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 TheWall
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 Large hadron collider
#8398796 - 05/13/08 09:48 PM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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DieCommie this ones for you.
I'm sure yal have heard of it, but i thought it was crazy wicked when i saw it.
LHC
shed some intellectual conversation on this, id like to learn about it.
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TheShroomJew23
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 Re: Large hadron collider [Re: TheWall]
#8398956 - 05/13/08 10:26 PM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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where is that one, I live in chicago and we have two here well 3 if you count downstate
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where is that one, I live in chicago and we have two here well 3 if you count downstate
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I'm going to visit CERN this summer, as a normal visitor. Anyone been there?
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Re: Large hadron collider [Re: Annom]
#8399726 - 05/14/08 05:14 AM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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I just heard back from them, they no longer have underground tours  .
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Re: Large hadron collider [Re: Annom]
#8399762 - 05/14/08 05:41 AM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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Not nearly as impressive, but I got to see the one of the early Berkeley accelators at Lawrence Livermore Labs:
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Re: Large hadron collider [Re: Ferris]
#8399773 - 05/14/08 05:48 AM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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In the bottom of this wiki list of accelerators and colliders in the world:
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I found some interesting hypotheticals:
Besides the real accelerators listed above, there are hypothetical accelerators often used as hypothetical examples or optimistic projects by particle physicists.
Planckatron is a term often used colloquially by particle physicists to describe the accelerator with a center-of-mass energy of the order of the Planck scale. It is estimated that the radius of the Planckatron has to be roughly the radius of the milky way.
Eloisatron (Eurasiatic Long Intersecting Storage Accelerator) was a project of INFN headed by Antonio Zichichi at the Ettore Majorana Foundation in Erice, Sicily. The center-of-mass energy was planned to be 200 TeV, and the size was planned to span parts of Europe and Asia.
Fermitron was an accelerator sketched by Enrico Fermi on a notepad in the 1940s proposing an accelerator in stable orbit around the earth.
Arguably also in this category falls the Zevatron, a term used to describe hypothetical sources for ultra-high-energy cosmic rays.
Humanity won't be cool until it has a Fermitron in orbit.
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Re: Large hadron collider [Re: Ferris]
#8400358 - 05/14/08 11:15 AM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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Humanity won't be cool until it has a Fermitron in orbit.
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Re: Large hadron collider [Re: TheWall]
#8405447 - 05/15/08 01:53 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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When the hell does it go online anyway? Its like a video game, always coming out in the next quarter...
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Re: Large hadron collider [Re: DieCommie]
#8405695 - 05/15/08 03:11 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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http://www.lhcountdown.com/
53 days 6 hours 48 minutes and 17 seconds, currently
That isn't to say they won't increase it 
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Re: Large hadron collider [Re: TheWall]
#8405881 - 05/15/08 04:05 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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That thing has the potential to make a black hole or strangelet matter. Either would spell the end of all life, but more than that, destroy all of our progress and leave no legacy for anyone that would come after.
And for what? So they can find out the weight of a higgs boson particle. That's really worth it, isin't it? Gotta find out the weight of a theoretical particle!
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That thing has the potential to make a black hole or strangelet matter. Either would spell the end of all life, but more than that, destroy all of our progress and leave no legacy for anyone that would come after.
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And for what? So they can find out the weight of a higgs boson particle. That's really worth it, isin't it? Gotta find out the weight of a theoretical particle!
After we find out it's weight, there will be no reason to live anyways.... 
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Re: Large hadron collider [Re: PhanTomCat]
#8406979 - 05/15/08 08:53 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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I think it's worth it though!!!!
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I think it's worth it though!!!!
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Visionary Tools said:
That thing has the potential to make a black hole or strangelet matter. Either would spell the end of all life, but more than that, destroy all of our progress and leave no legacy for anyone that would come after.
And for what? So they can find out the weight of a higgs boson particle. That's really worth it, isin't it? Gotta find out the weight of a theoretical particle!
I don't know which scientist came up with the idea but those who later used it to spread fear are borderline retarded. I'm not talking about you Visionary Tools  .
There are incredibly more energetic processes going on around the solar system each time ultra high energy cosmic rays, many of them with energies of many orders of magnitude greater than what will ever be produced at the CERN, enter Earth or another planet's atmosphere, or undergo any kind of collision for that matter. These processes have been going on since the dawn of time, yet no strangelet or doomsday mini black-hole ever came out of it. Or at least we never observed traces of these in our solar system. At worst the probability is ridiculously small, as in smaller than the one for any weird shit that already had the possibility to happen since a few billion years.
Lets not forget that while strangelets are somehow grounded in reality, micro black-hole production comes out of a particular class of super-string theories, err, hypothesis. Indeed, strangelets are possibly part of the standard model's QCD sector, but micro black-hole production rests on an unfalsifiable, unscientific brain fart.
I do advocate responsible science, but this issue has already been debunked many times through many different ways.
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Re: Large hadron collider [Re: deimya]
#8409478 - 05/16/08 01:13 PM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/mar/18/science.research
Well, even though the news says black holes have already been made, I doubt it. A three dimensional object only exists in theroy.
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This is poor journalism again. Reading the last few paragraph you see the guy is just jerking off string theory while smashing gold atoms together. No black-hole voodoo going there at all.
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