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 bradley
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mikebart101 said:
Learn to be at peace with the way things are. Never wish or hope for anything. Just exist.
sounds a little drab. keep hope alive!
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bradley
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 Re: The Urge to Destroy [Re: bradley]
#8398651 - 05/13/08 09:24 PM (4 months, 29 days ago) |
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The Basic Human Urges:
1) To Eat
2) To Procreate
3) To Plunder
The bible gives ample permission for #3.
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bradley
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Re: The Urge to Destroy [Re: bradley]
#8398655 - 05/13/08 09:25 PM (4 months, 29 days ago) |
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And #2
And #1
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TheHappieHippies
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Re: The Urge to Destroy [Re: bradley]
#8398673 - 05/13/08 09:27 PM (4 months, 29 days ago) |
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bradley said:
The Basic Human Urges:
1) To Eat
2) To Procreate
3) To Plunder
The bible gives ample permission for #3.
Huh?
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bradley
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"...And they warred against the Midianites, as the Lord commanded Moses, and they slew all the [adult] males. And the children of Israel took all the women of Midian captives, and their little ones...And they brought the captives, and the prey, and the spoil, unto Moses...And Moses was angry with the officers of the host And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Ba'laam, to commit trespass against the Lord in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the Lord. Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the female children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."
i read a better example of unprovoked plunder in a joseph campbell book but can't find it
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WhiskeyClone
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The only time I have an urge to destroy is when I am very frustrated with something and I have lost the patience to find a rational response.
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It is much easier to destroy the problem; it is indeed the most efficient of solutions. Destruction provides the quickest opportunity for change.
Sure, if you are being attacked by a wild badger. With the types of problems most western humans face these days, destroying someone or some physical thing is not usually destroying the problem. It is tempting to define our 'problem' as some external thing, some person or group of people, precisely for the reason that it can then be destroyed. I don't think there is anything efficient about it in most cases. The War on Terror and War on drugs are perfect examples.
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Peace is a bore.
Peace is never boring. If it were boring it would not be peace.
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A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think now in hard words, and to-morrow speak what to-morrow thinks in hard words again, though it contradict every thing you said to-day. -- `Ah, so you shall be sure to be misunderstood.' -- Is it so bad, then, to be misunderstood? Pythagoras was misunderstood, and Socrates, and Jesus, and Luther, and Copernicus, and Galileo, and Newton, and every pure and wise spirit that ever took flesh. To be great is to be misunderstood.
~ R.W. Emerson, "Self-Reliance"
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The Tourist
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Re: The Urge to Destroy [Re: bradley]
#8400430 - 05/14/08 11:37 AM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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bradley said:
3) To Plunder
The bible gives ample permission for #3.
And what in hell gives the bible any right to justify something?
Cuz it's famous? How bout using your own decisions, standards and morals there bud, rather than laying all responsibility for your thinking and actions on the bible and religion?
"'We navigate our way into the future like someone driving who uses only the rearview mirror to tell them where they are going'--It's not a very successful strategy..."
-Terence Mckenna (quoting Marshall MacLuland)
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bradley
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As you insist, I will immediately stop invading cities and killing all the men and raping the women. My mistake.
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 daytripper23
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Re: The Urge to Destroy [Re: bradley]
#8401333 - 05/14/08 03:19 PM (4 months, 28 days ago) |
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mikebart101
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6:1 I saw that the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying, as with a voice of thunder, "Come and see!"
6:2 And behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow. A crown was given to him, and he came forth conquering, and to conquer.
6:3 When he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, "Come!"
6:4 Another came forth, a red horse. To him who sat on it was given power to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another. There was given to him a great sword.
6:5 When he opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying, "Come and see!" And behold, a black horse, and he who sat on it had a balance in his hand.
6:6 I heard a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, "A choenix of wheat for a denarius, and three choenix of barley for a denarius! Don't damage the oil and the wine!"
6:7 When he opened the fourth seal, I heard the fourth living creature saying, "Come and see!"
6:8 And behold, a pale horse, and he who sat on it, his name was Death. Hades followed with him. Authority over one fourth of the earth, to kill with the sword, with famine, with death, and by the wild animals of the earth was given to him.
6:9 When he opened the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been killed for the Word of God, and for the testimony of the Lamb which they had.
6:10 They cried with a loud voice, saying, "How long, Master, the holy and true, until you judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?"
6:11 A long white robe was given to each of them. They were told that they should rest yet for a while, until their fellow servants and their brothers, who would also be killed even as they were, should complete their course.
6:12 I saw when he opened the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake. The sun became black as sackcloth made of hair, and the whole moon became as blood.
6:13 The stars of the sky fell to the earth, like a fig tree dropping its unripe figs when it is shaken by a great wind.
6:14 The sky was removed like a scroll when it is rolled up. Every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
6:15 The kings of the earth, the princes, the commanding officers, the rich, the strong, and every slave and free person, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains.
6:16 They told the mountains and the rocks, "Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb,
6:17 for the great day of his wrath has come; and who is able to stand?"
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Spiritual Seeker
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Your very right. I can honestly say that there is something inside of me that urges to do those things. And i applaud you on the fact that YES those very words stir something inside me.
I havnt thought about it too much but great thinking. I dont try to avoid those things....I just try to do the opposite action. And sometimes things need to be destroyed in order for something better to arise.
Call it the "Devil working" or call it "Human instincts and defense"
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MyRedrum
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mikebart101 said:
Destruction provides the quickest opportunity for change.
i am in the process of breaking up with my boyfriend of a year, and i'm also moving across the state. i'm nervous but excited at the same time because of the changes i will experience. 
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