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GIVAT ZEEV, West Bank -- Under a scorching May sun, workers chip away at a cliff that will soon yield to a settlement for ultra-Orthodox Jews.

A few miles away, Jewish families prepare to move into new homes with sweeping views of a verdant West Bank valley. And in an East Jerusalem neighborhood that has long been a heart of Palestinian life, settlers are figuring out how to transform a former police station into a new community.

Despite Israeli commitments to end settlement expansion, both planning and construction are moving forward every day across the West Bank and East Jerusalem. In the six months since negotiations resumed between Israel and the Palestinians, settlements have remained a sore point.

To Palestinians, the expansion of settlements represents proof that Israel is not serious about wanting a deal. Palestinian Authority leaders say settlement construction undermines their position of talking with Israel, rather than fighting it, and gives ammunition to extremists.

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But to Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and his allies, the construction is simply a matter of the Jewish state putting to good use land it will inevitably control under a future agreement.

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leftysurprise said:
oh and i noticed some people further up in the thread mentioned being of jewish ethnicity and jewish blood, ive done a little bit of reading on the subject of the KHAZARS and their connection to the jews of today. i find it pretty believable that there are very few actual ETHNIC jews of biblical lore around today, the majority of jews that are alive today are direct descendents to the KHAZARS which happen to be a people that originate in the caucus mountains somewhere around turkey somewhere around the 4-5th century ACE. could the whole "ethnic" jew argument be a big scam that dates back nearly 2000 years?


what are your opinions on this? as with most things i am not sold on it completely, i like to leave some room for correction. and i dont want to just hear simple retorts like downforpot seems to enjoy.


here is a link to some quick info on it, there can be much more found on the subject by googling Khazar jews.

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misterdogman said:
All you want me to do is provide links or info to support what you cannot find for yourself, I aint doing your fucking research for you, look it up and youll see what I am saying...we did to have EVERYTHING to do with creating israel and if you dont think the Talmud is as important as I say go look at every law and right passed by jews in history and youll see it is in hand with it...dont dilute yourself your a smart guy so use your brain, jews christians buddists muslims all have a agenda and the Jews are the farthest along with theirs....also to support my remark about it going on in our country,,,if you cant see this country is run by jews from congress to media to hollywood ...your fucking blind and dont need a link to see it...

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I've found the bullshit websites that say exactly what you are saying. I want you to post the "evidence" because I know you will most likely provide me with Nazi websites.

We have everything to do with creating Israel? Are you saying that the US was the first and foremost power to help Israel?

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:


And third, Israel is an apartheid state, just like South Africa. I don't want Israel "wiped off the map", but quite frankly it's a fucked up government in terrible need of reform.


The world needs to stop making excuses for Zionist genocide of Palestinians!

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You have a real bad habit of fucking doing that and need to quit. Like I have told you your a smart kid so use it and debate without resorting to belittling or name calling. If someone asks ?s about evolution you go off and call them fundies or creationists when you dont even know what they believe and if someone mentions something about Jews now you call them a Nazi. Well to let you know I never would disgrace myself by going to a site like that and reading their propaganda.

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ummagumma said:
Excuse me Who the hell do you think you are
Firstly I do not have any problem with Jews. I have a big problem with Zionism.I have never abused you like you have to me. It just proves what a vicious vile piece of filth you are learningtofly
For any one who would like to know more about Zionism Read a book called: Controversy of Zionism by Douglas Reed.
last but not least and I wont vile myself to your ground dirt attitude Learningtofly and to thinking that Israel does not control America.Ignorance is your Bliss
Your the enermy of within
I whole heartly support DR Davidduke. www.davidduke.com

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ummagumma said:
Sure no problem Some people on hear are obviously against Freedom of speech Which is really sad

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No one here is against freedom of speech, we are against anti-semitism and racism, if you want to bash Jews or other races without confrontation, why don't you go to stormfront or similar website and state your hatred there