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 Cervantes
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 Zen and the Art of Bullshit
#8571789 - 06/27/08 05:19 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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Buddhism, far too often, leads people down a path of holier-than-thou stagnation.
Too bad.
Buddhism is a beautiful philosophy... but how it is applied by SO MANY hippies... especially around here... Oy! It makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
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 OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: Cervantes]
#8571795 - 06/27/08 05:22 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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It makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
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PhanTomCat
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 Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: Cervantes]
#8572411 - 06/27/08 08:37 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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Cervantes said:
Buddhism, far too often, leads people down a path of holier-than-thou stagnation.
What makes you feel this way.....?
Is it because they seem to know the answer to everything, or.......?
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Cervantes
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: PhanTomCat]
#8572500 - 06/27/08 09:05 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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PhanTomCat said:
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Cervantes said:
Buddhism, far too often, leads people down a path of holier-than-thou stagnation.
What makes you feel this way.....?
Is it because they seem to know the answer to everything?
That is part of it.
Just read this forum on any given day.
It seems to me that people who claim to have the answers to everything often ignore the evidence to the contrary.
They remind me of Christian Fundamentalists.
I can't count the number of times I have seen a 20 year old come in here and post claiming that they know the truth... "WE ARE ALL ONE!!!!"
But if anybody shows them things like facts or evidence they just say, "You haven't seen what I have seen so you can't understand."
How egotistical.
How unlike the Buddha.
How immature.
Just 'cause you've had an enlightening trip does not mean you understand how everything works
And when I ask them to show me an enlightened man... without fail they can not.
I guess when one's head is inserted firmly up one's ass... we are all the same. 
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 Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: Cervantes]
#8572543 - 06/27/08 09:20 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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I feel ya, most everyone I know is opinionated about "something", especially here....
It isn't just the Fundamentalists or the Buddhists, it is pretty much everyone, about some specific facet of life....
"You haven't seen what I have seen so you can't understand."
This statement isn't really false, but others just don't associate subjective truth with "the truth" -
because it wasn't their subjective experience....
Nobody has the answers to "everything", and honestly, I have never seen anyone claim that....
If I say "we are all one", it is more the fact that we are all (down to the core) made out of the very same fundamental building blocks of reality....
Which is not a false statement....
We ARE all the same in that respect, and we ARE all different in other respects....
Some of the things discussed in this forum has no evidence to the contrary, except subjective interpretations of experiences.....
Those ideas are still usually shot down, not taking into account the subjective evidence to the contrary....
And it is all mostly ego struggles, I will agree with that....
But, whatcha~ gonna~ dew~....?
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Cervantes
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: PhanTomCat]
#8572695 - 06/27/08 09:59 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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PhanTomCat said:
And it is all mostly ego struggles, I will agree with that....
But, whatcha~ gonna~ dew~....?
Well, it was a slow day in here... so I made a thread to bitch about it.
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PhanTomCat
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: Cervantes]
#8572712 - 06/27/08 10:08 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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Seems like the last two days have been slow here....
It is nothing like it was a few years ago, it was really "hopping" back then....
There was always a minimum of 20-25 people in here at all times....
Now it is like 5-10 at a given time.... 
It does get "boring" when nobody says anything....
But then, I just go find something else to do - off of the computer....
Which, is kinda~ a good thing.... 
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: PhanTomCat]
#8572746 - 06/27/08 10:26 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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There was always a minimum of 20-25 people in here at all times....
I had at least five puppet accounts then.
Lord, I miss the glory days. 
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PhanTomCat
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Why would you have needed puppet accounts....?
Afterall, you had already controlled everyone with your powers of the mind....!? 
Unless you meant that they were your puppets....
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fresh313
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: PhanTomCat]
#8573009 - 06/27/08 11:59 PM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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how many times can you split an online personality ?
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figmentfragment
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: fresh313]
#8573025 - 06/28/08 12:09 AM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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what I would like to know is: how many online personalities can fit on the head of a pin?
hm???
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: fresh313]
#8573529 - 06/28/08 06:18 AM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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on line personalities can be very fluid.
like mercury
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zouden
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Mercury poisoning affects the mind and makes you say things like "we are all one"
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: Cervantes]
#8573597 - 06/28/08 07:39 AM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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Cervantes said:
Buddhism, far too often, leads people down a path of holier-than-thou stagnation.
Too bad.
Buddhism is a beautiful philosophy... but how it is applied by SO MANY hippies... especially around here... Oy! It makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
Another thing we have in common. They are everywhere around here. I don't get why a white convert needs to go around here wearing those funny robes. It's like a fucking martial art.
The psychology around what the Buddha discovered was truly a boon for mankind. Then of course the priests came along. Now there is so much junk to believe one has no time for the noble truths.
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: Icelander]
#8573633 - 06/28/08 07:56 AM (2 months, 9 days ago) |
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priests make me sick
especially when they carry dictionaries to kareoke
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They do. That's funny.
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
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Cervantes
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: Icelander]
#8574417 - 06/28/08 02:01 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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Buddhism is most effectively taught through physical work... yoga, tai-chi, meditation... hell, even tripping.
If you take the body out of it... Buddhism just lives in the mind... and it is no more or less real than any other theology.
If you work on your body AND your mind... you'll find Buddhism is a nice road map... but you still have to work within the laws of nature and physics in order to excel at yoga, meditation, tai-chi or tripping.
It is counter to this beautiful philosophy to put on robes and preach. Better to sit on top of a mountain and wait for others to come to you... no?
Then there are the "New Agers"... what a bunch of whack-jobs! They pick and choose the parts of Buddhism that serve them. They do this to help sell trinkets, shiny rocks and previously viewed copies of "The Secret". And all the while, they are preaching the 'Truth' to their sheep.
I swear, this month... I have had more people trying to preach the truth to me. Like I have never heard of the The New Age Bastardization of Buddhist philosophy. Like I am incapable of understanding it!
The problem is; these 'New Age' people are my future in-laws... and I can't really explain to them my Psychonautical experience... not without causing my fiance some embarrassment.
They have never put their philosophy into their bodies. They have never learned to let go.
They just preach the 'truth'... like I am incapable of understanding it.
It is like they think I am deaf or retarded... so they talk extra slow and loud... ya' know?
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Zen and the Art of Bullshit [Re: Cervantes]
#8574456 - 06/28/08 02:15 PM (2 months, 8 days ago) |
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It is like they think I am deaf or retarded..
Which is it? 
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Cervantes
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What?
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. -Inigo Montoya
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