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ID Request. Are these poisonous?
    #8596230 - 07/04/08 11:14 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

What type of mushrooms have I found? Are they poisonous?
the first picture, i found around a grass-type plant. In Auckland, New Zealand.


Second Pic found around long grass plants.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: aerosol]
    #8596244 - 07/04/08 11:18 PM (4 months, 29 days ago)

pic 1


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: aerosol]
    #8596349 - 07/05/08 12:19 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

is there any blue bruising its hard too tell from the pics


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8596472 - 07/05/08 01:37 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

The first pic looks very interesting, like the unnamed Psilocybe in section Stuntzii that Inski finds. 

If it is that, you would be the second person in the world to collect it.

Some better pics are needed to be sure they are not toxic. 

What is the spore print color?  Any blue staining where the stems are broken?

The second pic are mycena and conocybe, nothing worth eating.

I think you got really really lucky with that first one.  But the pic is blurry, could be deadly, more are needed!


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8596476 - 07/05/08 01:40 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Yes, the top ones look very much like this:

http://www.sporeworksgallery.com/Stuntzae/NZ_unknown


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: tripsis]
    #8596538 - 07/05/08 02:46 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

If it's the same kind as cleen's, they must be spreading out...

Hey if they are, it looks like yours are sporulating nicely (going by the colour of the ring), whereas his were hard to get spores from. Might want to clone them or take a few spore prints while you can.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: undergrounder]
    #8596576 - 07/05/08 03:37 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

I looked at the photos of cleen's. They definately look the same. I will post up some more pics.

they are loosing and changing colour. I have them in a sealed bag.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8596577 - 07/05/08 03:39 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Quote:

weiliiiiiii said:
is there any blue bruising its hard too tell from the pics



It looks like there is a bit of blue on the stalks.
Will post more pics.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: aerosol]
    #8596598 - 07/05/08 04:18 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Take them out of the sealed bag, fresh mushrooms don't like that.

It would be great to see some photos of them in their habitat!  Use a digital camera and turn on the macro mode (little flower icon).


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8596599 - 07/05/08 04:19 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Try to get some spore prints too.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: tripsis]
    #8596672 - 07/05/08 07:04 AM (4 months, 29 days ago)

Put them in a paper bag and place them in the fridge until you can get descent pics and print them right away.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: lqdtrance]
    #8597824 - 07/05/08 03:46 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

these photos might help,



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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: aerosol]
    #8597845 - 07/05/08 03:52 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Most of those look good but the one on the lower left is a deadly Galerina.  The four on the lower right are also highly suspect.

Don't eat any that have rusty orange gills!

And be careful not to get a stem from the deadly ones in with the good ones.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: aerosol]
    #8597863 - 07/05/08 03:58 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Do you mean I shouldn't have the stem of the deadly ones in the same bag as the other ones?


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: aerosol]
    #8597900 - 07/05/08 04:13 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Yea its best to keep them separate in case they break apart and then you have to decide which stem goes with which cap and you can't afford to make a single mistake.

You should be able to tell by the blue bruising, but sometimes the blue from a good one will rub off on the stem of the deadly one, that would be a bummer.  Or sometimes the deadly ones turn kind of black as they rot and it looks like blue if you want it to be blue badly enough.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #8598278 - 07/05/08 06:54 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Yeah be careful with which mushrooms you keep. Make sure they all have the same spore print colour and all bruise blue.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: aerosol]
    #8598863 - 07/05/08 09:51 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Ok,

I have tried doing spore prints of the mushrooms I have found but have been unsuccessful.

I have kept them in plastic zip-lock bags for about 2days tho.

What is best to keep them in when you find them?


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: aerosol]
    #8599187 - 07/05/08 11:34 PM (4 months, 28 days ago)

A paper bag would be prferable. If you find more, spore print them immediately. Try to get some habitat shot too and make sure that they are all the same mushroom. Spore printing is a key way of IDing mushrooms and ensuring that you have the same kind.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: tripsis]
    #8599376 - 07/06/08 12:52 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Be careful aerosol, before your dry them all until they're unrecognisable, chuck out the deadly and suspect ones. If you haven't already


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: undergrounder]
    #8599869 - 07/06/08 05:14 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

Always sort through them and print them as soon as you get them home. It can be time consuming but it will save you from having to toss them all or getting sick.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: lqdtrance]
    #8600023 - 07/06/08 07:46 AM (4 months, 28 days ago)

I found some more. The spore print came out black, purpley blue.



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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: aerosol]
    #8600046 - 07/06/08 08:07 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

Could these be Psilocybe aucklandii?


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    #8600282 - 07/06/08 10:19 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

Cant give you a for sure answer. Print must be Jet black. Look at it under sun light. Let it print for 24 hrs so it dumps a ton of spores on there first. 24 hrs isnt really neccessary but it will help you since you are new. Get a better camera or try to stabilize your camera more (set it on a hackey sac) and take a Clearer picture. They look like they could be but we need more info. Where did these ones come from? (habitat), any bruising? any lines in the stem? read the rules and learn how to post a proper ID. You need to do this with each one.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: aerosol]
    #8600301 - 07/06/08 10:27 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

If it were Psilocybe aucklandii the spore print should be dark purple brown and the mushrooms will bruise blue.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: DannyGlick]
    #8600337 - 07/06/08 10:44 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

For some stupid reason I was thinking of subbs. I just have subbs on the mind today :shrug:


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: lqdtrance]
    #8600399 - 07/06/08 11:04 AM (4 months, 27 days ago)

im not familiar with psilocybe aucklandii but they don't look very Psilocybey to me, they look to me like Stropharias. Check for blueing, i can't see any.


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Re: ID Request. Are these poisonous? [Re: undergrounder]
    #8600618 - 07/06/08 12:30 PM (4 months, 27 days ago)

these dont look the same as the first ones you posted


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