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The topic of topics.
    #8391076 - 05/11/08 11:20 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

""You have arrived, by your effort alone, at what the shamans of ancient Mexico called the topic of topics," Don Juan

I'm just going to say it because I don't give a shit anymore. You know you've found the truth when a theory you hold keeps reconfirming and reinforcing itself over time rather than crumbling. lies crumble but the truth does not.

I didn't wake up one morning believing this shit. In fact, when I was first introduced to the idea I thought I was suckered. It was in a book by David Icke which dealt primarily with 9/11 being an inside job. So I'm reading this book, and everything is dandy and thought provoking, and at the end he get's into Reptilian shape-shifters controlling world affairs covertly through front-within-front-within-front, pyramid style. The all-seeing-eye represents the system they've created, and those at the top are the illuminated ones, or the Reptilians/demons which are in the 4th and 5th dimension using human fear energy as food. I slammed the book on the ground and thought of myself as a fool. Days and weeks went by, and even though the idea was absurd, the rest of what he said made perfect sense even through my own research, so in the back of my mind I just didn't know what to think of this Icke guy. Why tell the truth then introduce "green men" into it?

...Years later, now a veteran of the conspiracy from a generalist rather than a specialist perspective, the world actually makes perfect sense for the first time. I'm not talking about some things, but everything from the American car industry going under, to chemicals in our food, to the legalized drug dealer industry (read: medical industry), to disease (man-made), to the fucking raw almond ban, et cetera. Everything is desgined to supress us. The system that is in place is not build by humanity for humanity. It is a negative utopia that is anti-progress and pro-degradation. It is a system which keeps humanity in a state in which it can barely get bye, where it's blood has nearly stopped flowing but not quite]b]. A grand conspiracy that humans under their own mental power couldn't conceive. And if they could conceive it, they wouldn't be able to implement and sustain it.

For what end? As I said, fear energy. They need us because we are their sustanance. They don't seem to have souls --behaving purely through the bio-computer, with no consciousness behind it. On the grand scale they seem to be a means towards our evolution. But I'd rather not get into that.

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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #8391165 - 05/11/08 11:51 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

So why don't you try to import a ton of raw almonds into the country? If you get assassinated, we'll know you were telling the truth.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: Orbital_Saucer]
    #8391186 - 05/11/08 11:58 PM (3 months, 8 days ago)

how cum autism is so prevalent nowadays and it was not so in the past i wonder. FUCK THE EVIL EMPIRE


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8391197 - 05/12/08 12:02 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Why would the government *want* more autistic citizens? Think about this for a minute.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: Orbital_Saucer]
    #8391203 - 05/12/08 12:04 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

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So why don't you try to import a ton of raw almonds into the country? If you get assassinated, we'll know you were telling the truth.




You can import raw almonds. Very expensive. Get this: California "raw" almonds being sold domestically are pasteurized and coated with propylene oxide. PO was banned in nascar because it's so dangerous and toxic. They spray the almonds with this shit to kill the bacteria! Conclusion: Raw almonds are very good for you and empower you, therefore the Raw almond ban was passed. PO was added to really fuck you up physically and mentally.

But this thread isn't about almonds.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8391211 - 05/12/08 12:07 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

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how cum autism is so prevalent nowadays and it was not so in the past i wonder. FUCK THE EVIL EMPIRE




There is a link between autism and mercury. Mercury poisoning is primary caused by mercury fillings (silver fillings) in your teeth. Mercury is extremely toxic to humans, and it's being put in our teeth. That's the point. I know from experience how toxic it is. It caused bad depression for me, and other health problems.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #8391235 - 05/12/08 12:16 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Screw that, I play with mercury. It makes me happy. :smile:


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: Cameron]
    #8391240 - 05/12/08 12:19 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

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Why would the government *want* more autistic citizens? Think about this for a minute.




It's a good question, but It's difficult to answer in the particular sense since there are so many intracacies that I will easily not think of. On one hand, autism perhaps wasn't necessarily the goal, it was just an eventual result. I do believe mercury is the culprite just so you know. So they placed mercury in our teeth to dumb us down, and it caused autism as well.

As for your question, I really don't think there is a goal to create an autistic population. There's really no point. What the governments want are complacent, nonthinking and functional people able to labor the years away. Again, I do think autism is simply an extreme side-effect of the primary agenda, which is to dumb down the population through mercury. And it's not just mercury, it's many things: Flouride, aspertame (diet soda), msg (hydrolized soy/corn protien), irradiated food, pesticides, marijuana. (brought in by CIA to quell rebellion and fund the black gov)


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #8391263 - 05/12/08 12:29 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Autism in children is what im talking about newborns and such, its on the rise this is a fact i learned this when my son was born.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8391267 - 05/12/08 12:31 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Has nothing to do with the mercury levels of the parents either cuz in the studies done they were normal.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #8391270 - 05/12/08 12:32 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

And the tens of thousands of scientists, medical professionals, law makers, etc who decide whether these substances are safe for human use/consumption, are they in on the conspiracy too? Are the on-going debates over aspartame, fluoride, etc government conceived ploys to give the public the illusion of safety and control?

Sorry, but I think you give your government/my government much more credit than they deserve. They are simply not capable of deception on such a grand scale as this.

Also, I think American Idol, the local Pub, and the NFL dumb us down enough. We are still turning out Nobel Prize winners, brilliant musicians, and mathematical geniuses on a constant basis - all of whom are raised in the same environment as autistics, drunks, and hillbillies.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: Cameron]
    #8391349 - 05/12/08 01:04 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

In fact, many of said mathematicians are autistic.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: Cameron]
    #8391360 - 05/12/08 01:10 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

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And the tens of thousands of scientists, medical professionals, law makers, etc who decide whether these substances are safe for human use/consumption, are they in on the conspiracy too? Are the on-going debates over aspartame, fluoride, etc government conceived ploys to give the public the illusion of safety and control?

Sorry, but I think you give your government/my government much more credit than they deserve. They are simply not capable of deception on such a grand scale as this.

Also, I think American Idol, the local Pub, and the NFL dumb us down enough. We are still turning out Nobel Prize winners, brilliant musicians, and mathematical geniuses on a constant basis - all of whom are raised in the same environment as autistics, drunks, and hillbillies.




If you're asking me to convince you, I gotta say it's every man for himself when it comes to finding truth. I'm mearly expressing what I personally know to be true. As for your questions...

The system is structured so that people with benevolent intentions end up serving as melevolant slaves. For example, a "doctor." He wanted to help people so he decided to go to medical school. A noble and ambitious goal, but the end result after the brainwashing is an individual who knows how to poison people very well, but certainly not to cure them. That word is taboo in the medical field, replaced by the word 'treat,' as if they're feeding candy to the disease.

People aren't very outspoken when their jobs are on the line. And certainly not when they are paid well. I know a Romanian doctor personally, and I learned from him that a big paycheck and status pay lip service. And that goes for the scientists and law makers as well. But you're a bit one sided and so am I, because there are plenty of people risking their careers getting this stuff out. A dentist, for example, will get fired or his place shut down by the ADA if he speaks out against mercury. The ADA is like a church in a sense, and whatever they decide is the truth. So that's the structure: You create a monster (like the FDA) which tells you what is right and wrong, and the people are at the mercy of that "truth."

But these are all fronts and at the very top levels they know what true intentions the orginization serves. At face value, the FDA was created to protect the public. At the highest level, they know that the FDA was created to protect the public from cures (as one example). And those top persons are being told what to do by an even greater force. All corporations, such as Dell, Honda, Microsoft, are all compromized by bright people who gave alegiance through one secret society or another to serve the New World Order, which is what this is all about. Bill Gates, for example, isn't the boss of Microsoft. He can't just do anything with his company such as make an OS that is extremely user-friendly, since he would face consequences. Not that it would ever materialize.

As for your second comment, I agree in regards to TV. I like to call it the eye of Lucifer, not that I'm Christian or anything. But ummm... yeah, of course we're still producing talent, but I'm not sure what you're point is. Not everyone has mercury in their mouth, or fed poison. But these days the majority are, and look at the state of our health in this country. It's horrific.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: weiliiiiiii]
    #8391375 - 05/12/08 01:16 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

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Has nothing to do with the mercury levels of the parents either cuz in the studies done they were normal.




I'd like to see who did those studies.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: Cleft_Asunder]
    #8391466 - 05/12/08 01:55 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

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but the end result after the brainwashing is an individual who knows how to poison people very well, but certainly not to cure them. That word is taboo in the medical field, replaced by the word 'treat,' as if they're feeding candy to the disease.



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At face value, the FDA was created to protect the public. At the highest level, they know that the FDA was created to protect the public from cures (as one example).




Why are people living longer and with less disease than any other point in history?


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yeah, of course we're still producing talent, but I'm not sure what you're point is. Not everyone has mercury in their mouth, or fed poison. But these days the majority are, and look at the state of our health in this country. It's horrific.



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Again, I do think autism is simply an extreme side-effect of the primary agenda, which is to dumb down the population through mercury. And it's not just mercury, it's many things: Flouride, aspertame (diet soda), msg (hydrolized soy/corn protien), irradiated food, pesticides, marijuana. (brought in by CIA to quell rebellion and fund the black gov)




My point is that, like you said, *most* of the population is exposed to a vast number of these chemicals on a daily basis, and *most* of the population remain as healthy and intelligent as ever. College and University attendance is higher than ever before, scientific breakthroughs are more frequent and of more significance than ever before, technologicy is advancing faster than ever before, etc etc. If the government is really trying to dumb down the general population, they are doing a very poor job of it.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: Cameron]
    #8391470 - 05/12/08 01:56 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Ted Kaczynski's Unabomber manifesto has some very interesting points having to do with the inevitable evils brought on by industrialized society. I'd recommend checking it out.


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Re: The topic of topics. [Re: The Cypher]
    #8391494 - 05/12/08 02:07 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

Reading it as we speak. :wink:


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