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 guruu
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 Re: Fucking bitch [Re: shroom_me]
#8420547 - 05/19/08 03:42 PM (4 months, 16 days ago) |
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Yeah it would. But the best thing to do would be to live as if you didn't have cancer, because then your life would be happier. Why would you act in a way that makes you unhappy?
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shroom_me
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Re: Fucking bitch [Re: guruu]
#8420584 - 05/19/08 03:49 PM (4 months, 16 days ago) |
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guruu said:
Yeah it would. But the best thing to do would be to live as if you didn't have cancer, because then your life would be happier. Why would you act in a way that makes you unhappy?
I think your missing the point here. If we are only "animals" or "bacteria" and you were aware of this. How could you logically live your life and ever feel like people who think their above animals and that their existence really matters, or is even noticed in the end? Look into the sky and see all those other galaxies, then tell me your life really makes a difference when you look at the bigger picture. That idea alone warrants doubt, or at least some questions regarding human existence, and it's importance.
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TheHappieHippies
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Re: Fucking bitch [Re: shroom_me]
#8420642 - 05/19/08 04:03 PM (4 months, 16 days ago) |
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shroom_me said:
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guruu said:
Yeah it would. But the best thing to do would be to live as if you didn't have cancer, because then your life would be happier. Why would you act in a way that makes you unhappy?
I think your missing the point here. If we are only "animals" or "bacteria" and you were aware of this. How could you logically live your life and ever feel like people who think their above animals and that their existence really matters, or is even noticed in the end? Look into the sky and see all those other galaxies, then tell me your life really makes a difference when you look at the bigger picture. That idea alone warrants doubt, or at least some questions regarding human existence, and it's importance.
I love looking at the universe. It is awfully beautiful huh? Some of those other galaxies are just crazy to see.
Oh, and my life really makes a difference. And I don't just mean to my kids, or my husband. I believe full-heartedly that my life makes a difference to the universe. And furthermore, I believe YOUR life makes a difference to the universe. For what it's worth, I hope you can look past your preoccupation with the meaning of your life, and get on with giving your life meaning. 
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shroom_me
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shroom_me said:
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guruu said:
Yeah it would. But the best thing to do would be to live as if you didn't have cancer, because then your life would be happier. Why would you act in a way that makes you unhappy?
I think your missing the point here. If we are only "animals" or "bacteria" and you were aware of this. How could you logically live your life and ever feel like people who think their above animals and that their existence really matters, or is even noticed in the end? Look into the sky and see all those other galaxies, then tell me your life really makes a difference when you look at the bigger picture. That idea alone warrants doubt, or at least some questions regarding human existence, and it's importance.
I love looking at the universe. It is awfully beautiful huh? Some of those other galaxies are just crazy to see.
Oh, and my life really makes a difference. And I don't just mean to my kids, or my husband. I believe full-heartedly that my life makes a difference to the universe. And furthermore, I believe YOUR life makes a difference to the universe. For what it's worth, I hope you can look past your preoccupation with the meaning of your life, and get on with giving your life meaning.
I appreciate the kind comments. But I couldn't help but think about what you said there and wonder how you could know your life is affecting the universe? That sounds alot like your ego to me, which is what I am trying to get at, the ego is what blinds us from the truth. Humans, after all are self serving, and self sustaining individuals. So I guess it doesn't really surprise me that your ego kicked in there, you just couldn't help it. It's ok I understand. Still doesn't change a damn thing!
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 Locus
Playing With Fire
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Re: Fucking bitch [Re: shroom_me]
#8420999 - 05/19/08 05:39 PM (4 months, 16 days ago) |
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hey shroom me, my sign is gemini  ... what do you think about that... you didnt expect that did you?
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The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. ~ Albert Einstein
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makaveli8x8
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Re: Fucking bitch [Re: Locus]
#8421057 - 05/19/08 05:57 PM (4 months, 16 days ago) |
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they play a role and we play a role. the question is what is our role, are we more important alive?
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guruu
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Re: Fucking bitch [Re: shroom_me]
#8421058 - 05/19/08 05:57 PM (4 months, 16 days ago) |
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shroom_me said:
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guruu said:
Yeah it would. But the best thing to do would be to live as if you didn't have cancer, because then your life would be happier. Why would you act in a way that makes you unhappy?
I think your missing the point here. If we are only "animals" or "bacteria" and you were aware of this. How could you logically live your life and ever feel like people who think their above animals and that their existence really matters, or is even noticed in the end? Look into the sky and see all those other galaxies, then tell me your life really makes a difference when you look at the bigger picture. That idea alone warrants doubt, or at least some questions regarding human existence, and it's importance.
Yeah, when I look into the universe I DO realize how insignificant I am. But I'm part of that universe. I'm continuous with it. The elements that now compose me were created in the first primordial stars. When I look at it from that perspective, universal "significance" just doesn't matter at all.
Plus, even when looked at from a more mundane perspective, I don't need to be important to the universe. It's the same thing on our planet. We're all just one of billions of people. We don't matter. If we died, less than 1 percent of 1 percent of the world's population would even hear about it. But that doesn't bother me at all. The best you can do is just not worry about it, and concentrate on your own life.
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TheHappieHippies
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Re: Fucking bitch [Re: shroom_me]
#8421489 - 05/19/08 07:40 PM (4 months, 16 days ago) |
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shroom_me said:Quote:
I appreciate the kind comments. But I couldn't help but think about what you said there and wonder how you could know your life is affecting the universe? That sounds alot like your ego to me, which is what I am trying to get at, the ego is what blinds us from the truth. Humans, after all are self serving, and self sustaining individuals. So I guess it doesn't really surprise me that your ego kicked in there, you just couldn't help it. It's ok I understand. Still doesn't change a damn thing!
Well, my experiences ARE subjective. But I have learned from them. What I have learned is: Believing something is magic. Particularly beliefs about my SELF. At one point in my life, the only person I was close to told me I was useless, and the moment I believed him, I became useless. It's the self-fulfilling prophecy that we as humans are particularly vulnerable to. Your assertion that humans are all self serving gives you a built in excuse for not making a difference to this existence.
I am not a scientist by any means, more of a science enthusiast. But, I read this book once, some theories associated with the theory of relativity, and my understanding, is that EVERYTHING is related. That EVERYTHING affected EVERYTHING else. I don't see how humans can be an exception to EVERYTHING.
Bottom line is, you are here. There really is no proof on either side of this debate. If you think that it is pointless for you to be here, and that you cannot affect the universe in a positive way, then you surely won't. Maybe, just maybe it is possible for humans to positively affect the universe, and my belief that I can and am, brings me that much closer to achieving it if it is possible.
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shroom_me
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hey you were right LOCUS I wasnt expecting your sign to be gemini, but i have found gemini's to be open minded, so. And THEHAPPIEHIPPIES you do make an excellent point, maybe I'm just losing my mind in a world that never really cared about me  Not to be dramatic, but it is in fact a fact. I don't wanna complain but has anyone else had this experience?
It seems like all the friends I ever had werent really there for me like I was for them, and in fact they used me and when they no longer had anything to take they would ditch me, this is true of the women in my life as well, and family. I know what your thinking, but I'm dead serious. I'm literally losing it. I at this point have the same routine, I go to work and come home to be all alone, thats it!! Everyone that was my friend either hates me, or doesnt talk to me much. I just can't figure out how to change my situation is all.
And I don't wanna be all morbid, but suicide has crossed my mind, many times. What should I do? Any thoughts?
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mattman
nerd in training
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...EVERYTHING is related. That EVERYTHING affected EVERYTHING else. I don't see how humans can be an exception to EVERYTHING.
I think thats called the butterfly effect
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shroom_me
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Re: Fucking bitch [Re: mattman]
#8422411 - 05/19/08 10:54 PM (4 months, 16 days ago) |
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mattman said:
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...EVERYTHING is related. That EVERYTHING affected EVERYTHING else. I don't see how humans can be an exception to EVERYTHING.
I think thats called the butterfly effect
I think it's called the fantasy land you live in in preschool.
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TheHappieHippies
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Re: Fucking bitch [Re: shroom_me]
#8423318 - 05/20/08 07:41 AM (4 months, 16 days ago) |
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shroom_me said: maybe I'm just losing my mind in a world that never really cared about me Not to be dramatic, but it is in fact a fact. I don't wanna complain but has anyone else had this experience?
It seems like all the friends I ever had werent really there for me like I was for them, and in fact they used me and when they no longer had anything to take they would ditch me, this is true of the women in my life as well, and family. I know what your thinking, but I'm dead serious. I'm literally losing it. I at this point have the same routine, I go to work and come home to be all alone, thats it!! Everyone that was my friend either hates me, or doesnt talk to me much. I just can't figure out how to change my situation is all.
And I don't wanna be all morbid, but suicide has crossed my mind, many times. What should I do? Any thoughts?
It sounds like shit is rough for you. I'm only 27, but I have lived a long 27 years. I attempted suicide twice, (for similar reasons I might add) both times chance kept me alive. I should be dead. Only within the last 4 years have I found out that there really was more to life then being used up by those around me. Some people live "normal" lives, never questioning anything, or contemplating the meanings behind it all. (I envy those people to some extent. How easy life must be for them) But then there are people like most of us here in the shroomery. We are willing to look beyond our selves, beyond the neighborhood we live in and out into the universe. Unfortunately, we see some pretty messed up stuff out there. We see damages being done on a global level, we see people living selfishly regardless of the effects on the people around them, or the impact on the world they are making. If we look even farther we see the universe. It is huge, and makes us feel insignificant. It is beautiful, and makes our human existence seem filthy. This is a harsh reality for our lives. I convinced myself that humans mean nothing, and are insignificant, because believing the opposite is scary. Thinking that the atrocities perpetrated by humans might have a significant impact on this thing of beauty we have named the universe, makes things seem hopeless. Yet, for me at least, realizing that we DO make an impact leaves a small space for HOPE. Throughout history, back in the days of Greek Gods, in the bible, in the heart of the man we know as Buddha, we find HOPE for the human race. There is a lot of horrible realities in this existence but, there is also hope.
I think from what you've said that you are at the point where truth is sinking in. The awful truth about human nature and our seeming insignificance. My hope for you is that you will keep looking, keep seeking truth. Somewhere along the way, should you keep on, you will find a reason for you to hope too. Hope keeps me alive.   
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shroom_me
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God damn. that shit touched me, seriously. Not to be rude, I am just curious you said you attempted suicide twice what did you do? I myself haven't consciously attempted before, though I have overdosed on purpose to get fucked up bad, not intentionally trying to kill myself. a strange thing that happens when ever i am that close to death, I am not afraid, I in fact feel free and happy, and from the few times I've been that close to death I wanted to go, and was very upset when I awoke alive. I have found happiness in the past (was madly in love) during that time I still felt the same, honestly since my near death experience I actually want to die more.
And it's not cause of my shitty life that I really wanna die, not really at all. Something about being free of all problems, all pain, all physical mass feels so free, so perfect. I have had ego death as well and felt it too. In fact the first time I achieved ego death was on DXM I almost died (did a 4th plateau trip for first time) It's strange now too, cuz whenever now I have a cold and take cough medicine(dxm) I can actually get high from the standard dose. I did that shit at 300-1000 mg almost constantly for 1 year straight pretty much.
Not to brag I just feel that giving the details there is relevant to what I'm trying to express here. Anyways.
Edited by shroom_me (05/21/08 02:16 AM)
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TheHappieHippies
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Re: Fucking bitch [Re: shroom_me]
#8427928 - 05/21/08 09:05 AM (4 months, 15 days ago) |
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I'll pm it to ya, we've already completely hi-jacked this thread...
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Chroniffer
I got thesecheeseburgersman..
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Re: Fucking bitch [Re: shroom_me]
#8428190 - 05/21/08 10:25 AM (4 months, 15 days ago) |
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lol. yeah the boobies were nice but after awhile especially with this last bitch it really didnt seem worth it. I mean she was a BITCH!! Funny how they come to you in disguise, all pretty and smart and shit. Then you fuck em and suddenly their a wilderbeast!!
lmao. So true.
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