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 albien5
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#8389536 - 05/11/08 03:41 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Hello everyone.
Today i drunk some kratom, it didnt relaxed as i would like to. And i took one tea of Valerian.
Now i am fully relaxed from tha kratom overstimulation .
I am taking kratom often almost once a week. Its a good plant to have fun, but some times its dangerous. Once send me to the hospital for weeks, but i like it. Its very addictive.
I can leave without it but with it its better.
What is your opinion about kratom addiction?
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Re: kratom addiction [Re: albien5]
#8389553 - 05/11/08 03:50 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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if it has sent you to the hospital before for weeks, do you honestly think it's worth being addicted to?
is anything worth that?
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Re: kratom addiction [Re: grymmtymm]
#8389558 - 05/11/08 03:51 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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wtf how did kratom hospitalize u
hard to believe
i do kratom everyday
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albien5
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Re: kratom addiction [Re: grymmtymm]
#8389572 - 05/11/08 03:56 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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Yes you are right.
It doesnt worth what it did.
but my mind thinking of it a lot... Its addiction.
For the addiction i am meditate with dmt and helps me a lot, i will cut it when i will be fully now what is going on with me.
Its just another path i am going through.
[EDIT] It hospitalize me because i took one bottle with alcohol and kratom alcohols. The dose was 1 ml and i took 10ml. My friend didnt told me that was only 1ml the dose.
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Edited by albien5 (05/11/08 04:00 PM)
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Re: kratom addiction [Re: albien5]
#8389591 - 05/11/08 04:04 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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i used to do drugs a lot more than i do now, but am older and wiser, i now see that really they don't help me, in any real way, other than to kill a few hours doing nothing, unless i use them for a religious/spiritual purpose. which i never have. and that is why i have cut back on them greatly. i still do shrooms every once in awhile cause i don't see the harm in using harmless drugs such as shrooms and weed. but i don't agree with using hard drugs, that have a higher potential to hurt you, and are highly addictive in nature. i have always had a very independent attitude and never liked the idea of doing something that makes me feel that i need to do it..
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Re: kratom addiction [Re: grymmtymm]
#8389617 - 05/11/08 04:12 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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i do kratom and alcohol all the time
ur body must hate u
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Re: kratom addiction [Re: Coaster]
#8389642 - 05/11/08 04:20 PM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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kratom isnt as hard as real opiates, alcohol is proly harder than kratom in fact
the op doesnt have very good english, but i doubt he is truely addicted from using it weekly, hes talking about fiending for it from what i understand
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albien5
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Yes i am not English speaking! So what?
The addiction i have is close to the "addiction" of weed.
I opened this thread cause i want to know if the addiction of Kratom can rich opiates and as i understood it isnt.
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Re: kratom addiction [Re: albien5]
#8392002 - 05/12/08 09:32 AM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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from what I understand, you can get physically addicted to Kratom, which is more than weed, but not nearly as bad as hard opiates.
If you're just using weekly, you shouldn't really be worried. Just don't do so much to send yourself to the hospital again!
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todaymylove
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yeah with weekly i cant see any real physical addiction forming.
try multiple times daily, for a couple of months
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ShroomingNJ
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Ever suck dick for kratom ?
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^Sucking dick is a prerequisite for addiction?
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Re: kratom addiction [Re: LSDreamer]
#8392267 - 05/12/08 11:09 AM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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it would be a good indicator
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Coaster
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wut if ur addicted to sucking dick
i no my gf is 
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Re: kratom addiction [Re: Coaster]
#8392483 - 05/12/08 12:10 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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Quote:
Coaster said:
wut if ur addicted to sucking dick
i no my gf is
she sure is, just not to sucking your dick. 
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I dont get it, i got sum kratom a few differnet types and i think it sucks bigtime, all i did was feel nothing lying down, but if i stood up i felt majorly nautious, i get more sedated of weed.
I was always interested in opiates as sedation sounds pretty euphoric.
I sent off my kratom to a dude on another forum for free i thought it blowed so much.
One mans trash...
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Re: kratom addiction [Re: albien5]
#8393872 - 05/12/08 06:58 PM (3 months, 8 days ago) |
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Quote:
albien5 said:
Yes i am not English speaking! So what?
The addiction i have is close to the "addiction" of weed.
I opened this thread cause i want to know if the addiction of Kratom can rich opiates and as i understood it isnt.
ya i figured u were talking about psychological addiction
just keep it in moderation, so u dont get opiate-type addiction
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whats kratom
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Quote:
weiliiiiiii said:
whats kratom
lol
its a tree from thailand and malaysia that has an indole chemical thats a mu-opiod agonist
NOTE: it is an opioid agonist, NOT an opiate, it is an indole
it is currently perfectly legal and can be bought from any ethno supplier
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I love Kratom. It's the other marijuana, beef is to chicken as marijuana is to kratom (To me atleast!). One thing I have found odd though, is that the best way to get a buzz off of Kratom is through chewing it. You have to smoke way too much to get a buzz and If you make a tea it never really seems to work. Only chewing it seems to work. It doesn't take nearly as long as you think it would to take effect when you chew it either. I think maybe 5-10 mins. Perhaps it is absorbed through the mouth? Anyway, I order a couple oz's at a time from bouncing bear. Great stuff.
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