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 PIrg
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 Cake saving experiment begins
#8594159 - 07/04/08 06:35 AM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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So I took the cakes that fruited very little and were in bad bad shape, dunked them for 22hrs and this morning did some surgery. I had 5 one of which half disintigrated under the water. That one is rolled and laying rough side down. The other 4 I scraped clean and cut 2 of them down to 1/2 pt cakes the other 2 left whole. I then rolled half and left the other half as is.
So in short I have 2- 1/2pt and 1- 1pt cake dunked, scraped and rolled. I have the same dunked and scraped but not rolled. On the un-rolled cakes, only the bottoms are covered with verm where the cut was.
It will be neat to see what happens (if anything) on these cakes. They were in really bad shape due to my being a newb and really fucking them up. But hey, Im learnin!
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Re: Cake saving experiment begins [Re: PIrg]
#8604355 - 07/07/08 02:24 PM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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Well, one cake turned green the other an ugly brown, so two of them ended up compost heap material. The others are showing goods signs and fuzzing up nice and white. I may save one or two yet. Oddly enough one cake (green) was rolled the other (brown) was not. So at this point im still on the fence wether or not rolling was better after scraping or not.
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Re: Cake saving experiment begins [Re: PIrg]
#8604392 - 07/07/08 02:35 PM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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I hope you sterilized that verm you used to cover the cut side.
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Re: Cake saving experiment begins [Re: Ledbonzo86]
#8604409 - 07/07/08 02:42 PM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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Ahh that would be the reason for the contam. I just patted the cut side with verm right out of the bag. What can I say? Im still learnin. The stupid thing is I have another bag of verm that IS sterilized in a zip lock and didnt even think to use it. Well, seems like i got lucky with a couple of them anyway.
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Re: Cake saving experiment begins [Re: PIrg]
#8604436 - 07/07/08 02:50 PM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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MMmm. It only needs baking to be used on a fully colonized cake as RR points out in his PF teks at www.mushroomvideos.com. Be cautious about sterilized items in a ziplock bag as those bags tend to absorb moisture from outside the bag which will no doubt compromise the sterility of your verm or whatever you store.
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Re: Cake saving experiment begins [Re: PIrg]
#8604447 - 07/07/08 02:52 PM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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Be cautious. Once a fruiting chamber, or any surface for that matter, shows signs of contam, either throw it out immediately without opening it or Pressure cook it with out opening it to kill all the contam. Opening up a chamber or jar that is contam'd spreads bad spores all around your area which will be very damaging in future mycology.
Dont want to see the wrong spore under the microscope.
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Re: Cake saving experiment begins [Re: Ledbonzo86]
#8604484 - 07/07/08 03:06 PM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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You don't strictly need to sterilize verm since cakes are contaminant resistant, but it doesn't hurt either. I always do just because its so easy. I like to just load up a baking tin with verm, cover it with aluminum foil, tightly seal the edges, and then bake like that. It comes out in it's own container for later use.
I don't know exactly how you dunked the cakes, but if they were all in the same container, that could be the source of your problem. The one that disintegrated could have been contaminated (that can cause a soft, dead spot) and then the soak exposed the rest to it. Some were strong enough to resist, others weren't.
A few ways to avoid cross-contamination when you are dunking suspicious cakes:
1) Separate containers (duh). I'll use plastic gladware and that sort of thing
2) Individual bags (get good ones, not ones that leak) in the same container.
3) Moving water. This is a technique often used with dunking bulk subs. Put cakes at the bottom of a container that has a slow flow of water constantly going into it and overflowing out. A pot inside a sink can work. Contaminants won't settle on cakes and will eventually be washed away with the overflow.
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Quote:
PowerOfTheCoir said:
You don't strictly need to sterilize verm since cakes are contaminant resistant
I believe he was referring to a cut cake. One cut in half and applying "out-of-the-bag" verm to the un-colonized side of the cake.
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Re: Cake saving experiment begins [Re: Ledbonzo86]
#8604688 - 07/07/08 04:04 PM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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Quote:
Ledbonzo86 said:
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PowerOfTheCoir said:
You don't strictly need to sterilize verm since cakes are contaminant resistant
I believe he was referring to a cut cake. One cut in half and applying "out-of-the-bag" verm to the un-colonized side of the cake.
Oooh yeah, you're right. A fresh cut it extra vulnerable. I read that way too quickly.
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Once again this site proves invaluable. Ive learned another good lesson, saved a bit of my first grow and by the time my second grow is ready ill have this shit down pat!
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Re: Cake saving experiment begins [Re: PIrg]
#8638637 - 07/15/08 04:10 PM (2 months, 22 days ago) |
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Although it took longer than I thought (I was ready to throw the cakes out), pinning has started. All the cakes were scraped but only half were rolled. The rolled cakes are pinning finally while the un-rolled cakes are very fuzzy and getting nods but no pins yet. The jury isnt in yet but so far the rolled ones are doing better than the unrolled and it seems i have saved what started out as some really sorry ass cakes. Now cross your fingers and hope the whole mess doesnt abort on me or some stupid shit like that!
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