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Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom
    #8594953 - 07/04/08 01:33 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hty1hXgakr7zoviTVNKalsStgSOw
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SAN FRANCISCO (AFP) — A US judge has ordered Google to expose to Viacom the video-viewing habits of everyone who has ever used YouTube in a decision condemned by the Internet giant and privacy advocates.

US District Court Judge Louis Stanton backed Viacom's request for data on which YouTube users watch which videos on the website in order to support its case in a billion-dollar copyright lawsuit against Google.

Viacom charges Google, which bought YouTube in 2006, acts as a willing accomplice to Internet users who put clips of Viacom's copyrighted television programs on the popular video-sharing website.

"We are disappointed the court granted Viacom's overreaching demand for viewing history," Google senior litigation counsel Catherine Lacavera told AFP in an email Thursday.

Stanton brushed aside privacy concerns on Tuesday while ordering Google to give Viacom log-in names of YouTube users and Internet protocol (IP) addresses identifying which computers they used for viewing videos.

Stanton contends that Viacom needs more than pseudonyms and IP numbers that are tantamount to addresses on the Internet to identify individual YouTube users.

Electronic Frontier Foundation attorney Kurt Opsahl called the court's ruling a significant reversal to privacy rights.

The judge's ruling ignores US federal law as well as a "fiasco" that resulted after America Online gave researchers what it thought was anonymous search data, Opsahl said.

People's online searches can unintentionally divulge identities even without accompanying onscreen nicknames or IP addresses, according to Opsahl.

"The court's erroneous ruling is a set-back to privacy rights and will allow Viacom to see what you are watching on YouTube," he said.

"We urge Viacom to back off this overbroad request and Google to take all steps necessary to challenge this order and protect the rights of its users."

Viacom issued a statement Thursday saying it is only out to bolster its case against Google and not to expose or pursue viewers of copyrighted videos.

"Any information that we or our outside advisors obtain will be used exclusively for the purpose of proving our case against YouTube and Google," Viacom said.

"It will be handled subject to a court protective order and in a highly confidential manner."

In what Google claims as a partial victory, Stanton denied Viacom's request to get its hands on secret source code used in YouTube video searches as well as for Internet searches.

Stanton also refused a Viacom request to order Google to provide access to the videos YouTube users store in private YouTube files.

Google lawyers opposed each of the Viacom requests, which were made in a "discovery" evidence-gathering phase of a lawsuit filed in March of last year in US District Court in New York state.

"We are pleased the court put some limits on discovery, including refusing to allow Viacom to access users' private videos and our search technology," Lacavera said.

"We will ask Viacom to respect users' privacy and allow us to anonymize the logs before producing them under the court's order."

Google decries the lawsuit as an attack on the underpinnings of the Internet, while Viacom argues that the California-based Internet search colossus and especially its subsidiary YouTube are involved in "massive" copyright infringement.

The Viacom lawsuit has been merged with similar civil litigation being pursued by the Premier League of England's Football Association, which says soccer game clips are routinely posted on YouTube without authorization.

Google shields itself with 1998's Digital Millennium Copyright Act, US legislation that says Internet firms are not responsible for what Internet users put on websites.

Industry insiders suspect Viacom is using the lawsuit as a negotiating tactic and has no intention of taking the matter to trial.

Viacom's goal could be to reach into Google's deep pockets for royalties for videos played on YouTube.

Viacom, however, said it had no choice but to sue after "a great deal of unproductive negotiation" failed to curtail YouTube's "unlawful business model."

The Viacom stable includes Nickelodeon, Comedy Central and more than 130 other television networks around the world, plus an array of websites.





This is a bit scary but expected. Short version for those who don't want to read, Viacom (the parent corporation which owns Comedy Central, MTV, CBS, Nickolodean etc) has sued Google (owner of youtube) for users uploading copyrighted videos. The judge has ordered youtube to handover over 12 terabytes of user information to Viacom.* Wikipedia.


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Re: Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom [Re: Irdamage]
    #8594996 - 07/04/08 01:46 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

I'm wondering if they're ever going to have the time to go through all that and what is created on a daily basis?


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Re: Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom [Re: blackegg]
    #8595027 - 07/04/08 01:54 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

So youporn's userdata is still safe? :ashamed:


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Re: Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom [Re: blackegg]
    #8595028 - 07/04/08 01:55 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

How is Google responsible for users uploading copyrighted videos? I guess if Viacom can't sue the users directly, they go for one better.


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Re: Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom [Re: Boots]
    #8595039 - 07/04/08 01:58 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

Isn't Google still not large enough to simply buy Viacom in a hostile takeover?


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Re: Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom [Re: koppie]
    #8595064 - 07/04/08 02:08 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

Google actually has more revenue, but Viacom is a relative media giant. Regardless of how much they make they still own all the rights to the videos being put up.

The controversy is the complete access to every users viewing lists and private video files etc.


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Re: Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom [Re: Irdamage]
    #8595087 - 07/04/08 02:17 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

Its like how the music industry is all pissy about people downloading their music without buying it. Now the media seems to be acting the same way in regards to their video content


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Re: Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom [Re: KillerPicklez]
    #8595188 - 07/04/08 02:53 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

I always asked the question, how is it illegal to download copyrighted songs, but its legal to watch videos of the same songs online, even without giving credit to the original purchasers of the content?

It just...doesn't...make...sense...


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Re: Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom [Re: Irdamage]
    #8595271 - 07/04/08 03:18 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

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How is Google responsible for users uploading copyrighted videos?




pirating is pirating.  Since illegal files are being stored on their servers, they're responsible for them.


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Re: Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom [Re: Irdamage]
    #8595437 - 07/04/08 04:11 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

stupid fucking judge.  I'm glad Google fights things like this out to the bitter end...


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Re: Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom [Re: circularvortex]
    #8595815 - 07/04/08 07:26 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

Fuck Viacom and that cuntbag judge


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Re: Google gives Youtube user data to Viacom [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
    #8595834 - 07/04/08 07:32 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

always gotta go to the thugs with guns

hello fascism

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