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 shroomzey
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 What is the potential production of a given space?
#8411746 - 05/17/08 02:04 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Hey, yes Im new to the ever knowledgeable and interesting hobby of mushroom growing, but some information that I havent been able to find yet without having to go through the physical trial and error is this:
In a given amount of space, how much dry weight in shrooms could be produced? I know there are a lot of factors that go into this, what technique, strain, etc. Lets just say cubensis, and starting off with the pf tek method using 12 1/2 pint jars, what is a general estimate of how much dry weight that method could produce? Ive seen trying to find a picture or some type of comparison that might say something like... this 9 x 4 glass dish held in a 10 x 5 x 10 container might yield so and so much grams of wet or dry weight. I know a lot of factors go into how they will yield, but any example of rough estimates would be cool, Im trying to get every bit of information I can before I try my first endeavor. =)
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: shroomzey]
#8411906 - 05/17/08 03:22 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Depends also if you dunk it 
Dunno.
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: dstark]
#8413095 - 05/17/08 02:24 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Hmmm, what is dunking?
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: shroomzey]
#8414531 - 05/17/08 09:04 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Dunking is where you soak your cakes in water before moving them to your FC. It shouldnt take but a couple of seconds of searching to find somw different techniques and opinions on dunking. If you search youtube for Lets Grow Mushrooms, RR gives his take on in it in a proccess reffered to as the "Dunk n Roll" I strongly suggest dunking your cakes.
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: Asric]
#8414691 - 05/17/08 09:45 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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For your original question:
There is no way to tell since there are dozens of variables that can change yield drastically....
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: shroomzey]
#8414697 - 05/17/08 09:47 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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How ever many pop up..
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: Brainiac]
#8414812 - 05/17/08 10:26 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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Hi shroomzey I am new too, welcome.
maybe the question should be how much dry shrooms can 1/2 pint jars cake can produce in the best conditions.
we will learn to put the best Tek and dunk and everything and we know it's will not be on the first run.
but to get some estimate
- on the best(standard)conditions how much dry mushrooms you get from PF-Tek cake 1/2 pint ?
thanks
Zoro
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: Zoro]
#8414836 - 05/17/08 10:37 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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12 half pint cakes you can expect about two oz dried.
but it does depend on a lot of things.
if you follow the directions in the pf tek such as regular fanning/misting... use a shotgun terrarium or a poor man's pod.
you can expect good results.
theres ways to improve yield of the pf tek by adding a reservoir to your cakes or even putting a drinking straw into your cakes to keep them hydrated.
you can also stack your cakes and it makes a more humid and mushroom friendly enviroment... fahster on here does 20 or more half pint cakes in a 54 quart bin and gets amazing results.
good luck
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: flavoraid]
#8415160 - 05/18/08 12:20 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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thanks flavoraid 
it's give some proportion even if I take two oz as the maximum for masters only
peace
zoro
Edited by Zoro (05/18/08 12:23 AM)
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: Zoro]
#8415444 - 05/18/08 03:12 AM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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Awesome, thank for you for all the responses. I know there are a ton of variables that could determine the yield in weight, but any estimate you've given is appreciated. There is no real limit on money spent for the initial investment/setup, or technique, or whatever. I'd like to work my way in getting the best results possible via potency and weight yield, but I figure I'll start out small and learn from experience.
Any personal opinions on any certain guide / resource that helped you get the most out of your growing? (I myself am already trying to search out and take in as much info as possible, I know its all out there but I just figure I'd ask) =)
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: shroomzey]
#8415589 - 05/18/08 06:19 AM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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Zoro - 2oz on 12 cakes definately isn't the max it's a little below average.
shroomzey - for potency the only thing that matters is having ideal fruiting conditions, harvesting on time (hardly), and having lots of availible nutrients with nitrogen which some say is just for yield. Genetics (what spores you use) will effect potency for sure.
RR says substrate won't effect potency but I think it's more like theres many substrates that will preform well. Such as worm castings, compost, horse poo, cow poo, seaweed, coffee, straw. That bit about substrate not effecting potency I think has a crack in it because people claim using 2% stevia leaf in a substrate improves potency by 30%.
Unless your a drug dealer or you want the easiest grow possible. You can grow enough for you and your friends of exotic shrooms with superior potency. If you grow Pan Cyans or fruit Stone Producers they're potency is superior to cubes. (some say stone producers such as mexicana a and jalisco are around the same with a smoother trip)
Two things that will improve yield and potency for sure. Genetics for potency and bulk substrates for yield.
Goodluck
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: flavoraid]
#8416066 - 05/18/08 11:52 AM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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Quote:
flavoraid said:
Zoro - 2oz on 12 cakes definately isn't the max it's a little below average.
thanks flavotaid, if 2oz is achievable for beginner it's even better.
first I will learn to grow and then I will think about potency, yield, Genetics and so ... first step first ..
peace
zoro
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Re: What is the potential production of a given space? [Re: Zoro]
#8416183 - 05/18/08 12:32 PM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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I think most would agree 5 grams per cake is average which would mean 12 produce 60. 2 oz is 52.
People claim to get constant yields of like 10+ grams some claim to achieve as much as 19. (royal_flush) but I don't think that's possible.
5-8 is basically the yield potential per 1/2 pint cake.
I believe the most I've got off a cake was like 9.5.. and it may have been less I don't really write that shit down.
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