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And his dog, Benji.
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 Chronic777
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Fair enough, but being emotionally moved tells us what? Just about the most charismatic figure of the last century was unquestionably Adolf Hitler. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, felt he spoke to their spirit in an uplifting manner.
Charisma is necessary to a manipulator. All great politicians have it. It has nothing to do with being spiritually advanced.
Do you see what I am getting at?
Yes i do dude, people are lost & easily led, so i admire you for your questioning, for not just saying "everyone thinks we are one, so ill follow..." thats admirable because then you are not just blindly following as many are.
But turning this questioning nature inwards can work wonders. Thats is all that Mooji teaches, to question the obvious, what is this "I" that arises as all these multiple lives? He doesn't manipulate as he doesn't tell you anything apart from to keep going inwards. Like he doesn't say its so blissfull & ecstatic blah blah, he just shows you how to get there. A true teacher. A Buddha will tell you to doubt him, but to simply try what hes suggesting, which is just a simple technique of asking "who am I?"
Asking "who am i?" is just like asking "what is life?", but looking internally instead of externally. Externally there are billions of answers, internally there is only one.
An enquiring mind should relish this technique of looking within, to keep diving deeper & deeper until they touch existence itself, which they are!
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Knowing yourself is to know the infinite Awareness that is seeing from the core of all beings
In an attempt to see itself infinite Awareness creates endlessly
It sees all creations but remains unseen
The consciousness "I" is its first reflection
Even the power to see is seen within itself
Naturally seeing flows outwards, focusing on the seen & interpreting nature
If the seeing stops flowing out & sees inwardly, to observe the nature of Self
the hypnotic cycles of identification are destroyed & liberation is attained
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i have learned a lot from benji
dog mind is the most basic social puppy
also big dog small dog and butt sniffing
oh my benji
i miss him so much.
but about the many buddha's
often when they take off their robes they are not buddha any more, and sometimes when they put on their robes they are not buddha's at all.
it is nice to find one and feel like you are home, and then wake up and come back home again carrying your sachel with sake or vodka to share in it.
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OrgoneConclusion
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Thats is all that Mooji teaches, to question the obvious
I do that everyday. What is the point of having another person to remind me of that?
I pointed out years ago, that if one great teacher helped to awaken only two people in his entire lifetime out of the thousands that he came in contact with; and those awakened disciples awoke only two in their lifetime and so forth, the entire world would be awake by now, but alas not a single basic thing about humans has changed in 10,000 years.
Zillions of people flock to teachers and all remain basically unaltered. Doesn't seem very worthwhile nor is there any way whatsoever to discern who is a good teacher nor even if they have more knowledge/wisdom than the devotee.
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Chronic777
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Thats is all that Mooji teaches, to question the obvious
I do that everyday. What is the point of having another person to remind me of that?
Question the most obvious, the thought "I am"
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redgreenvines said:
i have learned a lot from benji
dog mind is the most basic social puppy
also big dog small dog and butt sniffing
oh my benji
i miss him so much.
Pavlovian training is very deep if you take a look at your own minds functioning & how its been trained to be a "good boy"
Id recommend instead of giving the mind biscuits to keep it happy, starve the fucker and watch it die 
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Knowing yourself is to know the infinite Awareness that is seeing from the core of all beings
In an attempt to see itself infinite Awareness creates endlessly
It sees all creations but remains unseen
The consciousness "I" is its first reflection
Even the power to see is seen within itself
Naturally seeing flows outwards, focusing on the seen & interpreting nature
If the seeing stops flowing out & sees inwardly, to observe the nature of Self
the hypnotic cycles of identification are destroyed & liberation is attained
Edited by Chronic777 (05/12/08 11:18 AM)
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redgreenvines
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yes I see,
lots of attitude (growling)
you need to go back to satsang soon and get fluffed up again.
(master and puppy have to come together, that is benji's message to mankind)
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Chronic777
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LOL its a gentle death.
Mooji actually said yesterday "shoot the questioner", when the questioner & question disappears whats left!?
I really cant wait until next satsang, if i feel like this after 2 hours with him, after 2 days its gonna be an experience for sure.
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Knowing yourself is to know the infinite Awareness that is seeing from the core of all beings
In an attempt to see itself infinite Awareness creates endlessly
It sees all creations but remains unseen
The consciousness "I" is its first reflection
Even the power to see is seen within itself
Naturally seeing flows outwards, focusing on the seen & interpreting nature
If the seeing stops flowing out & sees inwardly, to observe the nature of Self
the hypnotic cycles of identification are destroyed & liberation is attained
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OrgoneConclusion
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I really cant wait until next satsang
That certainly is living in the now. 
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if i feel like this after 2 hours with him, after 2 days its gonna be an experience for sure.
Stuck in addiction to sensation and projection. How wonderful.
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Icelander
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Jus like Fivepointer, you miss the point again and again.
You tell us some guy is a Buddha.
Someone else tells me their teacher (Jim Jones or ?) is also a Buddha/prophet.
I should believe you and not someone else because...?
Forget the cult thing. Address the fact that zillions of people follow false teachers and swear they are true - JUST LIKE YOU!
Your discernment is impeccable and everyone elses' is far afield?
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I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
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Chronic777
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Icelander said:
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Jus like Fivepointer, you miss the point again and again.
You tell us some guy is a Buddha.
Someone else tells me their teacher (Jim Jones or ?) is also a Buddha/prophet.
I should believe you and not someone else because...?
Forget the cult thing. Address the fact that zillions of people follow false teachers and swear they are true - JUST LIKE YOU!
Your discernment is impeccable and everyone elses' is far afield?
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Well that includes both your discernments aswell don't forget, which could be wrong (aswell as mine)
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Knowing yourself is to know the infinite Awareness that is seeing from the core of all beings
In an attempt to see itself infinite Awareness creates endlessly
It sees all creations but remains unseen
The consciousness "I" is its first reflection
Even the power to see is seen within itself
Naturally seeing flows outwards, focusing on the seen & interpreting nature
If the seeing stops flowing out & sees inwardly, to observe the nature of Self
the hypnotic cycles of identification are destroyed & liberation is attained
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Icelander
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Finally you say something I can agree with.
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What the thinker thinks, the prover proves. R.A.W.
I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
“I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” ~Stephen Roberts
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OrgoneConclusion
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Naturally, you miss the point. So much for awareness training.
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Chronic777
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Naturally, you miss the point. So much for awareness training.
As far as i'm concerned, you miss the point, as far as your concerned, i miss the point. I already replyed to that post before...
Saying that my discernment could be wrong is fine for you, but you cant admit that yours could be wrong?
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Knowing yourself is to know the infinite Awareness that is seeing from the core of all beings
In an attempt to see itself infinite Awareness creates endlessly
It sees all creations but remains unseen
The consciousness "I" is its first reflection
Even the power to see is seen within itself
Naturally seeing flows outwards, focusing on the seen & interpreting nature
If the seeing stops flowing out & sees inwardly, to observe the nature of Self
the hypnotic cycles of identification are destroyed & liberation is attained
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OrgoneConclusion
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but you cant admit that yours could be wrong?
It could be if I was claiming something on this thread, but I am not. Nowhere did I say I had access to a great teacher nor a great truth. What would you have me admit, my little wave?
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Chronic777
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 you joker
I didnt mean that condescendingly! Seriously im not laughing at you dude, just right now all i can do is laugh, isn't life so cosmically hilarious? 
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Knowing yourself is to know the infinite Awareness that is seeing from the core of all beings
In an attempt to see itself infinite Awareness creates endlessly
It sees all creations but remains unseen
The consciousness "I" is its first reflection
Even the power to see is seen within itself
Naturally seeing flows outwards, focusing on the seen & interpreting nature
If the seeing stops flowing out & sees inwardly, to observe the nature of Self
the hypnotic cycles of identification are destroyed & liberation is attained
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SyntheticMInd said:
how have your dreams changed since realizing?
Simply happy  (ps theres nothing to realise really, life is just good)
ime there is much more awarenesss to realize not only in dreams but the waking state as well.
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 Re: Satsang! [Re: deranger]
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SyntheticMInd said:
how have your dreams changed since realizing?
Simply happy (ps theres nothing to realise really, life is just good)
ime there is much more awarenesss to realize not only in dreams but the waking state as well.
Dude my dreams have changed considerably the last few months, they seem to revolve around healing old hang ups, and meeting people before i meet them in waking states. Ive also dreamed about daisy chains of people dancing in fields with flowers in they're hair.
I just think thats more appropriate for M&S 
There is much to realise but in regards to awakening/enlightenment its more realising that i've been dreaming the whole time, this whole life has been a dream, and as i've believed myself to be awake all this time, it now feels like im dreaming!
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Knowing yourself is to know the infinite Awareness that is seeing from the core of all beings
In an attempt to see itself infinite Awareness creates endlessly
It sees all creations but remains unseen
The consciousness "I" is its first reflection
Even the power to see is seen within itself
Naturally seeing flows outwards, focusing on the seen & interpreting nature
If the seeing stops flowing out & sees inwardly, to observe the nature of Self
the hypnotic cycles of identification are destroyed & liberation is attained
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OrgoneConclusion
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Ive also dreamed about daisy chains of people dancing in fields with flowers in they're hair.
That's exclusionary to bald people. 
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Chronic777
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Ive also dreamed about daisy chains of people dancing in fields with flowers in they're hair.
That's exclusionary to bald people.
What about pubic hair?
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Knowing yourself is to know the infinite Awareness that is seeing from the core of all beings
In an attempt to see itself infinite Awareness creates endlessly
It sees all creations but remains unseen
The consciousness "I" is its first reflection
Even the power to see is seen within itself
Naturally seeing flows outwards, focusing on the seen & interpreting nature
If the seeing stops flowing out & sees inwardly, to observe the nature of Self
the hypnotic cycles of identification are destroyed & liberation is attained
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Icelander
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Chronic777 said:
you joker
I didnt mean that condescendingly! Seriously im not laughing at you dude, just right now all i can do is laugh, isn't life so cosmically hilarious?
Wow! you're so awake and spiritual. To be able to laugh at life like that. Wow!
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I don't believe anything, but I have many suspicions. R.A.W.
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