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Mccain admits he cant use a computer
    #8593741 - 07/04/08 01:10 AM (6 months, 3 days ago)

how can we elect someone who doesnt understand what millions of americas rely on everyday

he also cant drive a car
his wife said that at some talk show i 4get which 1


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: Coaster]
    #8593758 - 07/04/08 01:21 AM (6 months, 3 days ago)

This shows how elitist and seperate some of these folks are from the daily life of their constituents.

The car thing is probably justified though from his injury, I'd guess.


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: Coaster]
    #8594207 - 07/04/08 07:38 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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Coaster said:
how can we elect someone who doesnt understand what millions of americas rely on everyday




I remember when I chouldnt use one, in fact the people I work
for cant use a computer, a guy my mom worked for ran a multi
million dollar company and there wasnt a single computer in his
building, it was all paper. I wonder how proficient JFK and Abe
Lincoln were, do you think they used Macs or IBMs

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he also cant drive a car




it's probably better that way since old people are such shitty drivers


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8594212 - 07/04/08 07:41 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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I wonder how proficient JFK and Abe
Lincoln were, do you think they used Macs or IBMs




You can't possibly be serious with this question.


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: Redstorm]
    #8594248 - 07/04/08 08:06 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Fine, lets move into modern times.  How many emails did Bill Clinton send while he was in office as President?  The correct answer is... two.


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: Seuss]
    #8594252 - 07/04/08 08:10 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

I wasn't making a value judgment about McCain or anything. I was just saying how absurd the text I quoted was. The president doesn't have to know how to use a computer. That's what staffers are for.


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: Redstorm]
    #8594259 - 07/04/08 08:13 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

So he's admitted he can't use a computer and knows nothing about the economy.  He's taken money from a terrorist funder and a host of other unacceptable fund raising practices.

He said he wants the Iraq war to last another 100 years or more and that he would vote for the Iraq war again.

I bet he is still going to win though.  He is Diebold's candidate.


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: HippyInASuit]
    #8594269 - 07/04/08 08:19 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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He is Diebold's candidate.




/Yawn

You have any proof for this?


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: Redstorm]
    #8594435 - 07/04/08 10:17 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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Redstorm said:
Quote:

I wonder how proficient JFK and Abe
Lincoln were, do you think they used Macs or IBMs




You can't possibly be serious with this question.




could abe at least count without using his fingers and toes

I cant believe you seriously though I might be serious


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8594467 - 07/04/08 10:40 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

So the guy can't be trusted to drive a car
because he may stroke out at any moment but
we're electing him to steer the country?
(you like that?)


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: johnm214]
    #8594472 - 07/04/08 10:43 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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johnm214 said:
This shows how elitist and seperate some of these folks are from the daily life of their constituents.





This shows how self-absorbed and separate so many young people are from the daily life of most of their fellow citizens.


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: Redstorm]
    #8594491 - 07/04/08 10:51 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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/Yawn

You have any proof for this?




No, its just a hunch.  There is proof of other elections having been rigged though.


Edited by HippyInASuit (07/04/08 10:53 AM)


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: HippyInASuit]
    #8594534 - 07/04/08 11:12 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

I knew you would...
:yesnod:


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: blackegg]
    #8594555 - 07/04/08 11:18 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

The HBO Special Hacking Democracy proves that Diebold machines can be hacked.


Do you want a company that leaves their source code unsecured on an Internet FTP server with no password, where a computer illiterate middle aged mother can stumble across and download it counting your votes in secret?  We need an open source voting solution that can be proven to be secure.


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: HippyInASuit]
    #8594588 - 07/04/08 11:34 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Here is testimony from a computer programmer explaining how he was solicited to commit voter fraud.


Here is evidence that people employed to program Diebold machines in New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Connecticut and Vermont have criminal backgrounds and defend the practice of swapping out memory cards during elections!
http://www.infowars.net/articles/january2008/100108LHS.htm


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: HippyInASuit]
    #8594613 - 07/04/08 11:43 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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have criminal backgrounds




How does a charge of selling narcotics have anything to do with one's behavior on the workplace?

It's funny how (I would assume) believe drug use should not be a crime, yet at the same time, blast an employee of this company for being arrested for drugs.

Where is the die between arrest for distribution and the assumed voter fraud?

Also, there is nothing in that link that states that switching memory cards implies voter fraud or that it is not necessary to do during the course of an election.


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: Redstorm]
    #8594646 - 07/04/08 11:58 AM (6 months, 2 days ago)

Watch Hacking Democracy and you'll understand why switching memory cards is a problem.  The problems seen in the NH primaries is what makes this relevant.  Look into it.

These are just a few examples.  Do some research yourself.  People have been convicted of voter fraud in the past few years and there will be a problem as long as we are using proprietary systems.  We need an open source solution.

http://www.roanoke.com/politics/fraud/wb/102600

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2007/11/06/2-convicted-vote-fraud-ohio-no-mention-theyre-democrats


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: HippyInASuit]
    #8594655 - 07/04/08 12:02 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

You made no mention of your prior claim of the employee being a convicted criminal. why is that relevant if the charge that was brought against him had nothing to do with voter fraud?

Also, neither of those links have anything to do with voting machines. They are instances of good 'ol fashion bribery and hand counting. No type of voting system will ever eliminate that.


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: Redstorm]
    #8594660 - 07/04/08 12:05 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

YES, AN OPEN SOURCE VOTING SYSTEM WILL PREVENT VOTE FRAUD.  You can have mathematical check-sums and open procedures that can be verified to ensure vote integrity.  Plus hand ballots can be randomly sampled to accurately determine vote fraud!


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Re: Mccain admits he cant use a computer [Re: HippyInASuit]
    #8594666 - 07/04/08 12:07 PM (6 months, 2 days ago)

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HippyInASuit said:
YES, AN OPEN SOURCE VOTING SYSTEM WILL PREVENT VOTE FRAUD.  You can have mathematical check-sums and open procedures that can be verified to ensure vote integrity.  Plus hand ballots can be randomly sampled to accurately determine vote fraud!




That would be an amazing system to eliminate bribery. Hot happening.

Again, you ignore the rebuttal to you claim about the irrelevance of a criminal record while being an employee of a voting records company.


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