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 Shroomsbrrr
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 Any suggestions for better casing 2nd flush pinset?
#8593572 - 07/04/08 12:01 AM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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So my FOAF just had a casing that produced poorly. My opinion for this is because he had it wrapped in aluminum foil (clear container) and that reflected the light which made pins show up mostly on the sides rather then up top since the casing pulled away from the sides about a 1/4 in. on each side. For flush #2 he wrapped this container in duct tape and filled in the sides with casing mix. Is there anything they can do in addition to this or has anything that could help been done already? Thanks in advance to all who chime in
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Re: Any suggestions for better casing 2nd flush pinset? [Re: Shroomsbrrr]
#8593612 - 07/04/08 12:11 AM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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your successive flushes pinsets are determined by the first pinset. He would have been much better off leaving the casing alone and fruiting it again. I'd bet a few dollars he's still going to get a lot of pins from the sides.
Side pinning is usually a result of the substrate pulling away from the container and creating a great microclimate for pins. If your substrate has pulled away from the sides before you cased it, it's best to shove some casing material in the cracks to eliminate the gap and promote pinning on the top. Crumpling a piece of wax paper and placing it on top of the substrate is a great way to reproduce the microclimate found in the gaps. You just need to make sure to replace the wax paper every few days, remove it once you see pins starting to pop up.
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Re: Any suggestions for better casing 2nd flush pinset? [Re: coda]
#8593634 - 07/04/08 12:20 AM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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My friend had 2 casings. The one in question was 50/50 verm/sphagum moss that he cased, put in the FC covered for a good 3-5 days then uncovered and patched. I guess humidity wasnt high enough after that since it pulled away that much. So you think those nasty sidepinners are gonna return? Sure hope not since that would be a nasty rotten mess if they come back that way and probably wont make it more then one more flush. The other one did great minus the fact they were pretty small fruits (2 in. max size). Either way hes got all he needs for a trip for him an I, but mores always welcome  . Spawn was WBS in case anyone was wonderin
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Re: Any suggestions for better casing 2nd flush pinset? [Re: Shroomsbrrr]
#8593647 - 07/04/08 12:24 AM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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ugh, i've had the tiny mushroom problem before. It's a bitch let me tell you, all of the mushrooms from that casing will be hella small. If it's not substrate related it's a genetic defect.
The reason substrate pulls from the side is not lack of RH, it's the myc eating the substrate! Personally, if you get a good flush, side pinning isn't all that bad! I've had a few grows where my pinset formed on the sides and i pulled a qp dry from them. The mushrooms will push their way back up through the casing layer most likely. If not you can always pull the side of the tub away from the substrate and take a peek at what's going on.
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Re: Any suggestions for better casing 2nd flush pinset? [Re: coda]
#8593681 - 07/04/08 12:43 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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Haha your sidepinning luck isnt anything like my boy's. they were all extremely small 1/4 in. pins with 1 or 2 big boys (relative to the size of the others). overall first flush from that is probably like a half eight. oh well itll add up to about a half o between the two for the first flush so its not too big of a lose. not sure which he used but im pretty sure they were F+. either way im pumped ive needed to trip since december. now ive just gotta wait for the cosmos to grant me with a full moon and im GTG! shrooms to you for the good insight!
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Re: Any suggestions for better casing 2nd flush pinset? [Re: Shroomsbrrr]
#8593686 - 07/04/08 12:46 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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how deep was the substrate layer? How much substrate did you use? I'm assuming this is a bulk grow?
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Re: Any suggestions for better casing 2nd flush pinset? [Re: coda]
#8593713 - 07/04/08 12:56 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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nahh no bulk. each casing was a qt i think. maybe 2 in the better casing but im not sure. im thinking maybe trying to scratch the top of the small one to try and induce some better colonization then hopefully some pinning. its not really overlayed but maybe it was a little bit before it was patched which equalled shittiness on top and pins from the sides where it was still gettin light. what do you think? measurement wise i'd say the substrates about an in. and a half. with a verm layer on the bot.
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Re: Any suggestions for better casing 2nd flush pinset? [Re: Shroomsbrrr]
#8593824 - 07/04/08 02:13 AM (2 months, 1 day ago) |
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inch and a 1/2 is way too thin for cubies to grow large my friend. You want a 3-4 inch substrate layer.
Eh, i wouldn't bother too much with the scraping. Overlay is rarely a problem.
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