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Selling Venom
    #8377784 - 05/08/08 02:06 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

What are the repercussions of selling snake venom?
I catch W.Moc. and Eastern D.Rattlesnakes all the time ......and a few Massaguas,Pygmy Rattlers and copperheads.
All of witch milk super easy.


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
    #8377804 - 05/08/08 02:11 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

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Re: Selling Venom [Re: sonicnirvana]
    #8377835 - 05/08/08 02:18 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

Guantanamo bay, you will probably be labeled as a suspected terrorist.


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: biggysmall]
    #8377879 - 05/08/08 02:31 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

what psychoactive drug does snake venom contain?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: woohoo1000]
    #8377890 - 05/08/08 02:34 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

it is only psychoactive if you inject it into your artery.


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: biggysmall]
    #8378364 - 05/08/08 04:51 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

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Re: Selling Venom [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #8378700 - 05/08/08 06:11 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

I see no problems other than it's quite unstable. You'll want to do the milking in front of your flowhood, and milk into sterile jars.

The commercially available venom from Sigma Scientific is freeze dried and shipped frozen.
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8379282 - 05/08/08 08:24 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

Sorry I`m new.

Is this to imobilize the cell
Or weaken the cell wall to exchange genetic material?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8381135 - 05/09/08 09:30 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
I see no problems other than it's quite unstable. You'll want to do the milking in front of your flowhood, and milk into sterile jars.

The commercially available venom from Sigma Scientific is freeze dried and shipped frozen.
RR




RR, do you still use snake venom to cross strains?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: Neobean]
    #8383120 - 05/09/08 08:25 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I'll be working with it again soon, but in attempts to cross species, not strains.
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8383180 - 05/09/08 08:44 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Are they actually selling that to just anybody (with an account, of course) that happens to ask for it? Would be nice anyway. Part # for the specific type you use?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: MycoAu]
    #8383198 - 05/09/08 08:52 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

It's a pretty intensive clearing process before they'll let you order purified venom. You'll have to be 'interviewed' by at least three different people, one of whom I suspected was law enforcement. Think about it. . .it's the perfect murder weapon.
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8384706 - 05/10/08 09:20 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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RogerRabbit said:
I'll be working with it again soon, but in attempts to cross species, not strains.
RR




I imagine it might have already been done, but will you try to cross cubes with panaeolus? How long is the crossing process and how do you know if you have succeeded, besides final results of course...?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: Neobean]
    #8385044 - 05/10/08 12:01 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Ok, so the venom is probably going to be a long time waiting. There is another thread in which somebody is suggesting the use of Salicylic acid. It's cheap and plentiful without all the hassle of venom. But... does it work? I have no idea, but somebody out there has the impression that it does.

Does anybody know?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: MycoAu]
    #8385171 - 05/10/08 12:47 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Salicylic acid.....I think they read about it being used in plant test.


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
    #8387686 - 05/11/08 12:17 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

This is driving me nuts.

I have heard about this whole snake venom thing, and heard that its complete bullshit...

What does snake venom have anything to do with Mushrooms?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #8388103 - 05/11/08 03:53 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

Quote:

Cryogenicz said:
This is driving me nuts.

I have heard about this whole snake venom thing, and heard that its complete bullshit...

What does snake venom have anything to do with Mushrooms?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
    #8391729 - 05/12/08 06:39 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
I'll be working with it again soon, but in attempts to cross species, not strains.
RR


oh man you have to keep us posted.
or are you just gonna hide everything untill your done? What are you trying pans and cubes ?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
    #8392042 - 05/12/08 09:51 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Quote:

em_bre_O said:
Quote:

Cryogenicz said:
This is driving me nuts.

I have heard about this whole snake venom thing, and heard that its complete bullshit...

What does snake venom have anything to do with Mushrooms?


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It seems like crap to me, but I haven't done any research on it... so.


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: grod31]
    #8392044 - 05/12/08 09:52 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

the only way to keep it stable for extended lengths of time is freeze-drying and low temps. i posted this in another venom thread, the active compounds in rattlesnake venom are proteases that chew up proteins, but being proteins themselves they "auto-digest" (think auto-immune diseases) and slowly degrade themselves to zero activity. but , i remember seeing videos on snake venom banks where they pull liquid from fridge-looking things, so who knows. perhaps you could call up one such place and ask about storage. look into buying a lyophilizer (free-dryer), but you need liquid nitrogen to do this.


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #8393388 - 05/12/08 04:27 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Quote:

Cryogenicz said:
Quote:

em_bre_O said:
Quote:

Cryogenicz said:
This is driving me nuts.

I have heard about this whole snake venom thing, and heard that its complete bullshit...

What does snake venom have anything to do with Mushrooms?


-Graham





NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE TELLING YOU this........search!!




It seems like crap to me, but I haven't done any research on it... so.


-Graham





well then.....ADIOS!


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #8436201 - 05/23/08 08:37 AM (3 months, 6 days ago)

Well then if you haven’t done your research then why the hell are you talking... No one cares of you think its crap because if you took oh I don’t know... 45 seconds and searched you could see it’s got a rather significant role in mycology. Maybe not cultivation, but the genetic part when it comes to strain or species crossing absolutely. Not that I know much myself but I do know it has a role and more than anything I know not to voice my opinions about things I know jack shit about. Just my 2cents...


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
    #8436842 - 05/23/08 01:01 PM (3 months, 5 days ago)

After being away for a couple years, I'm amazed by all the new info.

Snake venom hybrids? Magnificent, haha


I'm gonna look into salicylic acid instead though, since it appears it may be able to be used for the same purpose.

I wonder how realistic a weilii/cubensis hybrid would be?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: MycoAu]
    #8437117 - 05/23/08 02:21 PM (3 months, 5 days ago)

Nicotinic Acid (niacin) has also been used in fungal crossing. Just make sure its actually nicotinic acid because alot of places use "flush-free" niacin which is usually Inositol hexaniacinate.


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