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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: buckwheat]
    #8594980 - 07/04/08 01:40 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

hypocrites, they could have freed their slaves and given them the
option to stay on as hired hands, then they earn a buck, have a
place to live and the founders have cheap labor... hypocrisies and
greed carry more weight in a fledgling nation than honor and truth


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: buckwheat]
    #8594985 - 07/04/08 01:42 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

Sounds like some good ol' fashioned spin to me  :laugh:  lol it almost sounds like rationalizing slavery.

It reminds me of musicians and celebrity in general *cough Bono cough* who go around telling people to save the planet and the world. Yet through there presence consume more and contribute more to indirect suffering than most normal people could ever.


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: DieCommie]
    #8594991 - 07/04/08 01:43 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

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DieCommie said:
You making wide sweeping generalizations that are not true.  The original inhabitants were diverse and disparate.  To pre judge all of them as wanting to live in peace is the same fallacy that led others to pre judge them as barbaric.





the indians tried to honor the treaties, sure there were a few
renegades but the chiefs and most of the people of those nations
did try, in almost all cases it was government that broke the
treaties


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: DieCommie]
    #8594995 - 07/04/08 01:45 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

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You making wide sweeping generalizations that are not true.  The original inhabitants were diverse and disparate.  To pre judge all of them as wanting to live in peace is the same fallacy that led others to pre judge them as barbaric.




You could always read the statement more noarrowly as "living in peace" as opposed to being marginalized, conquered, and exterminated.  You don't have to assume that living in peace implies that they had acheived some sort of Utopian society.


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: nalyudi]
    #8595009 - 07/04/08 01:49 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

fuck it


Edited by blkjkrabbit (07/04/08 01:56 PM)


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: DieCommie]
    #8595021 - 07/04/08 01:51 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

Happy Independence Day! Also, who's that country chick that has a song about Independence Day?


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: Irdamage]
    #8595035 - 07/04/08 01:56 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

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Irdamage said:
Sounds like some good ol' fashioned spin to me  :laugh:  lol it almost sounds like rationalizing slavery.

It reminds me of musicians and celebrity in general *cough Bono cough* who go around telling people to save the planet and the world. Yet through there presence consume more and contribute more to indirect suffering than most normal people could ever.




:rolleyes:

More of a attempt to defend the founding fathers because i really love their ideas but it truly is hypocritical to have slaves.their views where even progressive for their time atleast with Thomas Jefferson. Everyone is a product of their time . Even the almighty Ghandi was a racist.


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: Boots]
    #8595062 - 07/04/08 02:08 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

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Boots said:
Happy Independence Day! Also, who's that country chick that has a song about Independence Day?





google says Martina McBride


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8595131 - 07/04/08 02:33 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

Name 2 traditions for "Independence day":

Eat massive amounts of junk food.

Detonate class C explosive devices.

:shrug:

Way to celebrate seperation of the New World from the British that wanted to be all in our nooks and crannies:mad:


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: Chemy]
    #8595146 - 07/04/08 02:38 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

#3. get drunk, kill innocent pedestrians


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8595151 - 07/04/08 02:41 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

#4 shoot guns into air

#5 shoot guns into the air while drunk completly forgetting you are suppose to do it perfectly verticical and kill the old lady 5 blocks away.


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: buckwheat]
    #8595154 - 07/04/08 02:42 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

#6 get drunk, drown your kids at the lake


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Re: Independence Day!!!! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8595161 - 07/04/08 02:44 PM (3 months, 1 day ago)

hanging out with family and friends and eating BBQ is the tradition here. yes, it might involve explosives and beer, but this year will have pot, too! :stoned:


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