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Ambien Research
    #8408780 - 05/16/08 09:51 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

so my doc just gave me like 20 samples of ambien cr

ive been honestly taking them every night for sleep

the first time i took it was the only time i experimented recreationally

but every time i find myself in the strangest state

im sure many of people whove taken it will describe it as between tripping and being half asleep

because it is

its exactly like waking up in the middle of the night after a vivid dream



my point being

is that this drug is a very fascinating experience

and they should do research into its hypnotic properties and psychedelic potential

because ive experienced things ive only experienced on lsd....LSD!

thats got to say something about it



now if it only helped me sleep...


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: sirbojangles]
    #8408791 - 05/16/08 09:54 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

i'd rather not tamper with natural sleep cycles


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: woohoo1000]
    #8408818 - 05/16/08 10:05 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

As I ALWAYS say...

Fuck ambien


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #8409091 - 05/16/08 11:37 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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boxcarguy07 said:
As I ALWAYS say...

Fuck ambien



Yep, when you wake up while driving your car on I-95 you gotta say fuck all that.


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The thesis that I want to advance today is that the drug war and the laws that prohibit the private consumption of certain drugs are unconstitutional. Prohibition laws, themselves, violate every tenet of limited government that is embodied in our Constitution.
http://www.paulhager.org/libertarian/drug_con.html


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: Chemy]
    #8409268 - 05/16/08 12:19 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

well i dont drive

and im usually about to go to sleep when i take it

if somebody started driving on ambien then it isnt the drug's fault

somebody tell me why ambien is bad


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: sirbojangles]
    #8409506 - 05/16/08 01:18 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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sirbojangles said:
somebody tell me why ambien is bad




Sleeping aids like Ambien only treat the symptoms of sleeplessness, they do not treat the underlying cause. They should only be used on a temporary basis.


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: sirbojangles]
    #8409531 - 05/16/08 01:25 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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sirbojangles said:
well i dont drive

and im usually about to go to sleep when i take it

if somebody started driving on ambien then it isnt the drug's fault

somebody tell me why ambien is bad




In a case like that, I would have to say it is the drug's fault. And I don't usually agree with things being the drug's fault, usually it is the stupidity of the person, but if you take an ambien to go to sleep, and then WAKE UP driving, you did not make a conscious decision to go driving.

I had an ambien prescription for insomnia a couple of years back... I did things after taking an ambien that I had no recollection of until waking up the next morning (sometimes on the floor) and finding the evidence.

It was the last straw when I woke up one morning to find out that I had apparently taken six or seven more ambien pills without remembering.

That is, however, just how it affected me. If it doesn't affect you negatively, that's just fine.
But for me, I will continue to saw... fuck ambien.


But, you also gotta keep in mind what scout24 said too. It's always better to get to the root cause.


Edit: Oh yeah, the quack pill-pusher Doctor that prescribed me the ambien told me it was most likely that smoking weed was the reason I was having insomnia. :rolleyes:
I didn't argue with him, but I had trouble sleeping LONG before I started smoking, and smoking herb helps me sleep tremendously


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Edited by boxcarguy07 (05/16/08 01:28 PM)


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #8409624 - 05/16/08 01:57 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

ugh bad doctors are the worst


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: sirbojangles]
    #8410242 - 05/16/08 05:03 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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sirbojangles said:
well i dont drive

and im usually about to go to sleep when i take it

if somebody started driving on ambien then it isnt the drug's fault

somebody tell me why ambien is bad



Are you serious?

That is seriously ignorant, I'm not even going to try to explain anything to you.

I hope you're one of the many people that take ambien then during the night sleepwalk and down the whole bottle of ambien, that seems to happen often.:smile:


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The thesis that I want to advance today is that the drug war and the laws that prohibit the private consumption of certain drugs are unconstitutional. Prohibition laws, themselves, violate every tenet of limited government that is embodied in our Constitution.
http://www.paulhager.org/libertarian/drug_con.html


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: Chemy]
    #8410252 - 05/16/08 05:05 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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Chemy said:
I hope you're one of the many people that take ambien then during the night sleepwalk and down the whole bottle of ambien, that seems to happen often.:)





haha, read my post above!


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: Chemy]
    #8410255 - 05/16/08 05:06 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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Some users have reported unexplained sleepwalking while using zolpidem, and a few have reported driving, binge eating, sleep talking, and performing other daily tasks while sleeping. The sleepwalker can sometimes perform these tasks as normally as they might if they were awake. They can sometimes carry on complex conversations and respond appropriately to questions or statements so much so that the observer may believe the sleepwalker to be awake. This is similar to, but unlike typical sleep talking, which can usually be identified easily and is characterised by incoherent speech that often has no relevance to the situation or that is so disorganised as to be completely unintelligible. These statements bear a strong resemblance to that of schizophasia, one of many symptoms commonly seen in individuals suffering from schizophrenia. A person under the influence of this medication may seem fully aware of their environment even though they are still asleep. This can bring about concerns for the safety of the sleepwalker and others. These side effects may be related to the mechanism that also causes zolpidem to bring some semi-comatose people back to consciousness.

Driving while under the drug's influence is generally considered several orders of magnitude more dangerous than the average drunk driver, due to the diminished motor controls and delusions that may affect the user. It is unclear if the drug is responsible for the behavior, but a class-action lawsuit was filed against Sanofi-Aventis in March 2006 on behalf of those who reported symptoms. Residual 'hangover' effects such as sleepiness, impaired psychomotor and cognitive after nighttime administration may persist into the next day which may impair the ability of users to drive safely, increase risks of falls and hip fractures




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The thesis that I want to advance today is that the drug war and the laws that prohibit the private consumption of certain drugs are unconstitutional. Prohibition laws, themselves, violate every tenet of limited government that is embodied in our Constitution.
http://www.paulhager.org/libertarian/drug_con.html


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: Chemy]
    #8410294 - 05/16/08 05:17 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Scary shit... I'm glad I decided to get off of that stuff before anything really bad happened.


Mmmm, I'm happy with natural things, thank you!


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: boxcarguy07]
    #8411821 - 05/17/08 02:46 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

this is so funny

and ironic

you guys are right

this is creepy stuff

im not gonna do it anymore



last night the craziest and most unexplainable events happened seemingly unrelated to the fact that i took ambien early on purpose

but i know at this point that nothing is unrelated

i was very close to madness

very close


i still think research should be done

if only for the fact that it is very mysterious and strange


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Re: Ambien Research [Re: sirbojangles]
    #8411831 - 05/17/08 02:49 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

as far as im concerned ambien is very dangerous and should be illegal and weed should take its place
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