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 hopefully the torch cactus (ID)
#8592239 - 07/03/08 04:36 PM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: preschooler]
#8592252 - 07/03/08 04:39 PM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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Looks like a T. peruvianus indeed. Very nice!
FH
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: felixhigh]
#8592296 - 07/03/08 04:49 PM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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sweeeeeet...  thanks man!!! 48 inchs atleast 15 lbs..... maybe 20
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: preschooler]
#8592330 - 07/03/08 04:59 PM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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Great man! Will you plant it all?
FH
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: felixhigh]
#8592632 - 07/03/08 06:24 PM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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yep, definitely a torch 
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: felixhigh]
#8592649 - 07/03/08 06:28 PM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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That kind of looks like the T. Peruvianus v Tarmansis.
I have a couple of those rooting myself. The Tarmansis is up front in the back is T Peruvianus v Ancash.
You'll probably need to cut that in half before rooting it unless you have a pretty good support system to keep it from falling over.
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: sturmer88]
#8594431 - 07/04/08 10:16 AM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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felixhigh said:
Great man! Will you plant it all?
FH
yes i will plant it in a pot... i live in zone 6 so it will spend most of the time in the store window where i work but since its the hottest time of the year im going to try to root as soon as it callouses over.
this is my first torch so im extremley excited. I weighed last night ....13 lbs
Will be posting a pic when i get her settled. An ive got a good idea for a support system...if it doesn't work i will goto plan b with a knife. thanks for all the replys
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: preschooler]
#8594762 - 07/04/08 12:37 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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A support system? You should plant it on a vase large and deep enough for it to support itself...
BTW you should think of getting some lights for this plant, otherwise it may etiolate.
Congrats!
FH
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: felixhigh]
#8594870 - 07/04/08 01:04 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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id eat a good foot of that rofl.
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: felixhigh]
#8594968 - 07/04/08 01:37 PM (3 months, 1 day ago) |
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felixhigh said:
A support system? You should plant it on a vase large and deep enough for it to support itself...
When I mentioned support system I meant while rooting. These tall cutting have a bad habit of knocking over easily.
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: sturmer88]
#8605255 - 07/07/08 06:28 PM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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After getting more information I believe these are the ones going around as the KK242 specimens that are not really active. Especially if you got yours where i think you did. My specimens were given to me but the people I have talked to that have tested them have had negative results in the mesc dept. But they are supposed to be the ones possibly hybridized with Cuzco.
The place ethno place that sells these specimens also sell seeds of them and when i asked what type of Peruvian Torch seeds they were they told me they were KK242. I have some starting from seed as well as other Peruvianus variations.
Edited by sturmer88 (07/07/08 06:33 PM)
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: sturmer88]
#8605698 - 07/07/08 08:07 PM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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that is a beautiful cactus even if non active 
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: cpw1971]
#8605982 - 07/07/08 09:16 PM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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cpw1971 said:
that is a beautiful cactus even if non active
I agree with you there. I'm rooting 3 or 4 of them just for Aesthetics if not anything else. I got them free with some Peruvianus v Ancash and my favorite Peruvianus v Forma Blue. I hope to have all of them together in the ground soon.
I can't eat cactus anyway. For one I could never bring myself to chop up something I've put so much time into plus I tried eating a San Pedro once and gagged so much I don't think I could bring myself to do it ever again. If anything it would be an extraction for me but shrooms are so much easier. Why bother with cactus for that reason. I'll stick to growing it.
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: sturmer88]
#8606226 - 07/07/08 10:06 PM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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Haha, ive only eaten it once too - strangely, i now grow my cacti too with no intention of eating them. Its pretty funny, my mates think im mad.
When i took it i ate a whole 8" like it was a cob of corn, i spewed too many times to count - but funnily enough San Pedro actually tastes much better regurgitated lol. It really does. Boiled down cactus shots taste foul, but with some decent chasers it is almost un-noticeable. I would definately like to "connect with the earth" again some time soon.
I noticed you had some PT v tarmensis sturmer? What do you think of them? I really want to grow some, they look so damn cool. 
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: scruffymafia]
#8606423 - 07/07/08 10:49 PM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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scruffymafia said:
I noticed you had some PT v tarmensis sturmer? What do you think of them? I really want to grow some, they look so damn cool.
Thats the type I was reffering to. The pic of one of mine before rooting is above. The v Tarmansis is just below the v Ancash in the pic. It also looks that "preschooler" has the same.
They look pretty cool. It's just to bad there is so much confusion out there on weather they are really PT or not. I guess allot of it has to do with Knize and his many lapses of judgment in labeling his finds. He's made allot of mistakes and doesn't even seem to attempt to correct them.
I'm no expert so I don't even pretend to understand it all. I've managed to pick up about 5-6 different Peruvianus Variations. I understand there are dozens more. You should really look into acquiring the Peruvianus v Forma blue. In my opinion it's the most beautiful I've come across. It's hard to find. Lately when looking the v Tarmansis seems to be what is mostly going around especially through the ethno vendors.
Peruvianus v Forma blue rooting
with some blue Myrtle grafting stock
Tarmansis (KK242) right, v Ancash on left
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: sturmer88]
#8606539 - 07/07/08 11:19 PM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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Yup i knew that - just my grammar was a bit skewed there, haha.
Do you think that the 'Tarmensis'/KK242 have mongrel genetics or something? I heard they are really low in alkaloid content but that doesnt matter to me 
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: scruffymafia]
#8606728 - 07/08/08 12:51 AM (2 months, 29 days ago) |
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Some people think that it could be hybridized with T Cuzcoensus which could account for it's low Alkaloid content. I'm not experienced eneough to give a good opinion. I'm glad to have a few for diversities sake but I'd rather stick with the established variations and clones which you will definitely not find from most of the ethno vendors. For some reason they all carry the KK242 specimens AKA Long spined peruvianus.
In order to find other variations i've had to rely on trades or auction sights. I've never been able to find a place that has a constant supply of anything but the KK242.
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: sturmer88]
#8607137 - 07/08/08 05:52 AM (2 months, 28 days ago) |
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I wanna collect every kind of Trich known lol.
I don't care if they aren't active either. I have my Bridgesii's and they are so potent it scares me hehe.
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: cpw1971]
#8610395 - 07/08/08 10:18 PM (2 months, 28 days ago) |
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Here is that one "PT" I got from that vendor that I think sturmer is talking about. I don't think they are the same thing though.
Mine has grown a lot since that pic. The color of the new growth's spines hint on the red side now, as opposed to the pic. I don't know why.
EG
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Re: hopefully the torch cactus (ID) [Re: ethnoguy]
#8711259 - 08/01/08 09:34 AM (2 months, 4 days ago) |
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so i finally got it up heehaw.... I gave it the whole three weeks to callous over. Actually had to cut another 1/2 inch off, because it had mold on the end when it came from the seller.I have to admit it took a lot of will power and self control not to cut a piece for myself.
she's crooked ...but I'm hoping she will straiten when the root gets established. And i know i need a larger pot but i have to save my money at the moment
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