnm214]
    #8596761 - 07/05/08 08:42 AM (3 months, 1 day ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8595795

This is kind of like my case, except they didn't really search the house, just opened rooms' doors to wake people up...
Still, they didn't have consent to enter the house...


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Tri High]
    #8722550 - 08/04/08 02:01 AM (2 months, 3 days ago)

What's happening with your case, youngun?


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: johnm214]
    #8723032 - 08/04/08 07:21 AM (2 months, 2 days ago)

(1 month, 24 days ago) since the first post, should have heard something by now, right?


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Chemy]
    #8773840 - 08/14/08 04:11 PM (1 month, 23 days ago)

I haven't heard anything from anybody yet...I'll be sure to keep you updated if/when something happens...

Hopefully it doesn't!

And in similar instances, I've seen testing take up to 3 months, so it's just a waiting game right now.
It happened May 9...


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Tri High]
    #8774378 - 08/14/08 06:59 PM (1 month, 23 days ago)

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10:00 am - I am questioned about the sign, and about what I had going on in my room.  Admitted the mushrooms and everything, was given bad news.





HUGE mistake. Never, ever, EVER admit to ANYTHING, ever. Sorry dude you fucked yourself right there. Why don't people learn this simple fucking rule. Police lie, the are never going to help you no matter what they say. I have had buddies go to jail because somebody was scared and admitted everything to cops, practically invited them in and destroyed the case against a suspect warrant.

ALWAYS KEEP YOUR FUCKING MOUTH SHUT


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: antiPock]
    #8815031 - 08/23/08 10:16 AM (1 month, 14 days ago)

Any updates?


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Tri High]
    #8817546 - 08/23/08 07:39 PM (1 month, 14 days ago)

Wow. Uhm, yeah, definitely don't get cocky. Something will happen. It's the state. The state will fuck anyone they possibly can, that's their job. I got arested for 18 Flowering females and 20 clones with a 1500-2000 set up. See, the problem is, you had illegal stuff going on. Yeah I know you didn't give consent, but, a warrant was issued from my understanding, therefore making what they did, from my experience in this fucked judicial system, legit. As for ammendments, ha, wtf are those? I'm a felon for life, can't get a fucking job, or even get my own place. Most likely won't be able to leave the country either. Dude, for your sake, I hope it works out. Chances are you won't go to jail. An, if you do, it'll be county, and you'll be out in a flash. OR, you'll have the option of EHD. Which totally sucks and I reccomend against it. I know a guy that had a quarter ounce of psilos, he's a felon now, and I'm in Oregon. Oregon is relatively lax on drugs compared to many other states. I got busted September first, and didn't get sentenced until January 26th the following year. They take their sweet time. Hopefully you haven't done toomany mean/bad things bro, cuz this is where karma comes in. Luckily for me, I had tons of reserves. Anyway, I wish you the best of luck.


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: misos]
    #8821697 - 08/24/08 07:18 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

no updates yet.

Thanks misos.  I hope it works out.  I'm not cocky, I'm sure that some shit will happen and I'll end up fucked somehow.  I've got prety good karma I think. 

I might not get charged, though. 

I've read that the judge needs to write his name underneath his signature, but I don't know how credible that information is.  The warrant was signed but had no printed name.

Anyway, I think that the way they entered the house without express consent and behind a person in handcuffs is a mistake by them and may lead to the evidence being suppressed...

That's what I hope.  Also I met a guy that goes to the same church as the judge and knows the county prosecutor.  He said he'd try to put in a good word for me, so who really knows about that and how that will turn out...Hopefully for the best!

I'll keep you updated more.  It's been 3 months and 15 days.  I'm just waiting, knowing that it's coming.


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Tri High]
    #8822306 - 08/24/08 09:28 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Have you written to obtain your states or federal file through FOIA yet?

I mailed my request in 2 months ago for my FBI file and I'm still waiting:nonono:


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Chemy]
    #8822533 - 08/24/08 10:41 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

no, what is that and why do I need/want it?  I've never heard of it...

Where do I write to and what will the file contain?

Thanks,
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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Tri High]
    #8822556 - 08/24/08 10:48 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)



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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Tri High]
    #8822724 - 08/24/08 11:23 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Quote:

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no updates yet.

Thanks misos.  I hope it works out.  I'm not cocky, I'm sure that some shit will happen and I'll end up fucked somehow.  I've got prety good karma I think. 

I might not get charged, though. 

I've read that the judge needs to write his name underneath his signature, but I don't know how credible that information is.  The warrant was signed but had no printed name.

Anyway, I think that the way they entered the house without express consent and behind a person in handcuffs is a mistake by them and may lead to the evidence being suppressed...

That's what I hope.  Also I met a guy that goes to the same church as the judge and knows the county prosecutor.  He said he'd try to put in a good word for me, so who really knows about that and how that will turn out...Hopefully for the best!

I'll keep you updated more.  It's been 3 months and 15 days.  I'm just waiting, knowing that it's coming.




where did you here that the judge needs to print his name?


That's just lore, sounds like stuff druggie-'lawyers' would say...  And again, lets say he does have to print his name.  Oh well, he didn't.  What can you do about it? 


You can suppress constitutional violations, not law violations.  Even if some law exists that he had to print his name it is of no consequence as their is no requirement in the constitution that says he must print his name.


I would figure on being charged and arrested.  The only way you could stop that is by getting  an attorney to contact the prosecutor and this will totally depend on the prosecutor and the office.  Might not work.


Its stupid and insane, but this is the war on drugs and we've abandoned reason a long time ago, and someone growing shrooms for one trip's worth is treated the same way as someone synthesizing one-thousand trips worth of pure chemical.


Again, the war on drugs is insane.  I truly hope you do all right, keep us posted.  Hopefully they'll offer you some deal or you'll get some traction at a suppression hearing.


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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Tri High]
    #8822824 - 08/24/08 11:46 PM (1 month, 13 days ago)

Lawyer up ... Spend as much as it takes.  It is worth it. 

Keep your nose clean for now and never admit anything.  Just short answers, and be respectful, know it is tough but that is where it is at.

It is tough but you could ask to see what they are talking about.  Then put your hands through it getting it all contaminated and saying I don't know what this is?  Where did you find it again?  Oh, I think it is moldy dirt????

Act respectful.
Be as smart as you can.
Don't say anything incriminating.
And don't insult their intelligence.  They can't know everything.  Pertend to be helpful.
And in your case LAWYER UP!!!
If they do want to press charges 9 months from now.  Plead not guilty and get as many extensions as you can.... Eventually it will may offer a plea bargain.  Don't take it and get your lawyer to talk to them to dismiss the charges.

Anyway my 2 cents for the day,

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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: KarenTandy]
    #8823323 - 08/25/08 03:58 AM (1 month, 12 days ago)

> I mailed my request in 2 months ago for my FBI file and I'm still waiting:nonono:

The following used to be on the FOIA website, but I can no longer find it...

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Under the statute, all federal agencies are required to respond to a FOIA request within twenty business days, excluding Saturdays, Sundays, and legal holidays. This time period does not begin until the request is actually received by the FOIA office of the Department of Justice component that maintains the records sought. An agency is not required to send out the releasable documents by the last business day; it can send you a letter informing you of its decision and then send you the documents within a reasonable time afterward.

Some components of the Justice Department, such as the FBI and DEA, receive thousands of requests each year. Many of these requests require a line-by-line review of hundreds or even thousands of pages of documents. Although the Justice Department makes every effort to respond to FOIA requests as quickly as possible, in some cases it simply cannot do so within the specified time period. This may be due either to the size of the request or to the fact that the component has a backlog of previously received requests that are awaiting processing. Some components use "multi-track" processing queues to deal with their heavy FOIA workloads; components' descriptions of their multi-track processing systems are contained in Attachment C.

Under the FOIA, a component may extend the response time for an additional ten business days when: (1) the component needs to collect responsive records from field offices; (2) the request involves a "voluminous" amount of records that must be located, compiled, and reviewed; or (3) the component needs to consult with another agency or other components of the Justice Department that have a substantial interest in the responsive information. When such a time extension is needed, the component may notify you of this in writing and offer you the opportunity to modify or limit your request. Alternatively, you may agree to a different timetable for the processing of your request.

When a determination on your request is not made within the applicable time period and you have not agreed to a different response timetable, you may file suit in federal court to pursue a response. If, however, the court concludes that you have unreasonably refused to limit your request or to accept an alternate timetable for response, the court may find that the component's failure to comply within the statutory time period is justified. The court may excuse the lack of a timely response if the component demonstrates that it has a backlog of requests that were received before yours, that it processes its requests on a first-come/first-served basis, and that it is making reasonable progress in reducing its backlog of pending FOIA requests. In such cases, the court may postpone its consideration of your lawsuit until the agency reaches your request in its processing backlog.

Alternatively, under Executive Order 13,392 (Dec. 14, 2005), FOIA requesters also may contact an agency's FOIA Requester Service Center(s) to check on the status of their FOIA requests. As mentioned above, the Department of Justice has established such a center for each of its 40 components, with a FOIA Public Liaison named for each, whom FOIA requesters may contact by telephone if they are dissatisfied with the response of the component's FOIA Requester Service Center. (The individual names and telephone numbers are listed, on a component-by-component basis, in Attachment C.) FOIA requesters are strongly encouraged to make use of these new services that are now available to them."




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Re: Caught by the Police...What next?! [Re: Seuss]
    #8823824 - 08/25/08 09:19 AM (1 month, 12 days ago)

Thanks Suess, I haven't received a response or the articles requested, I'll pursue another option.

Could requesting any DOJ documents reignite an old investigation that stalled and perhaps forgotten about, could a FOIA request be a bad idea in certain circumstances?


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