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    #8574285 - 06/28/08 01:11 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Hey, newbie to shroomery, first post. I grew once before, using the famous pf tek, had results, not major results though. This time Im copying to Lets Grow Mushrooms! videos chapter 1.3 "Steps to Perfect Grain Spawn" I have a few questions about that. I understand how to sterilize rye berries, is there anyway working around a pressure cooker though..? I was going to use quart jars like he does in the video, but had thoughts about half gallon jars, any suggestions..? I am going to be using straw as substrate copying the video chapter 1.7 "Lets Do Straw" I wanted to do the laundry basket tek, but he says that one does much better outdoors, so instead I was going to do the straw log tek.. But I really want a bulk growth.. And how much cc should i inject into each jar if they are quarts/half gallon.. I appreciate the help..

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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: deoshroomboy]
    #8574324 - 06/28/08 01:26 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

First, if you are going to use whole grains you need to PC them you wont kill of all the bad guys if you don't.

Second, if you are growing cubies, do a monotub for great flushes. If your growing edible and your doing everything else just like RR says, I would do the basket or the log just like he says. That is an awesome vidieo. I have it also. Sooo much info for sooo little $$$$$s.
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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: deoshroomboy]
    #8574368 - 06/28/08 01:42 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

there may be a way around the pc if you try this tek


http://www.shroomery.org/5248/What-is-fractional-sterilization-or-tyndallization

ive never tried it myself but it seems logical enough to work

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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: xenophobe]
    #8574382 - 06/28/08 01:45 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds good, but sounds good doesn't always work out good. What do you think RR?


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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: robanero]
    #8574396 - 06/28/08 01:51 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I think fractional sterilization has a place in third world countries where they need to sterilize barrel loads of spawn cheaply over a wood fire. 

However, in developed countries where a pressure cooker can be had for $10 at Goodwill, Salvation Army, thrift shops, flea markets, garage sales, etc., I see no point.
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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8574421 - 06/28/08 02:02 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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I think fractional sterilization has a place in third world countries where they need to sterilize barrel loads of spawn cheaply over a wood fire. 

However, in developed countries where a pressure cooker can be had for $10 at Goodwill, Salvation Army, thrift shops, flea markets, garage sales, etc., I see no point.
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LMAO! I knew what you would say from reading other posts and I think this has been asked a few times. I am no expert for sure so I don't like to put down others teks, but I do like it when you tell us like it is.


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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: robanero]
    #8574446 - 06/28/08 02:11 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

He wasn't "putting down" the other teks.  It is simply a matter of using what's available to you.  Why use an inferior method when it's cheap and easily available to have a solid, proven method at your hands.  For a third world country, they (generally) don't have access to even heating methods and the pressure cookers necessary for our methods so they use the best method available to them.

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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: MycoAu]
    #8574531 - 06/28/08 02:44 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Yea. Those weren't the best words to use. Should have said I wouldn't want to discourage one that I haven't used before. But the point is that even in hard times there is always a way to afford a PC, at least in the US. It took me 4 months to save $10 to buy my first PC from a pawn shop in '96. an old ass but in perfect shape AA941. And I do understand that 3rd WCs have to do something different. Hope I'm not still sounding like an ass. 

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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: robanero]
    #8574552 - 06/28/08 02:52 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

There is no way getting around a PC when using grains.


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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: MarioTrip]
    #8574997 - 06/28/08 05:17 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I am growing cubensis, i have three strains; Alacabenzi, Ban Phang Ka, and Brazilian. Going to take advice and go to goodwill in a few days and grab a pressure cooker. robanero; About the monotub, how should I go about doing it, did a search, but didn't find to many in detail posts.. Seen one with great results, I'm looking to use straw mostly. What else should I use, and what kind of containers will do good?

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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: deoshroomboy]
    #8575018 - 06/28/08 05:23 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Another thing.. in Lets Grow Mushrooms, he says that the laundry basket tek is better outdoors, but I can't grow outdoors. So i was going to do the straw log, but the results on the straw log doesn't seem as good. Is there a reason why he didn't want the laundry basket done indoors?

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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: deoshroomboy]
    #8575023 - 06/28/08 05:24 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

2 great monotub teks in my sig


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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: Sef]
    #8575084 - 06/28/08 05:54 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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2 great monotub teks in my sig




Thanks :thumbup:
I was hoping to read someones awesome log and Ive seen em both :shrug: Not that they are any less awesome :rockon:


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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #8575912 - 06/28/08 11:09 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

You can do a laundry basket indoors, but they're so large you'll need a good sized mini-greenhouse.  You can also fruit laundry baskets indoors by simply laying a sheet of plastic over the whole basket, lifting up daily to mist and air it out.  Straw often contaminates if there's not enough air circulation, so that's why they work so well outdoors, IF conditions are right.  Obviously, a hot, dry desert in the summertime won't work for growing outdoor mushrooms.
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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: Sef]
    #8576644 - 06/29/08 07:29 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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2 great monotub teks in my sig




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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: robanero]
    #8576759 - 06/29/08 08:55 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Cool, thanks for the responses everyone.. I'm going with  Faht makes a bulk tub. Can I use something that is as good as poo? And for the jars, I going to be using quarts, though I did give though to half gallons. How much cc should I innoc for quart/half G.? I'm not sure if I'm going to use wbs or rye berries.. Any suggestions..?

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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: deoshroomboy]
    #8576826 - 06/29/08 09:40 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

For WBS I personally wouldn't go with anything over pints. They just don't seem to colonize fast enough. If you are going to use RB's qts are good. I dont know about .5 gallons. RR might tell you they are fine.
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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: robanero]
    #8577160 - 06/29/08 12:30 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

RR.. Any comments..

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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: deoshroomboy]
    #8577168 - 06/29/08 12:33 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Grains such as rye, wbs, wheat and corn do best in quart/liter jars.  Personally, I don't like 1/2 gallons.
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Re: Let's Grow Mushrooms! [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8652642 - 07/18/08 07:56 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Having a real hard time finding rye berries near me. tried having whole foods order them for me but they have been taken 3 weeks.. I don't want to order them from the internet because of the shipping prices, I'm looking for a 25 lb or so. appreciate the help..

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