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 stoner42069
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 contam?
#8562039 - 06/25/08 11:08 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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this is my first grow Im using WBS, but the past week or so it has been devloping a milky looking liquid.
Does it look like contam to you guys?
EDIT: it's not letting me upload a pic so heres the link
http://img241.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0026ps3.jpg
Edited by stoner42069 (06/25/08 11:17 AM)
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endepth
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Smell that jar, and you will have your answer.
Better luck next time. 
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numonkei
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 Re: contam? [Re: endepth]
#8564368 - 06/25/08 09:05 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Dude, you MUST upload the image.
We don't like outside links. They hurt our computer, and this guys ^(you, end, bats) avatar hurts our monitors. I KNOW i'm not the only one whose hit their screem thinking that shit was a shroom gnat!
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pazzy
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That jar is very contaminated better luck next time.
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numonkei said:
I KNOW i'm not the only one whose hit their screem thinking that shit was a shroom gnat!
I thought I was the only one.
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Sakyr
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Re: contam? [Re: pazzy]
#8564524 - 06/25/08 09:49 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Dude, that is totally bacillus.....
Ive been fighting against it for about 4 months ._.
Finally I solved the problem....
Good luck 
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endepth
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Quote:
numonkei said:
Dude, you MUST upload the image.
We don't like outside links. They hurt our computer, and this guys ^(you, end, bats) avatar hurts our monitors. I KNOW i'm not the only one whose hit their screem thinking that shit was a shroom gnat!
~Monk
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The shroomy 1
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Quote:
numonkei said:
Dude, you MUST upload the image.
We don't like outside links. They hurt our computer, and this guys ^(you, end, bats) avatar hurts our monitors. I KNOW i'm not the only one whose hit their screem thinking that shit was a shroom gnat!
~Monk
Here is the link to when I first mentioned those damn bats!! This is hilarious!
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/8531496#8531496
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stoner42069
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Sorry about the link, when I went to upload the pic it went up but when I hit continue the image wasn't showing up in the post, so only thing to do was post a link.
well there goes all my jars then(8 total).
I don't get it I went NUTS sterilizing everything in site. the grow is in my closet, so I kinda figured I would be pretty safe against contams. Could it be that I'm incubating at too high of a temp? min in the box has been 72.7F max has been 83.8F I would say it's usually hanging around the 80-82 mark most days.
oh and i did smell the one and it pretty much just smelt like WBS just with a sharper scent.
Thanks for helping out a newbie grower guys, i've learned a lot from this site.
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pazzy
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If you are sterilizing correctly the contamination is either introduced by poor sterile inoculation technique or from a contaminated spore syringe.
High incubation temps will hard mycelium but not trigger contamination.
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Re: contam? [Re: Sakyr]
#8586465 - 07/02/08 12:26 AM (3 months, 5 days ago) |
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Quote:
Sakyr said:
Dude, that is totally bacillus.....
Ive been fighting against it for about 4 months ._.
Finally I solved the problem....
Good luck
What did you do to solve the problem?
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Re: contam? [Re: gubi]
#8588116 - 07/02/08 03:03 PM (3 months, 4 days ago) |
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What Im doing now, and not sure if its works (its kind of experimenting fighting) is to leave the jars with grain and water over the top for one day @25ºC, then wash it with fresh water, cook the grain for about 20-40 mins, let it dry via vapour and finally PC.
That way, u germinate the bacillus endospores and then u killed them in PC.
Sorry for my english man, and hope its usefull to you...
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Re: contam? [Re: Sakyr]
#8589826 - 07/02/08 11:33 PM (3 months, 4 days ago) |
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That's how I did my last / 1st batch and I got the milky liquid. Trying it again tomorrow a different way. I'm determined to get it right!
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The shroomy 1
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Re: contam? [Re: gubi]
#8590127 - 07/03/08 12:59 AM (3 months, 4 days ago) |
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When you let the grain sit for 24 hours then simmer it for 20-40 minutes, you have to thoroughly rinse it and let it drain for another 24 hours! Those grains are going to be completely saturated to the point of bursting if they haven't already. They need to really be moist to the touch, not mushy or "wet". Then, and only then do you proceed to the pressure cooking step. Kind of like this......
Soak for 24 hours..
Simmer for 20 minutes..
rinse, rinse, rinse the simmered grain. 
get ready to drain... 
rinse, rinse, rinse some more..
cover and let drain for AT LEAST 24 HOURS.  
After 24 hours, load your jars... 
pressure cook at 15psi for 90 minutes. Inoculate the next day after all your jars have cooled. Then in two weeks your jars should at least look like this!
No Bacillus!
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gubi
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Wow shroomy, never have I seen it take so long for WBS to be prepared (2 days). But if you say it works, I will begin tonight!
The test batch I just did I followed someone else's write up to see if it works. I soaked for about 8 hours then boiled some water, turned off stove and added the WBS and let steam with the lid on for an hour or so. Rinsed very well, drained for about 30 mins till no water was dripping out, and loaded them up. Only tested 2 jars so if it doesn't work out, no big loss.
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The shroomy 1
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Re: contam? [Re: gubi]
#8591249 - 07/03/08 11:26 AM (3 months, 3 days ago) |
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Yea, I'm pretty much a patient person in this hobby. I work at least 11 hours a day, so the steps I take usually are in 24 hour increments. I have to sleep you know! I'm not saying that my way is "The" way, I'm just putting out something that has worked for me for a long time. There's times that I have the prepped jars sitting and waiting to be inoculated for 2 weeks and still they're good.
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beengonetoolong
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that is disgusting 
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Sakyr
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Thanks a lot for your tek shroomy!
I do have a question..... Could the bacillus endospores be on the jars waiting to be used? I mean when the jars are empty.
Or just washing them with soap and bb bacillus?
Thanks a lot with the help ^^
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The shroomy 1
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Re: contam? [Re: Sakyr]
#8593458 - 07/03/08 11:30 PM (3 months, 3 days ago) |
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It really doesn't matter if they are there or not. I always run my jars in the dishwasher right before I start loading them with grain. Either way, you're going to PC them. No worries.
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Quote:
beengonetoolong said:
that is disgusting
Disgustingly good!
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