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 F1234K
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 Re: Mushroom experience compared to LSD experience  [Re: shadowed]
#8568392 - 06/26/08 06:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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These are my opinions
Mushrooms
-More of a body high
-Visuals are more natural and flowy
-easyer come down
Acid
-Body high is not as huge but your mind seems to think in weird ways.
-Visuals are more patterns overtop of things rather then shapes bending and flowing.
-Come down seems a bit more tense
I find acid can make you double check things more like once I was running by the main door of a rave and thought I saw a car crashed into it and dead people on the hood and lots of blood and I looked back and it was all normal.
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Edited by F1234K (06/26/08 06:32 PM)
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yageman
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Re: Mushroom experience compared to LSD experience [Re: shadowed]
#8568463 - 06/26/08 06:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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plasmid has a lizard brain.....maybe?
I have heard this all before.
I think he did play cards with people who were not there, hell, this guy is pretty persistant/pissy and even if he said he hugs up on pink elephants Id rather believe him than bitch with him about stuff I dont care about.
If the only difference for him is duration then let him honestly feel that way. I dont think he is bullshitting.
I think his observations say alot about him, and I think he got a bit pissed of because people were basically telling him that he is weird, which he is.
I mean, nn-dmt is actually alot like mushrooms IMO. They are like best friends, but I can tell the difference between the two VERY easily.
I think what alot of people were trying to say is that they are very different for most people.
I mean, the cognitive structures are different, the visuals are different.
Kind of like, well, the way the mind works is totally different though it may lead to, or touch on some of the same subjects/alot of the same subjects.
The climb to the peak is enough for me to say they are entirely different, and the duration too.
lsd= orderly, acute angles, straight lines, sharp shapes throughout the mind and body. Pointed
Mushrooms= Circular visuals, chain links(like lsd but a bit more slimey and know no bounds), and the mandala becomes a different sort of vortex. Very fucking circular when compared to lsd.
Visuals are sort of an expression of what your mind is doing if you know what I mean.
I think they are so very different in about a million other harder to describe ways, honestly.
I think the mind is so complex, that people just have a hard time believing that a person like plasmid exists.
I think he is mad that people may or may not be saying in a round about way, that he is very simple, or maybe even sort of a dumb guy.
I wont judge the guy, Im just trying to shed some light on his defensive attitude.
I guess Ill believe in plasmid.
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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
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peterluber
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Re: how do the hallucinations compare [Re: Plasmid]
#8568530 - 06/26/08 07:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mushrooms seem to be more intoxicating, and less functional. The patterns are very organic, and I often experience more extreme distortions in time and space. You tend to see the ultimate truth in everything, in a sometimes disturbing way. Mushrooms provide a trip with one main peak, where if you start feeling anxious or anything on the way up, it just gets worse the whole trip. However, LSD comes in waves, so if you are apprehensive at first, you get more chances to get your shit together. LSD visuals tend to be more geometric and artificial, like a city, where as mushroom visuals are like the woods. Mushrooms are great for a first trip, if you just read up on them so you feel confident and secure, and then just let yourself go and have a happy adventure on them.
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aiyobro
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Re: how do the hallucinations compare [Re: peterluber]
#8568582 - 06/26/08 07:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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LSD to me is a dissolvin emotional roller coaster dragged down by they very idea of negative thought
Shrooms to me teach you to appraciate that thought no matter how dark or provocking it could be, shrooms teach me to be thankful lsd teached me i dont know shit, but i might as well have been some sort of god the way things looked, the idea that im alive is a mindfuck after looking through a different and alien perspective
society is befitting to say the least
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jellyfish
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Re: how do the hallucinations compare [Re: peterluber]
#8568594 - 06/26/08 07:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shrooms usually has me in a bit of a mental fog. The hallucinations are usually based on patterns and some simple tasks become impossible to do due to the confusion. On shrooms I feel like a part of nature. My self image gets all distorted and I feel like a hobbit is the best way I can describe it. I just feel smaller and hairier, and more mammal. Also I find the come up intensely uncomfortable but the come down is pleasant (sometimes I get a headache though) On acid the hallucinations are insane. I see stuff that's just not there, but it doesn't scare me. I have (or seem to have) a smarter mind than I do sober if it didn't keep racing and changing to different topics I think I could actually do calculus. LSD feels pretty spiritual as well. I spent a lot of a trip walking in the heat sweating buckets and for some strange reason I felt like Jesus. Like I just wanted to get disciples and dose them and share the awakening that my mind just experienced. I've only done acid one time so I might not give the best opinion but I've done shrooms 17 times. There is also some depth to the trip that shrooms lack. I can't pinpoint it but there seems to be a whole realm or dimension that is just not there. It might have to do with the dopamine, I felt like there were electric pulses going through my mind. I get insomnia easily so my LSD comedown was not fun as I went the whole night without sleep and felt like shit the next day.
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yageman
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Re: how do the hallucinations compare [Re: jellyfish]
#8568623 - 06/26/08 07:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
jellyfish said:
Shrooms usually has me in a bit of a mental fog. The hallucinations are usually based on patterns and some simple tasks become impossible to do due to the confusion. On shrooms I feel like a part of nature. My self image gets all distorted and I feel like a hobbit is the best way I can describe it. I just feel smaller and hairier, and more mammal. Also I find the come up intensely uncomfortable but the come down is pleasant (sometimes I get a headache though) On acid the hallucinations are insane. I see stuff that's just not there, but it doesn't scare me. I have (or seem to have) a smarter mind than I do sober if it didn't keep racing and changing to different topics I think I could actually do calculus. LSD feels pretty spiritual as well. I spent a lot of a trip walking in the heat sweating buckets and for some strange reason I felt like Jesus. Like I just wanted to get disciples and dose them and share the awakening that my mind just experienced. I've only done acid one time so I might not give the best opinion but I've done shrooms 17 times. There is also some depth to the trip that shrooms lack. I can't pinpoint it but there seems to be a whole realm or dimension that is just not there. It might have to do with the dopamine, I felt like there were electric pulses going through my mind. I get insomnia easily so my LSD comedown was not fun as I went the whole night without sleep and felt like shit the next day.
Interesting post.
I could see it working that way for alot of people.
I seen it.
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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material. No 'thing' fixes any situation. If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.
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squiddog
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Re: how do the hallucinations compare [Re: Plasmid]
#8569346 - 06/26/08 10:22 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmmm... let met take a shot.
Shrooms are like Dali's earlier works:
Acid was more vivid, clearly defined, like Dali's late r works:
and
I was much more sensitive to geometric patterns on acid. Mushrooms were more distorted, wavy visuals and imagery.
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squiddog
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Re: how do the hallucinations compare [Re: squiddog]
#8569348 - 06/26/08 10:23 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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btw, I'm not religious, I just find Dali's work interesting.
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tyler_0_durden
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Re: how do the hallucinations compare [Re: jellyfish]
#8569469 - 06/26/08 11:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
jellyfish said:
Shrooms usually has me in a bit of a mental fog. The hallucinations are usually based on patterns and some simple tasks become impossible to do due to the confusion. On shrooms I feel like a part of nature. My self image gets all distorted and I feel like a hobbit is the best way I can describe it. I just feel smaller and hairier, and more mammal. Also I find the come up intensely uncomfortable but the come down is pleasant (sometimes I get a headache though) On acid the hallucinations are insane. I see stuff that's just not there, but it doesn't scare me. I have (or seem to have) a smarter mind than I do sober if it didn't keep racing and changing to different topics I think I could actually do calculus. LSD feels pretty spiritual as well. I spent a lot of a trip walking in the heat sweating buckets and for some strange reason I felt like Jesus. Like I just wanted to get disciples and dose them and share the awakening that my mind just experienced. I've only done acid one time so I might not give the best opinion but I've done shrooms 17 times. There is also some depth to the trip that shrooms lack. I can't pinpoint it but there seems to be a whole realm or dimension that is just not there. It might have to do with the dopamine, I felt like there were electric pulses going through my mind. I get insomnia easily so my LSD comedown was not fun as I went the whole night without sleep and felt like shit the next day.
Yeah when I'm on shrooms I see myself growing older and progressing in age getting more hairy and smaller...it's strange. But on acid I just feel like a deity. Like I am in connect with part of a universal consciousness and I'm kind of sucking a little more out of it than everyone else.
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jellyfish
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Re: how do the hallucinations compare [Re: tyler_0_durden]
#8570572 - 06/27/08 09:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, I forgot to mention that although I feel bigger and more powerful on lsd and smaller and hairier on shrooms, I took a shower on my acid trip and when I saw myself in the mirror I pretty much saw myself how I see myself on shrooms. Like when I look at one part of my body it starts to shrink away. It's hard to explain but there's a really big underlying similarity between the two feelings I just can't really explain what it is.
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ikkes
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Re: how do the hallucinations compare [Re: jellyfish]
#8570635 - 06/27/08 10:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm reading these kind of reactions more and more.....
LSD gives you a more clear head experience.
lsd much better to control
Shrooms are a much brute or stronger trip...
Although it's the experiences Of people I've talked to that kept me away from acid. They say exactly the opposite.
A reason for me to stick to shrooms.
Of all the trips on shrooms I've done, on cubes I never have the feeling I'm out of control... can switch to a sober resembling state in case of emergency (let's say talking to the police because we were producing a lot of noise). Visuals stop at wavy vision maybe also some patterns forming out of nowhere.
Only a triple portion of copes.... I honestly have to say, laying on the flour watching the Muppet show was the only thing we did do that evening, and also the only thing that I was able to day at the time... Waited for about 4hrs before I could even stand up.
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Re: how do the hallucinations compare [Re: ikkes]
#8570706 - 06/27/08 10:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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TheBulb2005 informs me that if I say that the first powerful psychedelic trip I had was on LSD and not shrooms then that is why I experience them as being the same. He says that this is something he's noticed in many people and has "verified" himself.
So, how many of you out there who experience LSD and shrooms as being significantly different tried LSD first?
FYI, I don't buy a word of Bulb's "explanation" nor do I think that most people who had a heavy trip off LSD before shrooms will see them as being (nearly) identical.
Bulb reported that he first did shrooms and then, after, had a strong LSD trip and noticed how different the drugs were. Then, he says, after returning to shrooms, he found them essentially exactly the same.
Again, I don't think Bulb's generalization is remotely correct and I refused to answer his "which did you take first" because I won't give data to someone with such a weak hypothesis (it's not even a hypothesis; he just notes that a correlation exists in his experience - that people who had heavy LSD trips first find LSD and shrooms similar - and that's it - no explanation).
Bulb, if you'd care to try explaining why this might be the case, then go ahead and I might answer your question.
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LSDreamer
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Re: how do the hallucinations compare [Re: Plasmid]
#8570883 - 06/27/08 11:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I tried LSD first and still find them very different.
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