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 Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: gluke bastid]
#8404849 - 05/15/08 10:45 AM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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Get rid of your assumptions of what is real, what is god, what is self and what is oneness.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Why assume? When you can live?
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: hitch hiker]
#8405282 - 05/15/08 01:07 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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hitch hiker said:
No insult to Ice at all just a little foul humor
foul humor is not insulting to me.
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: Icelander]
#8405367 - 05/15/08 01:29 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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You may have missed the post so I am
P/M ing it to you diploid
deleted it.
Im in trouble now
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Icelander
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: hitch hiker]
#8405441 - 05/15/08 01:51 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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Oh you are soooo bad.
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: Icelander]
#8405601 - 05/15/08 02:40 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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Einstein also said,
"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: vaportrail]
#8405623 - 05/15/08 02:49 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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And why should we adopt his position on this?
Einstein was fallible - even in physics!
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#8405784 - 05/15/08 03:35 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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Lol great statement.
Wow I guess that about sums it up
Einstein has left the building.
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#8406437 - 05/15/08 06:45 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said:
And why should we adopt his position on this?
Einstein was fallible - even in physics!
I'll take Alberts word over yours or some priest any day.
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: Scarfmeister]
#8413842 - 05/17/08 06:00 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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Albert is your priest.
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I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: Scarfmeister]
#8414608 - 05/17/08 09:24 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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Look up 'appeal to authority' fallacy and report back when you understand it.
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#8415578 - 05/18/08 06:11 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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how does that apply to what i just said?
You guys just love to invoke ad hominem or whatever as sort of a final blow to other posters. Nobody is impressed.
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: Scarfmeister]
#8415919 - 05/18/08 10:34 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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how does that apply to what i just said?
If you did the research as suggested (read the stickied fallacies thread), you would not need to be spoon-fed an answer.
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You guys...
Paranoia? Conspiracy?
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just love to invoke ad hominem
Didn't happen, but if you read the stickied fallacies thread you might better understand this forum.
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Nobody is impressed.
Projection. Delusions of grandeur - perceives self as spokesman for all of mankind.
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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (05/18/08 10:42 AM)
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#8415947 - 05/18/08 10:51 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Catalysts to say what has never been said, to see what has never been seen. To draw, paint, sing, sculpt, dance and act what has never before been done. To push the envelope of creativity and language. And whats really important is, I call it, the felt presence of direct experience. Which is a fancy term which just simply means we have to stop consuming our culture. We have to create culture. Don't watch TV, don't read magazines, don't even listen to NPR. Create your own roadshow. The nexus of space and time, where you are now, is the most immediate sector of your universe. And if you're worrying about Michael Jackson or Bill Clinton or somebody else, you are disempowered. You are giving it all away to icons. Icons which are maintained by an electronic media, so that you want to dress like X or have lips like Y. This is shit-brained this kind of thinking. That is all cultural diversion. And what is real is you and your friends, your associations, your highs, your orgasms, your hopes, your plans, and your fears. And we are told no. We're unimportant, we're peripheral, get a degree, get a job, get a this, get a that, and then you're a player. You don't even want to play in that game. You want to reclaim your mind and get it out of the hands of the cultural engineers who want to turn you into a half-baked moron consuming all this trash that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying world. Where is that at? -Terence
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: Middleman]
#8415954 - 05/18/08 10:54 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#8417491 - 05/18/08 06:14 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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how does that apply to what i just said?
If you did the research as suggested (read the stickied fallacies thread), you would not need to be spoon-fed an answer.
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You guys...
Paranoia? Conspiracy?
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just love to invoke ad hominem
Didn't happen, but if you read the stickied fallacies thread you might better understand this forum.
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Nobody is impressed.
Projection. Delusions of grandeur - perceives self as spokesman for all of mankind.
I hope this is some kind of ironic reply or you just made my short-bus list.
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: Scarfmeister]
#8417604 - 05/18/08 06:41 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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I hope this is some kind of ironic reply
I'm guessing you STILL haven't read the stickied thread so you can understand what this forum is all about and why you're so hopelessly out of the loop. 
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Hard to believe, right? Read it for yourself:
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: Diploid]
#8417974 - 05/18/08 08:19 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Einstein DID believe in god, just not the God most people believe in.
He believed in Spinoza's god, which in effect, if you know anything about Spinoza's god, means that he believed that all of reality was God expressing itself.
So, saying Einstein believed in himself is effectively saying that Einstein believed in God.
There should be a huge qualifier in that headline: "Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself (as part of God) not God (as most tend to think of God).
"We are the face of God"- Spinoza
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: fubuvsfitch]
#8419045 - 05/19/08 02:14 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Spinoza is my favourite philosopher. But since the "God of Spinoza" is simply a euphemism for nature, Spinoza can be considered the first prominent atheist, even though they didn't use that term back then. I think there's a more appropriate term, like 'pantheist'. But whatever the word is, Einstein was certainly not religious.
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: zouden]
#8419174 - 05/19/08 04:47 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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But since the "God of Spinoza" is simply a euphemism for nature
Youve got to be kidding. Spinoza was anything but a pleaser.
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Re: Einstein was smart enough to believe in himself not God [Re: daytripper23]
#8419214 - 05/19/08 05:46 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Spinoza didn't believe in a god other than the universe. That's what Einstein was referring to.
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9/11 was sketchy but I mean come on
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