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 Cannabis: who cares if it's B or C?
#8380836 - 05/09/08 05:26 AM |
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When Jacqui Smith, the Home Secretary, admitted that she had smoked cannabis at university, surprised Oxford contemporaries said they remembered her as “dull and boring”. But there is no contradiction. Dope-smoking makes you dull.
If Ms Smith wants to reclassify cannabis in an attempt to put youngsters off, maybe it should be as B for Boring - especially for those who passively inhale the weed-smoking dweeb's nonsense. Perhaps, as reported by the satirical website The Daily Mash, we need a health warning on big cigarette papers: “Cannabis smoking will lead to a slow and painful conversation.”
Like Ms Smith and other ministers, I too can confess to “experimenting” briefly at university, although luckily I quit before exhibiting the symptoms of a narrow mind. Dope-smoking was just so ear-bleedingly dreary - the palaver of rolling a joint, the unpleasant taste and above all the feelings of self-obsessed paranoia and unhappy hippydom. The worrying side-effect was not the distant risk of schizophrenia but the immediate prospect of intellectual sedation.
That was why, like most students in Manchester, I stuck to the old-school drug of youth, alcohol. Now drinking is frowned upon not only by the Home Office but by smug dopeheads who claim that smoking cannabis is somehow morally superior. There can, of course, be an antisocial side to booze. But there is also a far more sociable aspect. It is conducive to having a laugh with friends in the pub rather than a lonely fit of giggles in the corner of a dope-smoke- filled room, and tends to make people feel confident and amorous rather than insecure and useless. Being preached to by “civilised” cannabis smokers might make the most pacifist drinker feel like punching their lights out.
If there is anything duller than a dopehead, it is the endless debate about whether cannabis should be Class B or C. Frankly, who gives an F? The classification system makes as much sense as a spliffed-up student discussing moral philosophy. It bears little relation to the risks or popularity of any drug.
Magic mushrooms, for example, are Class A even though, as one doctor says, “it is doubtful whether they ever cause more than a bellyache”. Ecstasy's Class A status has not dissuaded a generation of users from inducing a dance-trance that appears more moronic than ecstatic. Ritalin remains a Class B drug, yet is freely doled out to “hyperactive” children. As for cannabis, its popularity has fallen since it was last downgraded to C.
Might that have something to do with those ministers admitting that they tried it? Perhaps Ms Smith's best preventative option would be to declare that dope is now officially classed C for Cool.
Or maybe new Labour should give up the attempt to reclassify itself as a Class A Government by waging another phoney war on drugs, and instead try inspiring young people with something more mind-expanding than dope.
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Irdamage
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Uhg...This article was filled with a smug sense of self importance from the writer. Bad article obviously written by someone with out any first hand experience, beyond "trying dope in university but stopping before it made me narrow minded".
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SillyButtons
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Being preached to by “civilised” cannabis smokers might make the most pacifist drinker feel like punching their lights out.
No, you stupid twat, alcohol makes normally peaceful people want to fight, not being "preached at." Go to the back of the class and shut your stinking hole. 
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 DragonChaser
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Sounds like this writer is a wine-sipping fart sniffing buffoon.
Lame. -5 shrooms to you, English writer
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I'm going to defend this guy.
I disagree with his points. He needs to try fucking someone when he's so drunk he can't get it up or remember who he slept with, compared to getting high and having the most mindblowing orgasm (I dunno about you guys, but if I want to trip out when smoking cannabis, sex/wanking helps a LOT).
He's actually being quite clever, appealing to those that don't smoke it by saying it's a dull drug and not cool. Hey, it works for the Dutch, not many smoke it there, but those that do know better, and they also know that it doesn't matter what they say, because tonight when I'm going to be high again I can sleep content, have vivid dreams, fantastic sex, awesome ideas, and wake up with no hangover and an increased appetite for nature and life.
He's still a dick about boozing and fucking though. Clumsy, messy (in the bad way) affair.
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Molasses
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mushrooms only cause a belly ache... i'm gonna have to remember that the next time i eat some.
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DragonChaser
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Re: Cannabis: who cares if it's B or C? [Re: Molasses]
#8381131 - 05/09/08 09:28 AM |
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Molasses said:
mushrooms only cause a belly ache... i'm gonna have to remember that the next time i eat some.
I think he meant thats the worst that can happen from eating them.
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PsilocybinMike
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Now drinking is frowned upon not only by the Home Office but by smug dopeheads who claim that smoking cannabis is somehow morally superior.
Yea, because the cops have to come out to the bars every night and deal with the disorderly people all hopped up on "dope". That was just one of the many flaws I found in this article, what a steaming pile of shit this is. Wow.
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Grapefruit
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I work as a commis chef in a pub and i assure you all, people in pubs dont actually really talk about anything much. Yeh they do a lot of talking but they talk about nothing. Oh, and intellect? doesnt take a genius to see you dont find this in a pub. Alcohol quite clearly kills more braincells than any other drug, bar mdma.
Stoners talk about interesting things because they actually think before they talk.
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ShroomNinja
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But thats the problem.... you think! If you think you might realise that things aren't all peachy keen in society.
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The worrying side-effect was not the distant risk of schizophrenia but the immediate prospect of intellectual sedation.
Intellectual sedation... naaa
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Coaster
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Grapefruit said:
I work as a commis chef in a pub and i assure you all, people in pubs dont actually really talk about anything much. Yeh they do a lot of talking but they talk about nothing. Oh, and intellect? doesnt take a genius to see you dont find this in a pub. Alcohol quite clearly kills more braincells than any other drug, bar mdma.
Stoners talk about interesting things because they actually think before they talk.
did u just say that mdma kills more brain cells than alcy?
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Re: Cannabis: who cares if it's B or C? [Re: Coaster]
#8382187 - 05/09/08 03:18 PM |
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MDMA does not kill brain cells. With extreme and repeated use it causes axon degeneration in the seratonin system. The cells themselves are completely unharmed.
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Grapefruit said:
I work as a commis chef in a pub and i assure you all, people in pubs dont actually really talk about anything much. Yeh they do a lot of talking but they talk about nothing. Oh, and intellect? doesnt take a genius to see you dont find this in a pub.
I work behind a bar and I've got to agree completely. People talk about 1) work, 2) relationships, or 3) sports. Most often they talk shit on and apply flimsy pop-psych to whichever one of their friends isn't there.
I worked at a sports bar and I can attest to the particularly violent combination of steroids and alcohol. I've never had anyone go from smoking with me one minute to swinging at me the next.
Also, we had plenty of yuppie business guys come in for happy hour and after their first two drinks go out to the parking lot and come back in smelling like the reefer. For the rest of the night they would be the life of the party.
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