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 BigJonMud
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 Level 5 without shrooms- NLP
#8387165 - 05/10/08 09:47 PM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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How many of you have heard of Neuro Linguistic Programming (NLP)?
An emerging field, in the study of human endeavour and excellence- It is almost the science of how to use your brain.
Probably the most excellent and easy application of NLP is anchoring. Based on Pavlov's experiments, where he anchored the dogs salivation to a particualr pitch of ringing bell.. he was able to make the dog hungry, without it even seeing or smelling the food. Just by ringing that bell after it had been anchored at the peak of the dogs hunger/salivation response.
The coolest thing about knowing that somethings, can remind us of other things.. is when you begin using it consiously.
Now, as someone begins to recall all the beautiful, fresh smells of spring.. the kind that flow on the breeze, to touch your nostrils and mind, and have you immediately recall all those previous springtimes..
You may have already started to wonder what would happen if you chose a certain stimulus to anchor the peak of your trip to. Because, if a certain song can start playing on the radio, and remind you so pefectly of all of some other time, person or experience.. So too, can you find a unique and particular way of developing a hardwired neurological association that will allow you to access the mushroom consciousness, instantly and upon will, whenever you so choose.
Now, when a person uses these simple NLP techniques in conjuction with pop hypnosis, and hypnotherpy skills.. not to mention the wisdom, that I cant be sure if youve already gained the mushroom knowledge pertaining to language.. and symbols.. but, certain experiences can be vividly recalled, and installed directly into the subconsious mind.
As if, you could just stop now and imagine what this means. (Being able to achieve a mystical state) At the drop of a hat. For years, I have already been anchoring and eliciting any and every experience ive ever had, or could want to have.. and thought I may just offer that same, automatic ease to you
Now, regardless of whether you're interested.. Have you ever heard Mckenna talk about the dream where you find that little glass pipe on the table? Or you're walking along the forest path.. and kneel down to find a patch of the most beautiful magic mushrooms you've ever seen. Then, begin to eat? Well, im here to share that I've had both- and also find methods from Kung Fu and Chi Gung that stimulate these regions of your brain naturally, and without side effects. In fact, being able to extend and prolong your vitality and health up towards indefinitely..
Don't you think that would be an interesting thing..? To feel..
Now, my point is this: If you've done it once... or know someone who has, it is absoloutely and naturally possible to recall and re-experience the same dramatic shifts in consciousness, without hhaving eaten or taken hallucingens at all.
Thankyou, and goodnight.
p.s Please feel free to comment on any and all of this post:) Even the smallest observation that you have had, would be appreciated feedback. It'l only take a second. Thankyou:)
Edited by BigJonMud (05/10/08 10:04 PM)
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 Apollyphelion
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 Re: Level 5 without shrooms- NLP [Re: BigJonMud]
#8387933 - 05/11/08 01:38 AM (4 months, 25 days ago) |
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I call it "Psychological Aeronautics Engineering" (PAE)
Like each association is the tinker-toy hub and the action/will of the thinker are the beams that hold them together.
I build lots of things.
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BurstingBeing
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Re: Level 5 without shrooms- NLP [Re: Apollyphelion]
#8390937 - 05/11/08 10:30 PM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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I have been doing NLP and Ericksonian hypnosis for about eight years now and one thing I have learned is that inbedded commands and sudo hypnosis over the net don't work and aren't subtle.
As far a eliciting drug states, it is possible. It's possible to elicit any state of mind. There was a book I read that had notes in it by Milton Erickson where he was doing a bunch of hypnosis experiments on Aldous Huxley. Including eliciting LSD type hallucinations. But that takes some skill and time.
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Re: Level 5 without shrooms- NLP [Re: BigJonMud]
#8391153 - 05/11/08 11:46 PM (4 months, 24 days ago) |
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BigJonMud said:
In fact, being able to extend and prolong your vitality and health up towards indefinitely..
Immortality? Where do I sign up?
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BigJonMud
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BurstingBeing said:
I have been doing NLP and Ericksonian hypnosis for about eight years now and one thing I have learned is that inbedded commands and sudo hypnosis over the net don't work and aren't subtle.
As far a eliciting drug states, it is possible. It's possible to elicit any state of mind. There was a book I read that had notes in it by Milton Erickson where he was doing a bunch of hypnosis experiments on Aldous Huxley. Including eliciting LSD type hallucinations. But that takes some skill and time.
I hear that a lot, but does it matter?
From experience, can u read something like that and not find new and useful associations?
Why do you think it doesnt work over the net? I can read any script, and put myself in a suitable state.. to experience it, or enjoy it.
I've been doing the 'secret inner smile' to the pineal gland.. and have had several natural DMT trips. The most extreme, was while I was already dreaming. It was so intense, I found myself reciting the lords prayser just in case-lol.
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Orbital_Saucer said:
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BigJonMud said:
In fact, being able to extend and prolong your vitality and health up towards indefinitely..
Immortality? Where do I sign up?
Here:
http://www.universal-tao.com/
For anyone interested in a natrual 10-12 day dmt trip, check out the 'darkness retreat' via the 'master school' button
Edited by BigJonMud (05/13/08 06:13 AM)
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ReoSpeedwagon153
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Re: Level 5 without shrooms- NLP [Re: BigJonMud]
#8395720 - 05/13/08 08:10 AM (4 months, 23 days ago) |
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These are cool ideas. Reminds me of the shaman's icaro- Tonal patterns that elicit certain states of consciousness. Must be some kind of 'stimulus anchor.'
I don't know though. I almost feel like I would prefer using chemicals and plants to reach different states of consciousness. It's not as though drugs are the easy way out or something - they require as much knowledge, practice and skill as any other spiritual path.
We all have different chemistry. Maybe I need to eat more grains than you do, or you require more time sleeping or something. It's the same thing... at this time in my life, I need drugs to get there, and I kind of like it that way.
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