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 blewmeanie
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 Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: druqs]
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 AlphaFalfa
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals? [Re: Plasmid]
#8587098 - 07/02/08 08:21 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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That argument was not being used.
If you looked at the first video there is extensive historic records that the summerians did meet reptilian looking aliens.
The evidence is clear when you regard both peices; one being that a 900 ton megalith, 4500 years old, would have been impossible for the summerians to create, no matter how much you wish to say "I'll never question human ingenuity" and the second being that the summerians had knowledge of pluto, a galactic body that was unknown until 30 years ago, because of the eve of a technology that the summerians could not have possible had, on top of the fact that they had knowledge of the other planets in the universe, they name earth the 7th planet for example...i mean they didnt even have cars, but we have to assume that they had a telescope in the ranks of the hubble, so as to negate the reality that they, along with many other cultures in the world came in contact with reptilian creatures that gave them all methods of agriculture, laws and the holy books of control, the religions to keep us afraid, unempowered and enslaved emotionally to what others believe...I am not willing yet to make that assumption, the evidence is way to compelling and logic bids all other hypothesis fare well, arivderchi and adios - not to mention bonjour, hola and hi, to a new world where our true orgins and the orgins of civilization can be put into prespective that actually makes sense that accounts for the huges jumps in evolution that no other animals have been able to even make a hair split of advancement towards....on the whole planet.
http://xfacts.com/lemshay.jpg
9/11 is difficult to understand with a mass of information out there....This little news broadcast where the BBC, claims to know 100% that the building Solomon Brothers, also known as WTC7, fell due to a weakend base, for a reason specific and clear, announced this 30 minutes before the fall of the building actually happen?
How do we know this, well my friend and fellow global citizen, this is simple - this video is that broadcast and in the back round, is the World trade Center, with the twin towers collapsed and WTC 7 still standing in billowing the smoke from the tiny fire, to the right of the reporter. I had to ask after this - If BBC and all news stations reported the same thing, the same reason for the WTC 7 building falling, and one did it before the actually collapse, what could have possible allowed them to predict the reason for it falling, without knowing WHY it was going to fall before hand? Keep in mind, they did not claim that they knew the base was weakend and that it WAS going to fall - NO this did not happen, they claimed it already FELL, i repeat, it already fell...enough of this, time to bring the pudding, to see the proof.
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I still find this difficult to believe in many instances of my life....but i realize the reasons for this are because of money, profit and a war where the government would have to borrow money from the wealthy elites and the wealthy elites profiting from the war and the pain, by selling the arms to the government itself.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8587133 - 07/02/08 08:43 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said:
The rocks are impossible to debunk as myth or hoax...
the rocks are real, the method of moving them and cutting them
are real, in fact man has been cutting stone since, well, the
stone age, on numerous occasions a single individual has prven
the ability to move great weights through innovative
technologies such as pebbles
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1. Since it is impossible that we can create this size rock now we cannot assume that this rock is a man made hoax created to fool people into believing in aliens. with that said, it is also noted that the rock 4500 years old - therefore; what other mode of logic, beside the mode involving alien contact, could possibly make sense of its existence?
you say a few times it is impossible to create a 900 ton stone
by modern methods, and you're right, we cant assume it was
created as a hoax, we can deduce that since the quarry was 2
miles from the site of the building it was to be delivered to we
can assume it was created for a specific purpose, to build
something.
http://www.ramtops.co.uk/baalbek.html
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As you might know, Rome is the city with the most obelisks outside of egypt. They stole the things by the dozen and took them home. The heaviest known obelisk weighs 510 tons, and it was transported some 1000's of *kilometers*. This transport was documented by the roman author Marcellinus Comes. The romans even left detailed paintings and reliefs about the ways to move such things : as on the bottom of the Theodosius-obelisk in Istanbul.
why do we not move 900 ton stones today, because with concrete,
there is no need to do so, as I pointed out in your cross posted
thread, we are capable of cutting that large and moving it.
the Gottwald AK912 is a crane that has a 1200 ton capacity, more
than capable of lifting a 900 ton stone into place, other
companies produce cranes capable of moving 2000 tons so as you
can see from the video, a few hundred men could in fact lift the
enormous stone and we are more than capable of doing so today
http://www.ale-heavylift.com/equipment/index.asp?cid=%CFq%ED
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8588062 - 07/02/08 01:45 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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That makes some sense. It still does not account for what gave humans the technology to move such massive rocks...The summerians say it was their gods, the annunaki's, it is documented.
Also the planetary idea is by far way more compelling - this civilization could not have known of pluto without extensive technology, that was no where within their hands. This one guy in the off topic discussion came and said we have created amazing feats of astrology simply by looking at the stars...yes this may be true, though when i notice that pluto is not a star and knowing that it revolves around the sun, along side the other planets, seems to take more than star gazing in my knowledge.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8588100 - 07/02/08 01:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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All this talk of Sumerians knowing about Pluto seems to come from a guy named Sitchin, who is a self-proclaimed expert whose claims are not taken seriously by any academic authorities on Mesopotamia, as far as I can tell.
http://www.ramtops.co.uk/siren.html
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: Entropymancer]
#8588242 - 07/02/08 02:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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There is no need to take a claim - just look at the tablet, which exists to be seen as we speak. They obviously had extensive knowledge of the solar system including the 9 celestial body, pluto...its not that difficult to see through the tablet i posted.
Here it is.
http://xfacts.com/lemshay.jpg
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8588253 - 07/02/08 02:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think one of the best examples of this is noticing that the summerians themselves claimed to be visited by extraterstials - on top of the rest of the information.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8588681 - 07/02/08 05:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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i bet them dots around the sun are stars not planets, which would suggest they are primitive. but that dude in the chair is holding an antenna for his flat screen tv so its a toss up
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8588721 - 07/02/08 05:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think you might be getting confused. They regarded celestial bodies as dieties. And yes, like all other cultures they had stories about interacting with those deities, particularly in their creation myths. So yes, in that sense they have stories about extraterestrial visitation.
Follow the link I posted for another opinion on that diagram of the planets.
Frankly they do not look like planets to me; that looks like a depiction of a solar eclipse.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8588881 - 07/02/08 06:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said:
That makes some sense. It still does not account for what gave humans the technology to move such massive rocks...The summerians say it was their gods, the annunaki's, it is documented.
what evidence of any technology is there, were there machines
left behind? remnants of machines? knowledge was their greatest
tool, the speaker in your first video mentions their advanced
math for such an old civilization, the video posted by myself
shows an average guy doing the same thing they achieved
they made in essence the first printing press with the
cylinders, they carved a reversed image and rolled it across a
lump of clay to make news papers, your speaker only talks about
the glyphs, he doesnt talk about cuneiform, which was the system
of writing that the sumerians developed, since the civilization
was well know for record keeping why wasnt the annunaki
doccumented there, why was that never mentioned? maybe it's
because pictographs are rarely translatable without some sort of
code breaker like the rosetta stone was for egyptian
heiroglyphics
why are the annunaki not mentioned in any of the texts written
about the civilization, they mention the 4 primary gods but
theres no mention of the other worldly beings by anyone other
than 'new age' writers
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Also the planetary idea is by far way more compelling - this civilization could not have known of pluto without extensive technology, that was no where within their hands. This one guy in the off topic discussion came and said we have created amazing feats of astrology simply by looking at the stars...
he also made mention that math was the means in which more
modern man had discovered pluto and then it was actually sited
in 1915, stop discounting the facts because they dont fit into
your beliefs, math and observation were responsible for the
discovery
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto
In the 1840s, using Newtonian mechanics, Urbain Le Verrier predicted the position of the then-undiscovered planet Neptune after analysing perturbations in the orbit of Uranus.[15] Subsequent observations of Neptune in the late 19th century caused astronomers to speculate that Uranus' orbit was being disturbed by another planet in addition to Neptune. In 1905, Percival Lowell, a wealthy Bostonian who had founded the Lowell Observatory in Flagstaff, Arizona in 1894, started an extensive project in search of a possible ninth planet, which he termed "Planet X".[16] By 1909, Lowell and William H. Pickering had suggested several possible celestial coordinates for such a planet.[17] Lowell and his observatory conducted his search from 1905 until his death in 1916, but to no avail. Unbeknownst to Lowell, on March 19, 1915, his observatory would capture two faint images of Pluto, but would not recognise them for what they were.[18][17]
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yes this may be true, though when i notice that pluto is not a star and knowing that it revolves around the sun, along side the other planets, seems to take more than star gazing in my knowledge.
this makes no sense, 'star gazing' doesnt just include stars, it
includes planets as well, we call it astronomy
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8588903 - 07/02/08 06:18 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said:
its not that difficult to see through the tablet i posted.
it's not too hard to see that the annunaki created egyptians in
several flavors, one of whom were bird people, others were
jackal people, egyptians are the missing links, it's as plain
as day because it's right here on this wall for everyone to see
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: Prisoner#1]
#8588927 - 07/02/08 06:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Uh oh, are the bird- and jackal-headed aliens going to return on 2012 too? 
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: Entropymancer]
#8588945 - 07/02/08 06:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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it will be a battle between them and the annunaki, that is what will destroy the earth, there shall be no winners
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: Entropymancer]
#8588959 - 07/02/08 06:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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no matter how much g-13 i couldve smoked a floating blip in the sky is something to say wtf?.. about thou at the time i was under the impression not sayin anythin would be a better idea as a "I gotta stop smoking this shit" wouldve been HILARIOUS
no joke yellow fucking floating light
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: aiyobro]
#8589288 - 07/02/08 08:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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"i bet them dots around the sun are stars not planets, which would suggest they are primitive. but that dude in the chair is holding an antenna for his flat screen tv so its a toss up"
I cant see why they would draw stars around the sun, those look exactly like planets revolving around the sun to be.
Another way of telling tha they had knowledge of other planets, was that they knew of earth as being the seventh planet, the logic follows through niceley from that.
"it's not too hard to see that the annunaki created egyptians in
several flavors, one of whom were bird people, others were
jackal people, egyptians are the missing links, it's as plain
as day because it's right here on this wall for everyone to see"
Humans were said to not be able to depict the annunaki the way they actually looked...summerians specifically.
"he also made mention that math was the means in which more
modern man had discovered pluto and then it was actually sited
in 1915, stop discounting the facts because they dont fit into
your beliefs, math and observation were responsible for the"
Stop attempting to know my intentions. I believe the truth, plain and simple - i have no reason to believe what is false, simply because it suits who i think i am...nay i dont believe in identity, everything i THINK i am, is nothing compared to what it is I AM, the thing observing the thought about who i am, the thoughts about identity.
Your beliefs are not believable - you assume that simply because math could have been the way they found out about pluto - my guesse is that you didnt watch the video - they knew more than just that pluto existed....they knew specific observations about venus the planet...i suggest u watch the video, before you believe you know what is actually going on, let alone my intentions about this discussion.
new question; explain how they had observations about venus that surmounted to ones as good as the ones we had now, with satelite technology and telescopes?
"what evidence of any technology is there, were there machines
left behind? remnants of machines? knowledge was their greatest
tool, the speaker in your first video mentions their advanced
math for such an old civilization, the video posted by myself
shows an average guy doing the same thing they achieved"
I think you assumed that the Annunaki, the aliens the summerians came in contact with, want us to know about them and by leaving some technology behind...i dont think they want us to know, they wrote the biblical tales, the earliest ones for us, im sure they only had bad intentions filled with control of our emotions, for us.
I watched that video that guy didnt do anything near what they would have had to do - he was lifting a 16 ton rock or 160 ton rock, they had to quarrie a rock, lift it out of a quarry (it being much heavier than 900 tons before the cut), then drag it 5 miles. That guy in the video would have been licked the moment they would have asked him to quarry the rock, life it OUT of the earth.
SO answere my question here please, without posing the end possibility of alien help.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8589622 - 07/02/08 09:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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AlphaFalfa said:
Another way of telling tha they had knowledge of other planets, was that they knew of earth as being the seventh planet, the logic follows through niceley from that.
the 7th plannet? and pluto being the 12th?
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Humans were said to not be able to depict the annunaki the way they actually looked...summerians specifically.
oh, that's convienient
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Stop attempting to know my intentions.
I'm making an observation, your facts are far from what archeology, modern engineering and modern science has
determined
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Your beliefs are not believable - you assume that simply because math could have been the way they found out about pluto - my guesse is that you didnt watch the video - they knew more than just that pluto existed....they knew specific observations about venus the planet
you made the statement yourself that you missed the part about venus, the planet that's clearly visible to the naked eye, just as mars and jupiter are as for my beliefs, well, I've refuted the guys claims in the video regarding modern man being able to quarry and move 900 ton stones, I refuted several other points, I even showed where the romans had moved objects weighing almost as much over much greater distances and erected them in rome
you've yet to debunk any of my 'proof', all you claims are based
on the writings of a 'new age' author that would like us all to
disregard hundreds of years of archaeological research and
believe it was UFOs that did all this for man
...i suggest u watch the video, before you believe you know what is actually going on, let alone my intentions about this discussion.
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I think you assumed that the Annunaki, the aliens the summerians came in contact with, want us to know about them and by leaving some technology behind...i dont think they want us to know, they wrote the biblical tales, the earliest ones for us, im sure they only had bad intentions filled with control of our emotions, for us.
again, it's quite convenient that no traces were left behind
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I watched that video that guy didnt do anything near what they would have had to do - he was lifting a 16 ton rock or 160 ton rock, they had to quarrie a rock, lift it out of a quarry (it being much heavier than 900 tons before the cut), then drag it 5 miles. That guy in the video would have been licked the moment they would have asked him to quarry the rock, life it OUT of the earth.
dont make assumptions, you made one in believing man couldnt move the stones in the first place or even quarry the rocks
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SO answere my question here please, without posing the end possibility of alien help.
easy... the ingenuity and intelligence of mankind
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8590129 - 07/03/08 12:00 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I still firmly believe that all aliens and gods in history are from the use of ethenogens.
Not much emphasis has been put in by anthropologists to suggest that ethenogens may be the reason for the rapid gain of knowledge by man, and the weird alien/godly encounters that occur through most all of early history.
Honestly, I believe that mushroom and goddess religions are the reason for Samaria, and Mesopotamia to be such great centers of knowledge and the origins of language, math, agriculture and so on.
We cam from Africa, it only makes sence that our religious habits would follow, and once in a place where we could flourish, we had an explosion of knowledge, and discoveries.
While i do believe in other life in the universe, im more prone to believe that mushrooms and human curiosity/boredom are the reason we are where we are today.
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