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 Quarryman
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 Happiness? Discipline?
#8404532 - 05/15/08 09:07 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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The last few days I've feeling really good with no real reason. Its just my normal routine, but everything has come so easy and I haven't been mentally straining, even when concerned with my studies. The thing is, I quit my my meditation practice and had basically quit and act of spiritual seeking I was doing. I haven't forced myself to do anything, but I end up doing more, and interacting with people better.
So the question is: Does discipline help you on your spiritual journey or do you just let life happen?
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 WhiskeyClone
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Re: Happiness? Discipline? [Re: Quarryman]
#8404544 - 05/15/08 09:11 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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I try to have the discipline to let life happen.
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. -- `Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' -- Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.
~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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Quarryman
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It doesn't seem to work like that for me. I normally make too big of a deal out of what I'm doing instead of the reason behind.
What type of spiritual disciplines do you follow?
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Re: Happiness? Discipline? [Re: Quarryman]
#8404706 - 05/15/08 10:04 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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My main spiritual practice is to encounter every moment consciously. I give permission for each moment to happen as it is. Whenever I notice my thinking has taken over my awareness, I let it go and return my attention to what my senses are telling me. When something upsets me I take a moment to try and identify what it is I am attached to.
I avoid regimens, as they seem to increase my aversion to activities like exercise and meditation. In the past I have established regular times for these things, but I've found that each day is too unpredictable for the scheduled time to be the most practical time to do it.
But I try to make sure I get some form of physical exercise and some form of formal meditation every day. Discipline enters the picture the moment I start thinking about skipping that day. I'm getting better at identifying that procrastination impulse when it occurs. I say out loud each excuse I think of, and rarely are any of them valid when I really look at them. I don't let my mind fool me into ducking those responsibilities. Then I stand up and begin doing what I know I should.
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. -- `Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' -- Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.
~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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Quarryman
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Yea my mind takes over when it comes to regimens. I want to control the situation ans thus lose what I was looking to gain.
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Re: Happiness? Discipline? [Re: Quarryman]
#8404949 - 05/15/08 11:25 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Quarryman said:
Yea my mind takes over when it comes to regimens. I want to control the situation ans thus lose what I was looking to gain.
That was my problem. I realized that my strict regimens were just an attempt to alleviate the pressure of having to find the motivation each day to do these things. Rather than actually face the prospect of exercising each and every time I was supposed to do it, I would say "Ok, from now on, at 6:00 on the dot every day, I will do my cardio, rain or shine, no matter what kind of mood I'm in, blah blah..." it doesn't really work because I was trying to make it into one great big commitment, rather than making the right decision each time.
That's discipline: doing what has to be done, when it has to be done, every time. It's not honoring some idealistic promise you made weeks ago from the comfort of your couch.
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. -- `Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' -- Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.
~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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Re: Happiness? Discipline? [Re: Quarryman]
#8406369 - 05/15/08 06:30 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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the first thing you did was try to slot whiskyclone:
"what type of spritual pracice do you follow?"
stop slotting everything in your quest for enlightenment or liberation (whatever).
let things be what they are directly & as they are.
just use your slotting for work and chores.
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WhiskeyClone
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Quote:
redgreenvines said:
just use your slotting for work and chores.
This is great advice. 
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. -- `Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' -- Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.
~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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