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 ShiVersblood
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 Re: Anyone experience with Summoning Demons [Re: Diploid]
#8389922 - 05/11/08 05:37 PM |
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I don't have a credit card.
I think that it would not be complety bad news to summon a demon. If you have respect, perhaps you can help the demon and he can also help you. Like, making some kind of offering. I'm not sure what really. And then the Demon will bend things to go in your favor. I'm not afraid of it not going away and haunting my house etc.
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do you really believe that demons exist?
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Re: Anyone experience with Summoning Demons [Re: Atheist]
#8390168 - 05/11/08 06:31 PM |
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I have experience working with some of the Goetia. Do not mess with demons until you know you can protect yourself and banish them! It was at least 3 years of near-daily ritual and meditation before I tried evokation.
Without a doubt, the best useage of them is to help you clear the air, sort of speaking, in order to find useful info in resolving a difficult situation, or to have them reveal some of their knowledge. You can also use a demon to help you directly for something. However, with this, things have a tendency to not occur in the way or capacity desired. Be careful what you wish for as you might just get it!! I'm reminded of the tale of the person who wanted everything he touched to turn to gold. For this purpose, take my advice and use a demon only at the last resort for necessity only(not greed). An even worse way of working with one is for black magick in order to restrict the will of another. Sure, it might just work, but the demon might very well have a little something in store for the summoner as well.
Nobody really needs to play about with them, but I'll admit there is an appeal to it. I prefered working with the Goetia by transvocation as opposed to the traditional evocational methods. They seemed very willing to share their knowledge this way; with evoking, it was like dealing with a shady mechanic("No I do'nt want to work on your car, but I'll do it as it's my job. But it's gonna cost ya and I might just go out for a joyride or two"). They require patience and a lack of fear(edit-or a gaggle of controlled fear!).
Just shoe the ignore-ants of this thread away and think, no wait, do'nt think about if you need to summon. Maybe use divination on the matter. But usually, if ya have to ask...do'nt.
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Re: Anyone experience with Summoning Demons [Re: lavod]
#8394658 - 05/12/08 09:53 PM |
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Summoning a demon to help you with something is like taking a pill to cure a headache, but getting malaria from the pill.
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Re: Anyone experience with Summoning Demons [Re: Diploid]
#8394736 - 05/12/08 10:10 PM |
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For all you know, the demon came, and you've become possessed!!
Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids!!
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Re: Anyone experience with Summoning Demons [Re: Diploid]
#8395121 - 05/13/08 12:18 AM |
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why not summon an angel instead?
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Identifying and objectifying one's inner demons is necessary before the ego can communicate with the Overself.
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truekimbo2 said:
why would you want to summon a demon? either its fake and its a pointless waste of time, or its real and you completely fuck yourself over.
lose lose?
why not summon a buhhda
QFT.
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Re: Anyone experience with Summoning Demons [Re: zorbman]
#8404150 - 05/15/08 05:59 AM |
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id take a look at this
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8366469/an/0/page/0
if you so hardly believe in magic or are interested , id think twice.
not just from this link either.
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if you believe in something , you should with your heart.
one of the key aspects of magic is too believe , just as god , or what have you.
if you have doubts then , you are unsure , and the art would have a useless meaning.
but if you consider or agree with this then , you would have too consider the other , myths or perceptions of what is.
like karma for instance.
also ,
if you believe that you can summon angels.
you are not christian
though i could care less if you are , i am not.
i respect those beliefs though.
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demons are fake
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Re: Anyone experience with Summoning Demons [Re: Atheist]
#8405099 - 05/15/08 12:14 PM |
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demons are fake
And you know this how?
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because its obvious?
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Re: Anyone experience with Summoning Demons [Re: Atheist]
#8405148 - 05/15/08 12:29 PM |
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I'm sorry but that's downright ignorant of you to say that. How would you know they don't exist?
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'demons are fake'
Socrates was known to follow the guidance of his inner d(a)emon...
He was forced to drink the hemlock for corrupting the youth and teaching them atheism.
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what about this
"The Horned Skull"
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/108/demonbig1bc7.jpg
The Horned Skull The existence of what appears to be a horned human skull is probably one of the most controversial artifacts in existence, and certainly not one that medical science can easily explain away. The skull is said to have been discovered in France between 1920 and 1940, but its current whereabouts are unknown. Surnateum, The Museum of Supernatural History, however, claims to have analysed the skull. Their analysis demonstrated that the horns were genuinely part of the skull. The analysis concluded: ‘An in-depth examination and X-rays leave no room for doubt: the skull is not a forgery.’
It appears that this horned skull was not the only one of its kind. Giant skeletons of horned men over seven feet tall are reported to have been exhumed from an ancient burial mound in the USA in the 1880s. It was estimated that the bodies were buried around 1200 AD. Like the horned skull in the photo, the horns of the Pennsylvanian giants were reported to begin above the eye sockets.
The find was made by a reputable group of antiquarians, including the Pennsylvania state historian Dr. G.P Donehoo, a Presbyterian Church official and two professors; A.B. Skinner, of the American Investigating Museum, and W. K. Morehead, of Phillips Academy, Andover, Massachusetts. After the discovery which was made in the town of Sayre, Bradford County, Pennsylvania the remains were sent to the American Investigating Museum in Philadelphia, where Skinner was based. The Museum later claimed that the remains had been stolen, and they were never recovered
Is it simply coincidence that horned giants, which could easily be likened to the mythological Satyr or Pan, were discovered in a town called Sayre? Without the remains, there is little to go on except the testimony of witnesses, legends and mythology. Horned creatures have been associated with ‘Gods’ across the world, from Norse mythology to esoteric philosophy. Baphomet, for example, was worshiped by the Knights Templar; and the Vikings wore symbolic horns on their helmets. Giants, in the form of alien-human hybrids known as the Nephilim, also form an important element of the Old Testament. It’s certainly interesting to ponder a possible connection between aliens, mythological gods, and these horned giants.
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Quote:
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I'm sorry but that's downright ignorant of you to say that. How would you know they don't exist?
okay fine, its obvious because there is not one piece of evidence pointing in favor of their existence.
they are in the same category as: angels, spirits, boogey monster, etc
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Re: Anyone experience with Summoning Demons [Re: Atheist]
#8405892 - 05/15/08 04:07 PM |
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cleverwise, don't even attempt to present evidence that demons exist. You will get shot down every time.
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Re: Anyone experience with Summoning Demons [Re: zouden]
#8406001 - 05/15/08 04:38 PM |
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i wasnt presenting that they exsist
you assunmed that is what i meant .
as it stated
"what about this."
just a thought that could be , there is malformations and other abnormalitys in this world.
you perceived me as preaching this as i was only showing people something that coincide with this thread
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Re: Anyone experience with Summoning Demons [Re: Atheist]
#8406047 - 05/15/08 04:52 PM |
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Atheist said:
because
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Therein lies your folly o dizzy dog who chases its tail of perceived reason.
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