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Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms
    #8405174 - 05/15/08 12:37 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

Hey,
I usually frequent the northerncountrymorels.com site to update them on the arrival of the morels.
And I have spoken with Mike aka mjmhmusser on there and it seems somebody else was using
his handle and posted a pm about a post I put up a year ago. It was really strange.
So I tried to support this site and sites like it in a way that credits it for good things.
I'm sure I'll need to talk to the real Mike when they are back on the net again.

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Message subject: Re: The Snakeheads are up! One Inch! under the leaves!
From: mjmhmusser
Sent at: Wed May 14, 2008 10:56 am
To: AcidHorse

Message

Subject: The Snakeheads are up! One Inch! under the leaves!


AcidHorse wrote: Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:50 pm

An inch to a 3/4 inch in length!
And hidden under the leaves.
I'm in Cincinnati, so you Wolverines know the range.


Hey man, I gotta take out that picture. First off, images are supposed to be posted in the morel images forum. Second, some times when the thread is brought up it shows an image with the web address of shroomery.org. This website is known for growing hallucinogenic mushrooms and is not considered family friendly. Posting of the web address violates forum rules, even if unintentional like this one.

Hosting, like the one you used, is one reasons why Mike made it mandatory to use the attachment feature.

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Message subject: Re: The Snakeheads are up! One Inch! under the leaves!

Are you someone else under Mike's handle?

That message/post is from way back one year ago.

You can't post pictures in the forum in Discussions here anymore, so it seems that was taken care of.

Yeah I know shroomery.org isn't family friendly, yet if you are going to grow morels you'll need to know
the tricks of the trade and the tools.
And the tools are important.

I posted pictures on their site "back then one year ago", and just used the opportunity to save ncm here
some disk space "back then one year ago".

I also just thought about that assertion about that
site and about hallucinogenic mushrooms.
And I'm not sure its a good idea to censor that.
Being into mycology and knowing the tons of poisonous mushrooms it isn't a bad idea to make people familiar with them, considering toddlers eat
anything that is found in the yard. Some people there
would like to consider them non-poisonous but I'm sure others there would agree that for toddlers they
are something that needs to be recognized in case
their kids manage to pick something up in the yard
and eat it. There have been deaths related to toddlers
eating the psilocin containing mushrooms.
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Message subject: Re: The Snakeheads are up! One Inch! under the leaves!Folder: Inbox
Sorry bout that. I got a PM from a member saying that shroomery.org wasn't family friendly and seemed upset. I did think that I had seen it before, but, just could not remember when.

I didn't look at the date on the post because when I went to it I also saw the shroomery.org blue/black image box instead of the images of the half frees that you described in your post. That was my bad there by not looking at the date. I also should have realised Mike took out the image posting a while ago and that it would have not worked if you had tried to post it this year.

You did not recieve any warnings. Sorry about that, still getting used to the Moderator stuff. I got one more thing to add to my checklist before I make and @$$ outta myself again. I should have just deleted the link and IMG tags and went on my merry way.

Disregard the rest but you can read it if you want.

The shroomery.org box is a violation of the rules and is a valid reason for a warning. I didn't issue a warning because I realised that this box was unintentional by reading your post. I also pulled the link out of the image from the box them pasted it into my browser and seen the image of the half frees.

Again, I didn't give you a warning or anything. I just got rid of the link in it that was all so I didn't have to deal with people whining about a link to a "magic mushroom" website.

I basically just sent a PM just to notify you that the link was taken out and to make the post follow the rules of the board.
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Message subject: Re: The Snakeheads are up! One Inch! under the leaves!Folder: Inbox

Those are Mikes rules. "No hallucenogenic mushrooms Period."

You do bring up some valid points but would have to take that up with Mike. I don't have the authority to make rules up, just enforce them.

Sent at: Thu May 15, 2008 1:32 pm
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Message subject: Re: The Snakeheads are up! One Inch! under the leaves!Folder: Sent messages
I understand the rules, yeah.
But from a professor's point of view, this could
have a bad result by banning knowledge or awareness of what they look like and where they
are encountered. Nobody should glorify the
users of those types of mushrooms, yet they don't
have to chide that site itself, because it does serve another purpose and that would be to identify not only the hallucinogenic mushrooms but also truly poisonous ones as well, i.e. cyclopeptide containing, monomethylhydrazine containing, mescaline containing, ibotenic acid and muscimol containing.
Those cyclopeptide containing ones, there is no cure
for the poisoning they could do. I had people at the
shroomery identify for me Inocybe pudica which is something I found and is poisonous. So they are not
bad people its just some of the people do a bad thing. The pictures I posted there of snakeheads was
in their forum Gourmet and Medicinals:

Gourmet and Medicinal Mushrooms (5 viewing)
This forum is dedicated to the cultivation of gourmet and medicinal mushrooms. It is not a drug related forum. Basic knowledge is recommended, as not many gourmet/medicinal species use spores as step one for cultivation. Agar and mycelial transfers/slurries are the most common methods.
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Chat room: #edibles (1 user)
You can see where they post its not a drug related section. Medicinal would apply to reishi mushrooms.
But anyway, ncm ought to have a forum section on the cultivation of morels, it wouldn't just be
outdoor but also indoor.
And this would also bring a lot more morel-affiliated members of shroomery.org that are only concerned with morels over to here.

Sent at: Thu May 15, 2008 1:58 pm
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Its funny.

This year my mother told a woman about me trying to grow morel mushrooms and the person
responded to her with "Mushrooms!? those aren't illegal ones are they?".
And at a later date and time they inquired again with this ignorant comment "Those mushrooms your
son is trying to grow they're not illegal ones right? I thought the only ones you could grow were the illegal ones.".
So it seems its not safe to grow legal or illegal mushrooms, and from the point of view of some rural people who know nothing about morels or sponge, (yes there are some country people that haven't heard of sponge), it would be illegal to grow morels as well. When I had heard about this woman's
comment I returned fire and said "well where in the hell do you get the mushrooms on your pizza?",
"I guess those are illegal as well". I was almost going to find that person and threaten them with libel
and defamation. Because I was afraid she would contact someone in the authorities and commit the crime of libel. Libelsuit $1,000,000 for slandering my reputation.
Remember Duke University? and what happened to the prosecuting DA?

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From: mjmhmusser
Sent at: Thu May 15, 2008 2:35 pm
To: AcidHorse

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I sent Mike your last PM. I have to stick to the No hallucenogenic mushrooms though. Rules are rules. Even though the wesite has good information, the websites main existance is for the growing of psilocibes.

We tend to point out in books and on reputable websites where to find good information on certain mushrooms and look-a-likes.

You have to PM Mike and plead with him your point of view. I am not allowed to change the rules, so you may as well be talking to a brick wall.





Again, does the Shroomery want to stay Adult only or a Democratic entity?
I've done mushrooms before, yet I wouldn't want to advocate their usage to children.
I'd much rather point out they are poisonous, to the kids as well.
But this site has good information, yet I don't think they should label themselves as catering only
to the psilocybes. It would be like a crack dealer putting up only a site for crack-only and no mj and no coke and no dose.
The site is "Shroomery" which should be mushrooms in general.



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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: AcidHorse]
    #8408425 - 05/16/08 06:26 AM (4 months, 19 days ago)

I think that those posts tell me that Shroomery is perfect in how it is. I only grow edibles, never done shrooms, but I come here for my mushroom information for a few reasons:

1) I dont like being around over sensitive, dumb everything down for the masses type folks, that get bent out of shape about everything.

2) I think that the illegal mushroom growers have pushed forward a lot of cultivation techniques and tools for the home grower.

3) Open minds and open discussions are far more interesting then the reverse.

4) I am almost to the point of not even noticing when I read a post written in third person :wink:

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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: Culland]
    #8408673 - 05/16/08 09:12 AM (4 months, 19 days ago)

I know, its all about the open-mindedness and the knowledge.
But they are stressing a good point about keeping the "teens"
under control. Teens shouldn't be doing the drugs.
If they are 18 years old they can make that choice for themselves.
But others shouldn't advocate it so younger children would be
"turned on". That's like Camel cigarettes' advertising scheme,
and those are surely rightwing supporters (Big Money / Big Corporations).
Maybe this site caters to the teen mind more than it should.

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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: AcidHorse]
    #8414992 - 05/17/08 11:34 PM (4 months, 17 days ago)

My wife's grandmother did something that basically ruined my character in my neighborhood.

Because I had mason jars laying around, and because I grow mushrooms, she automatically assumed I manufacture "met", which she meant "meth" but is so dumb she didn't even know how to pronounce it. She then proceeded to accuse me of growing illegal mushrooms.

I retaliated with mocking her.

She started talking shit to my wife about me, saying I wouldn't be anything in life, that I wouldn't finish college, I wouldn't get my Bachelors in Biological Sciences... so on.

My wife had turned her ankle, and it was horribly bruised looking and was the size of a softball. Her grandmother came to my house while I was at school, saw it, and acted as though I beat her up or something!

It got worse.

She then came over another day, and after being accused of all of this crap plus more I haven't mentioned, I had enough.. I didn't allow her into my house but allowed her son to come in. I explained to her son (my wifes uncle) that because of how her mother was treating me, she wasn't allowed in my house. My wife and I talked to him, and he agreed that she was being ridiculous and that she should leave us alone.

While she was outside my house, she went to my neighbors and proceeded to tell them that I cook meth, grow illegal mushrooms and beat my wife, steal my kids mail.

My neighbors then started treating us like shit. Coming up to our house and staring at us while we were just doing things in our house.

Basically they thought we were meth heads or something.

Made my wife so upset that she cussed her out and refuses to talk to her.

I have thought seriously about filing a lawsuit.

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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #8415140 - 05/18/08 12:15 AM (4 months, 17 days ago)

That's a horrible situation.


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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #8415596 - 05/18/08 06:25 AM (4 months, 17 days ago)

You're a smart guy, check out the standards and other cases in your area first. If your interested I could maybe look up some for ya if you tell me what state your in.

Slander suits are pretty hard though, you have to prove they publicized a fact that wasn't true and that it hurt you. Emotionally is fine, but harder to prove.

Telling your neighbors would definatly be publicizing the situation and such, but in the end, does she have money?

And unless you feel comfortable suing pro se, you'll have to pay a lawyer. Its unlikely that your state allows for attorneys fees in all but the most insane cases so you'll prolly have to pay for that out of your own pocket even if you win, sucks, but that's the law.


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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #8416434 - 05/18/08 01:48 PM (4 months, 17 days ago)

Wow, sounds like some of the screwy crap I have gone through in life.
The mushrooms you grow are the gourmet ones right? If so it was just like my situation,
(only thing is we don't communicate to that person anymore, (their own kids don't because
they know she's mentally impaired)).


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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: AcidHorse]
    #8418597 - 05/18/08 11:18 PM (4 months, 16 days ago)

I only grow legal mushrooms, yes.

I have no need to grow illegal mushrooms, and I don't care to.

Seriously this woman is just nuts.

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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #8419686 - 05/19/08 11:02 AM (4 months, 16 days ago)

My inlaws have graciously accepted my hobby and soon to be livelihood. I have shown family and friends samples of exotic gourmets, but I'm not selling and not producing in quantity right now. Sometimes I get worried that I better get off my ass and start producing or people will start to make assumptions. I'm lucky that people hunt morels around here or I would definitely be swimming against the rumor mill.


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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: UrbanFungi]
    #8421897 - 05/19/08 08:59 PM (4 months, 15 days ago)

If you can grow one kind you can grow almost all of them..

I order one grow light. Now I'm hearing from my family that I will get a visit from the Cops...Because, those lights (one T5) are only used to grow pot with..I'm like lets see, I have it in front of a open window..Now if I was doing anything illegal would I do it right in the open... :shake:


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    #8427952 - 05/21/08 09:10 AM (4 months, 14 days ago)

I think it is too bad that 99% of folks just assume you are growing illegal mushrooms, no mater how many times you say otherwise. My concern has always been that sooner or later the police are going to come knocking when the rumor mill creates this elaborate description of my grow op.

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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: Culland]
    #8429044 - 05/21/08 02:31 PM (4 months, 14 days ago)

I tend to disagree. In my experience, if you really aren't growing illegal mushrooms people will pickup from your honesty. I've had some old timers try to tell me that I was going to use supplies to make or take 'poison' mushrooms but once you start talking enthusiastically about how cool this or that is about such mushroom they just want you to shut up and loose curiosity


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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: Andrew47]
    #8434087 - 05/22/08 06:33 PM (4 months, 13 days ago)

Sorry I had to edit that no matter how honest it was but I could get a lot of mean flack from boogers because I have a little trust, understanding and faith in my kids and the sense God and I tried to give them. Suffice to say that doctor's kids are sometimes very aggressive little experimenters and I just want all in by midnight and "A-OK"....right? :smile:


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Re: Legal Gourmet Mushrooms and Illegal Mushrooms [Re: curenado]
    #8438330 - 05/23/08 09:27 PM (4 months, 11 days ago)

LOL you started to sound like me when I get going on a rant about Bush, and OPEC.


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