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Selling Venom
    #8377784 - 05/08/08 02:06 PM

What are the repercussions of selling snake venom?
I catch W.Moc. and Eastern D.Rattlesnakes all the time ......and a few Massaguas,Pygmy Rattlers and copperheads.
All of witch milk super easy.


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
    #8377804 - 05/08/08 02:11 PM

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Re: Selling Venom [Re: sonicnirvana]
    #8377835 - 05/08/08 02:18 PM

Guantanamo bay, you will probably be labeled as a suspected terrorist.


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: biggysmall]
    #8377879 - 05/08/08 02:31 PM

what psychoactive drug does snake venom contain?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: woohoo1000]
    #8377890 - 05/08/08 02:34 PM

it is only psychoactive if you inject it into your artery.


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: biggysmall]
    #8378364 - 05/08/08 04:51 PM

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Re: Selling Venom [Re: legallyhomeless]
    #8378700 - 05/08/08 06:11 PM

I see no problems other than it's quite unstable. You'll want to do the milking in front of your flowhood, and milk into sterile jars.

The commercially available venom from Sigma Scientific is freeze dried and shipped frozen.
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8379282 - 05/08/08 08:24 PM

Sorry I`m new.

Is this to imobilize the cell
Or weaken the cell wall to exchange genetic material?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8381135 - 05/09/08 09:30 AM

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
I see no problems other than it's quite unstable. You'll want to do the milking in front of your flowhood, and milk into sterile jars.

The commercially available venom from Sigma Scientific is freeze dried and shipped frozen.
RR




RR, do you still use snake venom to cross strains?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: Neobean]
    #8383120 - 05/09/08 08:25 PM

I'll be working with it again soon, but in attempts to cross species, not strains.
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8383180 - 05/09/08 08:44 PM

Are they actually selling that to just anybody (with an account, of course) that happens to ask for it? Would be nice anyway. Part # for the specific type you use?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: MycoAu]
    #8383198 - 05/09/08 08:52 PM

It's a pretty intensive clearing process before they'll let you order purified venom. You'll have to be 'interviewed' by at least three different people, one of whom I suspected was law enforcement. Think about it. . .it's the perfect murder weapon.
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Re: Selling Venom [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8384706 - 05/10/08 09:20 AM

Quote:

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I'll be working with it again soon, but in attempts to cross species, not strains.
RR




I imagine it might have already been done, but will you try to cross cubes with panaeolus? How long is the crossing process and how do you know if you have succeeded, besides final results of course...?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: Neobean]
    #8385044 - 05/10/08 12:01 PM

Ok, so the venom is probably going to be a long time waiting. There is another thread in which somebody is suggesting the use of Salicylic acid. It's cheap and plentiful without all the hassle of venom. But... does it work? I have no idea, but somebody out there has the impression that it does.

Does anybody know?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: MycoAu]
    #8385171 - 05/10/08 12:47 PM

Salicylic acid.....I think they read about it being used in plant test.


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
    #8387686 - 05/11/08 12:17 AM

This is driving me nuts.

I have heard about this whole snake venom thing, and heard that its complete bullshit...

What does snake venom have anything to do with Mushrooms?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #8388103 - 05/11/08 03:53 AM

Quote:

Cryogenicz said:
This is driving me nuts.

I have heard about this whole snake venom thing, and heard that its complete bullshit...

What does snake venom have anything to do with Mushrooms?


-Graham





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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
    #8391729 - 05/12/08 06:39 AM

Quote:

RogerRabbit said:
I'll be working with it again soon, but in attempts to cross species, not strains.
RR


oh man you have to keep us posted.
or are you just gonna hide everything untill your done? What are you trying pans and cubes ?


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: em_bre_O]
    #8392042 - 05/12/08 09:51 AM

Quote:

em_bre_O said:
Quote:

Cryogenicz said:
This is driving me nuts.

I have heard about this whole snake venom thing, and heard that its complete bullshit...

What does snake venom have anything to do with Mushrooms?


-Graham





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It seems like crap to me, but I haven't done any research on it... so.


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Re: Selling Venom [Re: grod31]
    #8392044 - 05/12/08 09:52 AM

the only way to keep it stable for extended lengths of time is freeze-drying and low temps. i posted this in another venom thread, the active compounds in rattlesnake venom are proteases that chew up proteins, but being proteins themselves they "auto-digest" (think auto-immune diseases) and slowly degrade themselves to zero activity. but , i remember seeing videos on snake venom banks where they pull liquid from fridge-looking things, so who knows. perhaps you could call up one such place and ask about storage. look into buying a lyophilizer (free-dryer), but you need liquid nitrogen to do this.


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