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 Ungawdly
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 Hardcore drug test, help =/
#8572101 - 06/27/08 06:48 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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So I found out today my job is going to hire me on full time, better position, like 3 bucks more an hour. score... Problem is, they want me to take a full physical as well as a very comprehensive urine analysis. I figured I could just use fake urine like I have for the last 4 jobs I've had, but a co-worker told me that they check for things like white blood cell count and sugar content. One co-worker was informed he had probably had diabetes judging by his urine test results. Fuck.
So I've smoked heavily for the past year and a half or so. At least daily for the last year. My fat content isn't super high, and I have about 1 week till the testing/physical. Anyone have any suggestions? My only thought was stopping for a week, drinking massive amounts of water, exercising, then using 80% synthetic urine and top it off w/ my own piss just to give it a slight white blood cell count. Id rather they think I'm sick and call me back in for a blood sample than finding THC in my piss and losing my job/raise.
Anyone think this will work? I guess I could drink one of those detox drinks before the test as well to be double sure... Anyone's input would be great, as losing this job isn't an option. Thanks in advance, the shroomery has helped me so much in the past =)
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Re: Hardcore drug test, help =/ [Re: Ungawdly]
#8572105 - 06/27/08 06:49 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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wow be watching to see if ya make it GOOD LUCK and keep us updated.
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Ungawdly
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Re: Hardcore drug test, help =/ [Re: Ungawdly]
#8572735 - 06/27/08 10:21 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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So after reading up on Urinalysis, it seems to be saying that finding white/red blood cells in the urine is abnormal. And the synthetic urine says its balanced for PH, specific gravity and creatinine for those "who wish to keep their medical history private." Anyone else thinking I should just use synthetic and not worry about it?
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Re: Hardcore drug test, help =/ [Re: Ungawdly]
#8572763 - 06/27/08 10:29 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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man thats a hard call id go for it.
i remember passing the drug pee test at 3 mile island nuke with salt packed under a longish finger nail glued inplace with eggwhites then pee'd it off my finger passed 4 testes at 2 nukes and 1 hydro-dam but that was the 80's
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Ungawdly
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Re: Hardcore drug test, help =/ [Re: Ungawdly]
#8572794 - 06/27/08 10:39 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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And now I read a synthetic urine site that said "Labs know what the temperature of a fresh urine sample should be and they also know that a sample should have blood particles in it of the blood type of the person being tested; so it is riskier to try and evade the urinalysis test by using a urine substitution."
Hrmmm... still thinking just quit for a week or two, drink a detox thing, use synthetic and top it off w/ some of my own sounds like a good idea. Gonna cost me out the ass but my raise will more than cover if =)
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Re: Hardcore drug test, help =/ [Re: Ungawdly]
#8572816 - 06/27/08 10:47 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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Niacin, Green Tea extract, and Fiber always works for my friends, Soy lecithin and other B vitamins are also good.
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Re: Hardcore drug test, help =/ [Re: Ungawdly]
#8576887 - 06/29/08 10:22 AM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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A week might be too short, especially if you've been smoking pretty heavily for a year.
If you're going the fake route, would a (good) friends urine be a possibility? I mean if you're already cheating it, why not give them actual urine?
Or you could down every 'sober-up' product out there and workout/drink like a madman for a week too I suppose. Good luck either way!
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Re: Hardcore drug test, help =/ [Re: Allak]
#8579381 - 06/30/08 12:43 AM (2 months, 6 days ago) |
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don't worry about all that shit. Having suger in your piss et cet.
You shouldn't have wbc or whatever in your urine.
Get real urine and substitute.
You think it will be worse if they suspect diabetes or if they know you use illegal drugs?
Glucose in urine isn't dispositive of having diabetes anyways- at high levels it suggest diabetes or kidney problems, but who cares. I don't see why you'd presume the glucose would be abnormal in freeze dried urine anyways.
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Re: Hardcore drug test, help =/ [Re: johnm214]
#8590980 - 07/03/08 09:40 AM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Synthetic/substitute pee is a good idea, but you may be safer than you think. A physical isn't used for drug testing, but urine testing is often used during a comprehensive physical to test for medical problems. If you're being hired full time, you're probably also about to get better health care. The super-comprehensive part could just be about genuine health factors.
There's still definitely a chance that they'll use some of the urine for a drug test too, but it probably won't be much more advanced than simply having extra drug categories than the standard 5.
If you don't use synthetic urine and want to try to clean out, there are a few tricks you can use.
Drink plenty of water this week, but the most important time for drinking are the day before the test and the day of the test. Wake up early so you can start drinking and peeing. Usually when someone wakes up and starts hydrating, their body will retain water for a while before it finally realizes that the flow won't stop and then dumps en-masse. Be peeing freely before leaving the house. Drink plenty all day. A water jug may look suspicious, but sodas, coffees, and energy drinks are usually overlooked. People don't know that the can you have now isn't the one from 20 minutes ago. Or that you had 2 others in between those as well. Caffeine is also a diuretic, so it will help you pee even more.
Eat lots of food, preferably with fiber. More THC metabolites are excreted in feces than urine - no one wants a sample of that though. This may be less useful than eating fiber while smoking as a preventative measure, but it's still worth a shot.
Diluted urine is detected by color, specific gravity, and creatinine levels.
You can color your urine yellow by taking plenty of B vitamins. Many energy drinks will also color urine yellow - I've noticed this to be very pronounced with Rockstar. Energy drinks are also common these days, so you can walk in with one. If you over do it and the urine is freakishly yellow, the half empty can gives a ready explanation.
Specific gravity is just the amount of dissolved stuff in your urine. It's also less often tested for, since it takes instrumentation to measure. The chemical paper that many tests use cant test for this. To help keep the specific gravity up though, eat foods with plenty of salt and keep taking those multi-vitamins. Most of them end up in your urine anyway.
Creatinine is easy. It's the metabolite of creatine, which is found in muscle tissue. Usually it's pretty stable and predictable in people, but if you supplement with it, your creatinine levels will go way up. Most drug stores, Wal-mart, and health food stores carry creatine since it's one of the few sports supplements that actually works. Get a bunch and take 5g 5 times a day. This is a common loading protocol for atheletes, so the high dose won't hurt you for a week. Your body is also incapable of absorbing that much creatine, so most of it will end up in the toilet and bring your creatinine levels back up. It might make the docs concerned about your kidneys if it gets too high though. Just tell them you've been supplementing because your trying to get back into shape.
DON'T EXERCISE! Yes, THC metabolites are stored in fat cells and having more body fat makes passing a test tougher. However, losing body fat is a preventative measure only. When you burn off body fat, you liberate all of the toxins that can be stored for years. These are then eliminated in your urine. That's great if you have a month or two before the test, but in the week leading up to the test, you'll just be increasing the levels of THC in your blood. Exercising also raises your metabolism and increases fat-burning for days after the actual exercise, so if you stop a few days before the test, you may still elevate your THC levels. On the contrary, you should make sure you put on a little fat during the day or two leading up to the test. Have some ice cream before you sleep.
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The part about not exercising totally contradicts everything I have ever heard on how to beat a drug test...
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Re: Hardcore drug test, help =/ [Re: Gobblin]
#8592823 - 07/03/08 07:31 PM (2 months, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
Gobblin said:
The part about not exercising totally contradicts everything I have ever heard on how to beat a drug test...
Exercising as a preventative measure to keep a low body fat % and keep a high turnover rate of fat cells is a great idea. Just not right before a test.
In 2002, there was a medical study which involved several middle-aged people undergoing rapid fat loss. When they lost fat, metabolites of insecticides banned since the 70's were found in their blood. Fat can store things for a long time and liberate them rapidly when the fat is burned.
Again, exercise is GREAT for keeping your body ready for a drug test, but burning fat right before a test is a bad idea. If he had a month before the test I say strap him to a treadmill, but with a week left fat burning should be avoided.
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so did ya ever pass??????
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