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 chobumms
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No unfortunately, it's all true
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Shroomsbrrr
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No, if you have spores and jars ready to go your not gonna get arrested. I mean they can *try* and stick you with a conspiracy for manufacture charge but really, how are they gonna prove without a doubt youve got jars of wbs/popcorn for the sole purpose of innoculating with mushroom spores to do some illegal ish? My room got searched by the po in november sometime and they found my bong, bowls, some empty unused baggies, spores, and a pc with 2 jars full of 50/50 mix. The cops asked me what the spores and jars were for ready to go get it tested and I was just like, "the spores are for microscopy research in comparing spores to what I find when I go hunting" and "those jars are just for transferring specimens I find hunting and trying to cultivate them." The fact that i'm a bio major didnt hurt to mention either  . They were just searching for finished drugs they can use as concrete evidence. Needless to say, they gave me back my spores and left me in the hands of my school administration, who were equally chill about everything.
Edited by Shroomsbrrr (06/28/08 04:27 AM)
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 johnm214
Registered: 05/31/07
Posts: 6,010
Loc: Americas
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 Re: Can they search my house [Re: Shroomsbrrr]
#8573460 - 06/28/08 04:32 AM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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they don't need to prove beyond a doubt to arrest you, or for anything else for that matter.
The far most likely scenario is that someone will talk and that will be the basis for the conviction. People are silly and kill their cases, you see it here constantly.
But your identification of the charge as conspiracy is one reason people shouldn't make excuses: you kill your case when you don't know the law and talk.
If you think its a conspiracy charge and so you admit to plannign to inoculate, but say you decided to not do so anymore about a month ago and were just saving up for some portebello spores, you are screwed.
Voluntary abandonment isn't an affirmative defense of an attempt charge, generally, unlike a conspiracy charge, so your presumption would screw you.
Not saying you'd talk, but people do, all the time. They don't even think of it as talking. They decide "silence" really means "contrive some stupid story that satisfies the police". Only when you go to jail you might realize your mistake.
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Shroomsbrrr
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Re: Can they search my house [Re: johnm214]
#8574902 - 06/28/08 04:46 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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If you think its a conspiracy charge and so you admit to plannign to inoculate, but say you decided to not do so anymore about a month ago and were just saving up for some portebello spores, you are screwed.
Someone would have to be really fucking stupid if they think telling the truth will set you free in the eyes of the law, but like you said theres plenty of people who are and talk all the time. Dont know if you were talking about my situation with the above post, but I don't think I incriminated myself at all being that I gave two perfectly innocent and presumably valid explanations so nothing would've flown in court, just my word verse there assumptions.
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learningtofly
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Re: Can they search my house [Re: chobumms]
#8581998 - 06/30/08 09:51 PM (2 months, 7 days ago) |
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chobumms said:
lol, thanks for response though. I expected a good flamethrowing. The charge would be harboring arunaway though and that is 1-3 years, lol. The cop said they had a sensor on my phone
I was thinking " but its been in my pocket the whole time, officer"
If you're talking about a cell phone, they don't need to physically touch your phone to listen to what you're saying.
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You're a stupid hippie. That's my point.
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PowerOfTheCoir
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Registered: 07/02/08
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Grains are cheap - empty the damn jars.
Keeping anything questionable out of the house is best. Second best is keeping anything questionable in a room or closet with the door closed (and preferably locked). If they get an arrest warrant for you, they can search the area immediately around you at the time of the arrest. Most people are arrested just inside the front door, thus the living room is very vulnerable to a search. They can't enter other rooms, but if a door is open, they can look through the door from the living room. If they see anything, you're screwed. If they lie, you're screwed. If they have to break a locked door, they'll have to prove probable cause.
If no one has actually seen anything inside your home, then a search warrant will be difficult to obtain. Even if they have you for committing a crime outside of the house, they need some evidence or direct testimony establishing probable cause for something inside your house.
A "sensor" in a phone could be a GPS sensor, a dumb way of saying they are listening in on conversations, or, extremely unlikely, a phone can be used to listen to ambient noise when it's not even being used. However, cops don't tip their hands when they actually have something. If they tap a phone, they want you to say things into it. If they break down a door, they want to find something, so they won't give you warning and let you clean out the house.
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