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Bottle Cultivation
    #8583736 - 07/01/08 11:27 AM (3 months, 4 days ago)

I may have found a sawdust source, a local sawmill, and if it works out I'd like to try bottle cultivation (in quart jars) of king oysters and possibly other species.

My plan is to fill jars with substrate mixture, and make a small diameter hole down the center of the jar to dump spawn in as seen here

Questions:  Is this feasable?  Would it work with shiitakes?  Anyone with bottle cultivation experience, please let me know what you think.  I would like to set things in motion within the next couple of weeks.


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Re: Bottle Cultivation [Re: faffle]
    #8585099 - 07/01/08 06:26 PM (3 months, 4 days ago)

Make sure you double check with the sawmill that it includes no softwood. Mine assured me it was hardwood, then later one of their crew clarified to 'mostly' hardwood. I ended up buying my sawdust from a hardwood flooring place.

Why bottles? Seems more expensive way to go. I could see bottles if you had the big bottle handling systems and you were going all mechanized.

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Re: Bottle Cultivation [Re: faffle]
    #8585807 - 07/01/08 09:23 PM (3 months, 4 days ago)

I don't have much experience with bottle cultivation when it comes to gourmet mushrooms. I do now this guy Steve Farrar that owns the golden gourmet mushroom company w/ the kinoko company and they do pretty well with the king in bottles. Check this out Golden Gourmet He told me they use a mixture of sawdust and leftover brewers grains from the local brewing companies. The bottles are a bit bigger than a quart jar, but hey, Couldn't hurt to try some trial runs if thats the way you feel might be easier for you.

Anno posted a link a little while back of  a farm in Thailand I think it was. They grow some mushrooms from plastic bags w/ a filter cap. They super- sterilized them  in steel drums and could fit a lot in there. I would imagine you could do kings like that and just cut the plastic off of the top when time to fruit.

Good luck with  your endeavour.

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Re: Bottle Cultivation [Re: Culland]
    #8592261 - 07/03/08 04:42 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

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Culland said:
Why bottles? Seems more expensive way to go. I could see bottles if you had the big bottle handling systems and you were going all mechanized.



I'm thinking it might be hard to do bags without a flow hood.  Am I wrong?  All I have is a glove box.


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Re: Bottle Cultivation [Re: faffle]
    #8593136 - 07/03/08 09:44 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

All I have is a glove box at the moment and so far the only contaminated bags I have had were as a result of some questionable jars, or ones where I went LC -> bag. A flow hood would certainly be easier, but of course it would be for jars too. I just skip the step of filling the bag up with air that I see a lot of flow hood users do. I figure it has a filter, fluff the bag up as much as I can and it is good enough.

However, I don't see a harm in doing it in bottles, I was just more curious as to your reasoning from a personal learning stand point.

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