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 Droz
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 Religious vs. Spiritual
#8444005 - 05/25/08 03:11 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Religious people are afraid of going to hell.
Spiritual people have been through hell.
Peace,
Droz
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: Droz]
#8444038 - 05/25/08 03:20 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Religious people look to find faith in something by means of prescribed doctrine to be led when they are lost.
Spiritual people have been lost to the point of finding a means to connect with the higher power, and as such, write their own doctrine.
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: Droz]
#8444043 - 05/25/08 03:22 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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droz;
that was pretty insightful
you are helping me with my bumperstickers.
I am always looking for very short sentences that say a great deal.
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: Droz]
#8444977 - 05/25/08 08:39 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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They are not always exclusive of each other, and merging occurs often.
The main drawback I feel from "Religion" as in "Organised" is the seeming rigidity of concept.
Spirituality, not exactly to definition, but my own understanding seems more natural.
I mostly find myself picking and choosing this part or that, amongst the current flow of belief to the archaic or the purely imagined, self visualised...when idea makes some neural/emotional or otherwise unexplainable connection.
Is that it though?
Rules vs non-rules - order vs chaos.
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hail discordia
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: nubious]
#8445179 - 05/25/08 09:45 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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"Take thee this thing covered with that stuff and give it unto that guy, that he may do things with it."
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: Droz]
#8445517 - 05/25/08 11:40 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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People are spiritual beings.
Some of us are also, religious.
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: Cervantes]
#8445749 - 05/26/08 01:15 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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I am quite spurious. 
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Quote:
figmentfragment said:
"Take thee this thing covered with that stuff and give it unto that guy, that he may do things with it."
can this be shortened a bit?
to be a bumper sticker it needs more punch.
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No. It must be explicit in its vagueness...
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unamerican.com says
"you are everyone"
to be as you are....
.....................is that to be spiritual?
spirituality is silly...Reality is what it's about.
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: MokshaIs]
#8446000 - 05/26/08 04:37 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
MokshaIs said:
unamerican.com says
"you are everyone"
to be as you are....
.....................is that to be spiritual?
spirituality is silly...Reality is what it's about.
Werd. Reality is where its at, reality being that nothing is really real. (reality for me anyway!)
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: nubious]
#8446376 - 05/26/08 09:11 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Where did the room, science & religion come from?
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eve69
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A DnD game?
Religion is best which eats itself at the end.
Spirituality is conceited materiality.
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: eve69]
#8446468 - 05/26/08 09:49 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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'spirituality is silly...Reality is what it's about.'
The reality of spirituality is what's needed.
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: nubious]
#8447484 - 05/26/08 03:25 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Quote:
nubious said:
Religious people look to find faith in something by means of prescribed doctrine to be led when they are lost.
Spiritual people have been lost to the point of finding a means to connect with the higher power, and as such, write their own doctrine.
I agree 
More people need to have more of an open mind. You can believe in whatever you want but shouldn't believe those "forces" are bias and selfishly believe they're 100% on your side. Technically, they are on your side, but to not understand or view this collective, as a whole, is where there seems to be a loss in translation.
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is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao ~Tao Te Ching/Daodejing
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: Cracka_X]
#8447856 - 05/26/08 05:14 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Again, people... in general we are ALL spiritual beings.
We, as humans have the capacity to believe in things we can't see, hold, hear or otherwise tangibly sense. For example, humans have the ability to imagine... and every imagined thing is a spiritual thing... until we use our CREATivity to make that imagined thing into reality.
So...
All humans are spiritual... unless they are severely brain damaged or dead.
Religious people on the other hand (and listen carefully folks 'cause a LOT of you don't seem to get this point) simply believe in a RELIGION.
That is all there is to it.
To review:
All humans are spiritual. We all have the capacity to believe in things that are not yet there. THIS post was spiritual until I typed it and posted it.
People who are RELIGIOus... are people who believe in a RELIGIOn.
Sure, there have been some cute bumper stickers posted in here... but they are all full of shit.
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Re: Religious vs. Spiritual [Re: Cervantes]
#8447926 - 05/26/08 05:26 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Got Manna??
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