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 mikebart101
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#8397775 - 05/13/08 05:54 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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Selfless or Selfish?
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 Icelander
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shellfish.
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Oweyervishice
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Without serving my own needs first, how can I have a healthy relationship?
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I was taught a month ago
To bide my time and take it slow
But then I learned just yesterday
To rush and never waste the day
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mikebart101
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I don't think its possible. I posted a few weeks ago about the paradox of pure selfless love and being unable to have a relationship with simply one person. You should love ALL.
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 Rahz
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>>>>I posted a few weeks ago about the paradox of pure selfless love and being unable to have a relationship with simply one person. You should love ALL.
Could you recap or link? (sexual) relationship with ALL?
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dirtworshipper
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It's all a part of waking up.
Perhaps some people need a direct experience of Love for one person to fully manifest it for everyone?
I believe it really says something to be able to give yourself completely to someone; which can eventually lead to giving yourself to everyone.
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mikebart101
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Re: Relationships [Re: Rahz]
#8397856 - 05/13/08 06:16 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8247722/an/0/page/0
But there is a difference between seeking sex and seeking love. Ignore sex at the moment.
It seems today that most relationships are about fulfilling each parties attention needs; selfish indulgences based in god-complex beliefs brought on by today's society, but yet shouldn't you love others like thyself because it is yourself; that being selfish is as close to being selfless that one can get?
Should one have relationships (love) with all then?
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dblaney
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Relationships have tremendous potential for growth and learning. Through a romantic love relationship with someone, you are brought frequently up against your edges. You can learn about yourself. You can learn about desire. You can learn about self and other. You can learn about true love.
You can also stagnate and not grow much at all. What's important is the disposition of your mind. In and of themselves, relationships are neither good nor bad.
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"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
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OrgoneConclusion
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Re: Relationships [Re: Icelander]
#8397953 - 05/13/08 06:48 PM (3 months, 7 days ago) |
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Quote:
Icelander said:
shellfish.
Lobstradamus has spoken!
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dirtworshipper
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i'm telling you...
stand up comedian...
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OrgoneConclusion
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What is the difference between a lobster and a hit-and-run victim in Chinatown?
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dirtworshipper
Sitting in theheart cave
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Aum Shanti Shanti Shantihi (Aum! Peace! Peace! Peace be with Us All!)
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OrgoneConclusion
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No difference!
They are both crustaceans (crushed Asians).
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TheHappieHippies
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You got me. 
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GSP27
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I only learnt how to really love and appreciate life once I fell in love with someone.Now that I feel this love it's extremely difficult to look at a relationship the same way and in some ways I no longer see the point other than to fulfill my own desires and this upsets me to no end.
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Rahz
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Quote:
mikebart101 said:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8247722/an/0/page/0
But there is a difference between seeking sex and seeking love. Ignore sex at the moment.
It seems today that most relationships are about fulfilling each parties attention needs; selfish indulgences based in god-complex beliefs brought on by today's society, but yet shouldn't you love others like thyself because it is yourself; that being selfish is as close to being selfless that one can get?
Should one have relationships (love) with all then?
The whole matter of selfish/selfless seems to be an illusion. The more a person loves their self, the less of both, they will experience. The real usefulness of relationships with individuals is in their ability to cultivate self love. If two people can relate, they probably have some things to teach each other. To look at this as selfish, or selfless, seems profane.
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rahz
comfort pleasure power love truth awareness peace
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SyntheticMInd
turn on, tune in & chillout
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Re: Relationships [Re: Rahz]
#8399218 - 05/13/08 11:31 PM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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Rahz said:The real usefulness of relationships with individuals is in their ability to cultivate self love.
indeed, also sometimes it is necessary to drop certain relationships in order to accomplish this. even dropping everything for a while feels quite liberating.
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