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 Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals? 
#8583426 - 07/01/08 08:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey PUB
I am here to show you factual information.
What you make of it is your choice, as you already know.
The following Video is one of specific interest, it notes a 900 ton rock that had to be quarried and cut to be in the shape it is now - a rock which the technology we have presently, would not be able to create.
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What this begs the question of is.
1. Since it is impossible that we can create this size rock now we cannot assume that this rock is a man made hoax created to fool people into believing in aliens. with that said, it is also noted that the rock 4500 years old - therefore; what other mode of logic, beside the mode involving alien contact, could possibly make sense of its existence?
Simple question to all who cannot believe in aliens, yet because of no proof.
Another less convincing evidence, though still strong and compelling - is the following clay tablet from the summerian culture of messpotamia 4000-2000 BC.
It shows what is alleged contact with 'those who heaven to earth came' or aliens and whats more is it shows that these summerians, more importantly, possesed knowledge of pluto a planet which was discovered within the 20th century due to increased technological advancement that the summerians had no records of....
Question is; where did they get this knowledge and is it coincidental that they claimed to have contacted alien beings?
The Tablet is mentioned within the first or second part of the above video, it will show you through the words of the presenter.
Now that the Perliminary info is settled and the proper questions about extra-terrestials are in place, be ready to take off to new cloud of understandings in this video,
cloud Nine baby, here she is.
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For those who cannot be bothered - this video raises the question about the 223 chromosomes not found in any other animal and BETTER, in NONE of our predecessors, the people by evolution theory, the present phsyical form came from.
In my mind the missing link is impossible to find, because it doesnt exist...we were genetically altered, is it to hard to believe that? Look at the facts and look at our mental capacity as compared to other animals.
good fun, and have fun with it all.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8583752 - 07/01/08 10:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've researched this extensively, I am an archealogy major at Trent university and have never found such an astonishing find as this - it bring shaking to the foundation of all our history and evolution.
Thanks for doing this, aplha good show.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: JoseLibrado]
#8583828 - 07/01/08 11:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm at school right now so I can't watch the videos. But by just reading what u wrote sounds pretty convincing. Can't wait to watch the videos when I get home
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: fantasylndvictm]
#8583832 - 07/01/08 11:03 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe our mind is the missing link. I mean our mind has alot of power and does things on it's own without us knowing alot. Maybe it created the chromosomes Idk I've never studied any of this before it's just my theory
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"How do we know whether the life of any creature has fulfilled its destiny? I have known the very old to die in bitterness and despair. I have seen young children die before their time but leave behind such a legacy of love and joy that grief for their passing was tempered by the knowledge that their brief lives had given much to others."
"You have answered your own question,Tanis Half-Elven, far better than I could," the Forestmaster said gravely. "Say that that our lives are measured not by gain but by giving." -Dragonlance "Dragons of Autumn Twilight"
If we lived in luxury we would grow soft.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: JoseLibrado]
#8583848 - 07/01/08 11:07 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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That second video made absolutely no sense. Those 23 genes from a "missing man" came from retroviruses carrying DNA not in our evolutionary history. We have some genes from other species entirely unrelated to us, through lateral transfer via mutally inveftive viruses. There's also a great deal of room for ancient retroviruses whose DNA we still contain to cause substantial rearrangements in DNA, which would lead to genes that would appear unrelated to anything previous.
It's basically just describing the process of evolution (but from a perspective that neglects the obvious survival benefits that come from increased intelligence, even at the cost of physical frailties). It says, "See this amazing progression? It musta been aliens!" Ignoring the fact that we see the same amazing progression in any novel species.
This has got me interested in ancient Sumer a little more though
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: Entropymancer]
#8584076 - 07/01/08 12:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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So the aliens had to teach the humans?
What I want to know is who visited those aliens and thought them?
Or perhaps humans have all figured this out for themselves?
What happened to knowledge in the 30000 years between the (estimated) start of language and Sumerian culture is a complete mystery to us.
In such a long time without TV or World of Warcraft many things must have been discovered by inquisitive humans who were physiologically identical to us, no need for aliens to help us.
If we can't explain their accomplishments it means that they were smarter than us. No need to be ashamed about it.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: koppie]
#8584095 - 07/01/08 12:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, the ancients had a lot of great information, but this seems a bit far-fetched.
The "missing link", the 23 genes, are not proof of aliens passing these biological features upon us.
Many things, similar to what the ancient's may or may not have written about "contact", is not much more profound by it's proclamation than the current US president saying he was contacted by "god" or the many servants of Allah claiming a relationship with the creator of the universe via mental communication.
And the rock? Well, fuck it, I dunno.
Maybe you're right. If so, then why haven't the aliens come back to us now? We would be able to trade iPods for their nifty gadgets. I'm sure that's much better than anything the ancient Sumerians would have been able to trade!
~monk
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: numonkei]
#8584101 - 07/01/08 12:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, I love how he attributes "higher math" to the ancients. Sure they had knowledge of basic numeric manipulation, and of geometry. There were even some flashes of brilliance in the area of geometry. But I don't really consider anything short of calculus to be "higher math". Calculus is what broke the mold on mathematics.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: Entropymancer]
#8584116 - 07/01/08 12:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kind of reminds me of Stargate. Not anything specific, but the ideas there are more realistic than the bible. The bible has alot of ancient stories that they stole from other ancient stories, then made it their own.
I don't believe that the human race is only even 100k years old. I believe we are much older, and humans might even be in other parts of the galaxy. then again, i have pretty crazy thoughts and might be delusional.
I do believe that aliens came to earth at some point to check things out at the very least. Who knows, maybe all this 2012 crap is when they are coming back. that would be a trip. It would be funny if they did and the first question they had for us was; why aren't you using the greatest resource we left for you? We left marijuana on this planet for a clean fuel, for making numerous things, for cleaning the air, for medical purposes, for getting stoned to! It's a perfect plant we left that has many uses, why wont you use it?
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: Kada]
#8584312 - 07/01/08 01:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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"aliens didnt have to teach us anything, They implanted the instructions in our DNA." They might of helped us carry those huge ass rocks though. Maybe 2012 is the time they come back and see how we did with our infinate wisdom... I bet they will be dissapointed Personally I dont think aliens had anything to do with our evolution. but who knows for sure???? NO ONE
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: danlennon3]
#8584690 - 07/01/08 03:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
danlennon3 said:
Maybe 2012 is the time they come back and see how we did with our infinate wisdom... I bet they will be dissapointed
Lol thats so funny they probably would to.
Kada- I was thinking the same thing about weed and the aliens lol. It would make sense if what is being talked about in this thread is true.
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"You have answered your own question,Tanis Half-Elven, far better than I could," the Forestmaster said gravely. "Say that that our lives are measured not by gain but by giving." -Dragonlance "Dragons of Autumn Twilight"
If we lived in luxury we would grow soft.
Edited by fantasylndvictm (07/01/08 03:48 PM)
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: fantasylndvictm]
#8585955 - 07/01/08 09:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey.
"Maybe you're right. If so, then why haven't the aliens come back to us now?"
Monk.
They are still here, they rule us through control means like religion, socially created fears and resources like the media.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8585978 - 07/01/08 09:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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They might be, From my research there is no reason to believe it is out of the question that they are still here.
The rocks are impossible to debunk as myth or hoax...we cant even make them with the technology we Have, so no one person in the world could of made it as a hoax that is so easily believable, if you consider that the idea aliens exist and influenced our evolution, if not genetically but socially, is pretty scary and goes against everything we have been taught...then again - the rulers of the world, if they were aliens wouldnt want us to know about them, now would they???
Keep that in mind and its less of a surprise.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8586082 - 07/01/08 09:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can't comment on the archaeological aspects, as i have no background in that. But having taken plenty of molecular biology and genetics courses, I can tell you without a doubt that second video is an absolute joke. (I'm not refuting aliens could have played withour DNA and set up civilization as we know it... what I'm saying is that, if you believe anything in that second video added any supporting evidence to the claim, you need to brush up on genetics and evolutionary theory. The first video was somewhat interesting, the second a farsicle letdown)
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8586188 - 07/01/08 09:56 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
AlphaFalfa said:
Hey.
"Maybe you're right. If so, then why haven't the aliens come back to us now?"
Monk.
They are still here, they rule us through control means like religion, socially created fears and resources like the media.
i really like this alien post, and think ignoring the records of our ancestors is a dumb thing, but this post right here kinda tipped it to the "crazy" level. not to be a dick or anything, but thats a huge statement that will be hard to show evidence of without a paranoid rant. still, good thread, im right there with you on the amazing feats of the earliest societies.
i posted this to you in the other thread too, but have you read "Fingerprints of the Gods" by Graham Hancock? he does a great job showing how unbelievable our prehistory is.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: Entropymancer]
#8586416 - 07/01/08 11:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good for the heads up necro. though from personal experience i am beggining to believe that they put their genes into us at some point. Actually i was walking around today and i noticed how races seem so different and i couldnt help but notice that they may have done this purposefully to keep us at odds with each other to take away the heat from them.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8586429 - 07/01/08 11:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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isn't there a chance that humans thrived before the dinosaurs...and that dinosaurs were actually genetically enginered and whipped us all out or something else did. i dunno but maybe we have been here alot longer than we originally think
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals? [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8586512 - 07/01/08 11:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just because one hypothesis or theory fails to explain something doesn't automatically mean that the second or third or fourth best hypothesis is automatically correct.
This is the kind of reasoning that WTC conspiracy theorists and intelligent design proponents follow and it just doesn't follow.
Examples of both lines of reasoninig:
"The conventional explanation for how the WTC towers collapsed are insufficient. Since the next best explanation is that the WTC was brought down by controlled demolition, then this must be true."
That's simply not the case. Though it may well be that the next best explanation really is controlled demolition, that doesn't make it true by default. All hypotheses can be overthrown and we generally don't accept particularly weak hypotheses as true just because nothing works better (if it's a weak hypotheses that represents our best guess, then generally it is best to say that we don't have a good explanation, instead of saying that our lack of knowledge represents "proof" of a weak hypothesis being true).
"Evolution is not a sufficient explanation for systems that are 'irreducibly complex' so it cannot explain the origins and development of life. Hence, the alternative explanation, that life was designed by an intelligent being must be true."
Again, that just doesn't follow (never mind the fact that once the IDers think they've established that ID must be true that the intelligence must be God, as opposed to any other wild theory like humans going back from an alternate future or extraterrestrials).
The absence of evidence to completely support the best hypothesis is not anything near being proof that the secondary hypothesis is correct.
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#8586526 - 07/02/08 12:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well if the aliens really do have some nifty ultra-special jeans, I think Levi's would like to know about it 
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Re: Looking to the Sky - A new idea about our evolution - How are we so different than other animals [Re: Entropymancer]
#8586587 - 07/02/08 12:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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if they were that intelligent why did they all worship ridiculous gods?
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