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 Chemy
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 Re: War with Iran in the next 6 months? [Re: C.M. Mann]
#8487805 - 06/05/08 10:35 AM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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C.M. Mann said:
When I saw your links I knew that you base your knowledge on this subject on completely fabricated propaganda. I wouldn't believe anything time magazine had to say! They will probably make YOU their person of the year. There are many very honest blogs by some American military members, maybe you should expand your reading material to include reality. ..............................If your mind was not clouded by hatred for the United States of America, you could easily find the truth but you are not looking! I don't need to prove this to you, just like I don't need to prove two plus two equals four. .................................................... I was in the Middle East and N.Africa for ten years, and I lived in Iran for a year. Do not assume that you know more than the next person, untill you have read two new books by (Lawrence Freedman and Aaron David Miller ) Look at the world the way it is, not the way you want it to be. .........................................................If you want to learn about Iran start in the 17th C. when the Shiite's lost Mesopatamia.
CM Mann, could you please post a list of trustworthy news agencies so I or anyone that cares will not post any information from these news agencies that "completely fabricate" propaganda.
Thank you for your time.
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Re: War with Iran in the next 6 months? [Re: C.M. Mann]
#8489210 - 06/05/08 04:54 PM (2 months, 30 days ago) |
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C.M. Mann said:
When I saw your links I knew that you base your knowledge on this subject on completely fabricated propaganda. I wouldn't believe anything time magazine had to say! They will probably make YOU their person of the year. There are many very honest blogs by some American military members, maybe you should expand your reading material to include reality. ..............................If your mind was not clouded by hatred for the United States of America, you could easily find the truth but you are not looking! I don't need to prove this to you, just like I don't need to prove two plus two equals four. .................................................... I was in the Middle East and N.Africa for ten years, and I lived in Iran for a year. Do not assume that you know more than the next person, untill you have read two new books by (Lawrence Freedman and Aaron David Miller ) Look at the world the way it is, not the way you want it to be. .........................................................If you want to learn about Iran start in the 17th C. when the Shiite's lost Mesopatamia.
Please refute the information supplied. Denying the messenger doesn't make the information found within it false.
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Disco Cat
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Re: War with Iran in the next 6 months? [Re: C.M. Mann]
#8510123 - 06/11/08 05:39 AM (2 months, 24 days ago) |
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C.M. Mann said:
When I saw your links I knew that you base your knowledge on this subject on completely fabricated propaganda. I wouldn't believe anything time magazine had to say! They will probably make YOU their person of the year. There are many very honest blogs by some American military members, maybe you should expand your reading material to include reality. ..............................If your mind was not clouded by hatred for the United States of America, you could easily find the truth but you are not looking! I don't need to prove this to you, just like I don't need to prove two plus two equals four. .................................................... I was in the Middle East and N.Africa for ten years, and I lived in Iran for a year. Do not assume that you know more than the next person, untill you have read two new books by (Lawrence Freedman and Aaron David Miller ) Look at the world the way it is, not the way you want it to be. .........................................................If you want to learn about Iran start in the 17th C. when the Shiite's lost Mesopatamia.
Unfortunately, you have maligned the definition of "propaganda," and the same is probably true for "fact," which the TIME article, and others I provided, is. The TIME article doesn't conjecture who is putting weapons in Iraq, it instead states the facts concerning the timeline of US accusations against Iran and spells out how much evidence has been presented to public and press to support these claims. That the weapons cache found in Brasa turned out to not be Iranian in origin is, again, a fact. To call such things propaganda is propaganda, and spells out severe dishonesty and simpleness of mind. What you're doing is, akin to a child sticking fingers in their ears because they don't like what they're hearing, not impressive.
>> Do not assume that you know more than the next person, untill you have read two new books by (Lawrence Freedman and Aaron David Miller ) Look at the world the way it is, not the way you want it to be. If you want to learn about Iran start in the 17th C. when the Shiite's lost Mesopatamia.
Dropping author names and a poorly chosen date, which are both entirely off-topic to the subject of the post (the validity and content of my provided links) to which you are replying, makes it look like you hope to connive people into accepting your position of holes through intimidation of knowledge, which you may be artful in concealing but probably just lack. Regardless, at whatever point you assumed yourself to be any type of authority on Iran, it was too soon.
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Chemy said:
CM Mann, could you please post a list of trustworthy news agencies so I or anyone that cares will not post any information from these news agencies that "completely fabricate" propaganda.
This is a part what puts CM Mann so outside of reality. The timeline of, and that there has been zero displayed evidence for, the US' accusations, isn't disputable. Likewise, the "Iranian" weapons found in Brasa turning out to not be Iranian is also just hard fact. Iraqi officials having voiced disagreement with US accusations is, again, truth. This CM Mann is calling reality "fabricated propaganda." Not a well thought out move.
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Edited by Disco Cat (06/11/08 06:12 AM)
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