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OfflineChronic777
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Re: I Am [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8579668 - 06/30/08 04:38 AM (1 month, 30 days ago)

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JoseLibrado said:


If all thought changes reality, then all thought is awarenesss, because if a thought about reality changes and awarneess follows, then they are bound and thus the same thing.






We create our own individual realities with our thoughts, but these are dreams not reality, reality (imo) never changes as if something comes & vanishes into nothing then how can it have been real?

The only reality is awareness which is unchanging & experienced by all beings all the time, awareness is before thought, even the most subtle thought "I Am", if you stay as the awareness before I Am then the whole of existence is revealed to itself.


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Re: I Am [Re: Chronic777]
    #8580139 - 06/30/08 10:18 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

If you define real as something unchanging, then you have not come across the following; If you believe what is real is unchanging, why do you eat? Why do you get a job, wear clothing while in public???? If this dream is really not real, then why do any of these???

I know why i do them...I am a creator by nature, I must create even if it means to create destruction. This is what we do when we seek out new knowledge, to expand our creative abilities to tweak and excite them.

But what can you decipher is not dream and reality?

The reason for this question is; if this understanding was not always there, then how do you know this itself will not leave, by what fact is I am something that you believe as eternal, unchanging?

I honestly have alot of questions about this, i am in no way answering them by asking them...i am like a little kid in a play ground, asking why is it that this slide will be better than the one i am presently on :smile:

Also I AM does not exist with what follow I AM - which is I AM gay or I am HOBO or I AM george.

I say this because I am cannot be known in the form I am, as something we can identify with, unless there exists in some reality something that allows us to logicall identify with a name, a preference, a color. For example, If I am blue does not exist in reality, why did us as a human race develope it and if we did develope it out of a dream, where shall we develope our ideas from and how can we trust in our reality when it has fooled us once before????

I say this because we would be sure that we did not freely fool ourselves previous to coming to this idea of ; I AM and if this is the real, true reality, what could have possibly made us think it wasnt but something REAL - I guesse its like this then; both illusion and reality, are real.

BOy I love this stuff, its fucking sweet!!! HAAAA

SWEETTTTT

Hoping you recieve this - I really want peace


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The mind is a creative tool. It searches to protect you, through message sensations(feelings). It is no different than a computer, you need to make sure its anti-virus program is in check and that it doesnt have a script that limits your experience, because of to much precaution.

And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....


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Re: I Am [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8580206 - 06/30/08 10:50 AM (1 month, 29 days ago)

I eat have a job & create alot of music (much more than before), but none of these define what I Am, theres simply no clinging to life just honoring life, which is a ton sweeter than being lost in identification, at present for me anyway.

All the happenings in life will happen with or without the individual sense of a do-er, theres no side for you to come to :wink: only home, where you already are, but identity is still attached to a name & form, i know it may seem to give up identification is like being irresponsible & abandoning life but its just realising that the sense of responsibility and do-ership is not true, theres no one who lives life, just life.

I haven't turned into a hairy baba dass roaming the streets :grin:
But what i have come away with is a great love for all of life and appreciation of all experiences, in moments of fully being aware you can actually see that everything life sends your way is the grace of the guru, when lost in the dream of identity i found it almost impossible to be truly grateful for having a life in this body, i wanted to know why i had a life and desired truth more than i desired to live.

I do think that for someone to awaken they have to have this burning desire within them, or maybe they're karma has allowed some to not have this burning within them & still awaken

Sending good vibes your way dude :psychsplit:


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Re: I Am [Re: Chronic777]
    #8581125 - 06/30/08 05:50 PM (1 month, 29 days ago)

Hey I might have felt your vibes today, i felt very calm at some points, with an interesting sense that I dont usually experience.

Identifying is useless, and painful. I agree with what this means now, i just couldnt understand what was present.

I remember one day thinking about identifying, and it has alot to do with being loved, it is a form of communication, like words are a form of love and ways to love, trully this is what it comes down too, but as of right now we have it backwards, love comes from within, eternal and always flowing - because of this it has become a fear driven notion to identify, this is one of the reasons why i felt so bad about myself for being confused about my sexuality - when i realized that i was neither, gay or straight - though at this point it is very difficult, because the identification comes without me choosing, especially when surrounded by people who cannot communicate in any other way with me about my sexuality, when they notice that it is not in what we deem good, and acceptable.

I cant help it, even though i dont identify with the identification, it still effects my existence and i still recognize that i am under certain emotions and thus actions out off my control which i cannot change, less and less with others who see there is no reason to change it....

Have you ever experienced such difficulty? What are your thoughts about telepathy and our connected mind, and how does it fall within this ideas here?

For me a relation with someone fits in with the same way i view the relation with a thought - i choose to focus on people with the right ideas, and relating with them in this existence, like i do with the thoughts...at this point i am stuck, because of financial reasons soon I will be heading out on my own - Through WWOOF canada an organization that connects you with farmers and they take you in feed you and house you for 30 hours a week for work. :smile: All i have to do is get to their place heeeeeee.

Any who i am excited and i know those vibes will flow back to you, as is.

keep in touch


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The mind is a creative tool. It searches to protect you, through message sensations(feelings). It is no different than a computer, you need to make sure its anti-virus program is in check and that it doesnt have a script that limits your experience, because of to much precaution.

And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....


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Re: I Am [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8583512 - 07/01/08 10:07 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)



Whenever i feel an overpowering emotion all that i need to do for it to lose its power is realize that i am identifying with the emotion, when i don't identitfy with the emotion being what i am, for eg "I Am angry" is saying I Am anger, but when i observe anger in the body and don't identify with it its almost like a fire that burns away the anger, it can be very fearful but if you throw yourself into it, it becomes liberating.

Identification is painful as it places a limit on your beingness, you are being which is infinite, and all experiences come in this infinite space of you being, but none of these experiences define who you are as they come & go. Attaching to these experiences is the cause of misery & anxiety, mistrust etc...

With the bi thing id say this is a great experience for you, why define yourself as gay or straight? Dont identify with either and let the body desire what it is natural for it to, just dont identify with the desire :wink:

I (along with every being in existence) have many telepathic experiences everyday. Recognition of them happens spontaniously, its not like i can switch it on or off & its all due to simply being aware & especially being compassionate towards other beings. Ive even had momentary contact with beings that are not from this planet but these are all still nothing to be proud of as they are happening all the time to all of us we are just not aware of it, i don't want to go into that side of it here really though as its pointles & sounds nuts!

Dont search for supernatural powers, search for the one who is there to witness them! :wink:

:peace:


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"Now I have become totally empty"
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"Now go and throw this emptiness also!"


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Re: I Am [Re: Chronic777]
    #8583773 - 07/01/08 11:41 AM (1 month, 28 days ago)

yeah its fun to do that, detach from an emotion. I still dont find that it goes away though - just the emotions attached to the emotion such as anger pride shame, occuring wont come, which are by far some of the worst - still ones such as pride can be pretty good at times....hehe. I find sometimes i dont have much of a choice and i repress one emotion (pride) and shame i live it for punishment haha. But who is punishing who, when to be punished i must be more than one thing - as the punisher can only exist with the punished, like the seen with the see'r.


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The mind is a creative tool. It searches to protect you, through message sensations(feelings). It is no different than a computer, you need to make sure its anti-virus program is in check and that it doesnt have a script that limits your experience, because of to much precaution.

And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....


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Re: I Am [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8587519 - 07/02/08 11:39 AM (1 month, 27 days ago)

Dont supress anything, if anything feel it fully, but all the while remebering that anything you can feel can't be you as you are there aware of it :wink:

Anger & fear are great things to feel if they aren't fought against, theres a non personal beingness that is living all these lives & LOVES feeling & experiencing all these things, the good & the bad. Stay as this beingness which loves life instead of the middleman interpreter (ego) which thinks it can make life better somehow!

The beingness is the do-er of all actions & LOVES living life, the ego is merely the sense that its "me" who does them and feels that it would prefer one state over another.

There no evil or good just preferences. :mushroom2:

:peace:


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"Now I have become totally empty"
Bodhidharma slapped him immediately and said
"Now go and throw this emptiness also!"


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