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 Catatonik
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 Getting your pets high
#8364237 - 05/05/08 08:11 AM (5 months, 4 days ago) |
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Getting Your Pets High
By Catatonik and Buds McKinsey
There has been a lot of debate over getting one's pet stoned. Some say it is cruel while others insist that their pets strangely show up during crowded smoke sessions and don't seem to mind having smoke blown in their face. This guide is mostly intended for dogs and cats. Please do not attempt to get your bird high. Smoke is very harmful to birds.
I have learned a few things about getting pets stoned over time and figured this may be useful. My intention is not to force animals to take drugs, but to allow for a gentle and effective way of getting your pet high.
Before you start, you must understand that some pets, no matter what, do not want to get high. Even more important, some pets can't stand smoke. There will be a point where your pet understands the experience of getting high and will advocate for themselves. From what I've witnessed, cats advocate for themselves much better than dogs. I'm not too sure why, but I figure the loyalty of most dogs makes it hard to distinguish their intentions.
Some important things to be aware of: There seems to be no evidence that blowing smoke in a pet's ear will get them high. Yes, I know ear, nose, and mouth all share some connection. But would you want someone blowing smoke in your ear to get high? There are few reports of success and there is a chance that the hot smoke may be harmful. So don't do it.
Marijuana also tends to make animals severely agitated in high doses. Many veterinarian sites report that stoners often come in with an agitated dog that got into their stash while they were away. There seems to be no serious long term harm. But if you've ever had an anxiety attack from smoking too much, you know that it really sucks. Also remember that dogs have a very sensitive sense of smell. Don't leave your stash in an open container in an accessible bathroom cabinet to avoid this. And don't experiment with your pet to see just how high they can get.
Another factor to watch for is the pet's size and metabolism. Keep in mind that many pets do not have the same liver function as a human. Dogs tend to have "weak" livers compared to people, and cats are likely to be even more susceptible than dogs to liver damage. You want to avoid this at all costs. The liver does not heal and may lead to other forms of organ failure, including deadly kidney failure. Be warned that although marijuana is generally not considered hepatoxic, the effects on cats and dogs are not well understood. Don't play around with any other drugs when it comes to your pets. That means no alcohol, no designer drugs, and nothing you have not researched. Don't chance anything you are not sure of. Tylenol for example, can be deadly to both dogs and cats, because of the harmful effects on the liver. Humans on the other hand, tolerate Tylenol to some degree. There are more factors to consider regarding your pet's liver and health:
The liver is highly involved with converting or metabolizing drugs to safer, active, and inactive forms. There seems to be little knowledge on how a cat's liver metabolizes the active ingredients in marijuana. But to be on the safer side, let's look at what happens to an impaired human liver: Drugs may be more potent due to the liver's reduced ability to metabolize a drug. This means some drugs may unexpectedly reach toxic levels. It also means the drug may remain in an active form for a longer period of time. Since I am not too sure of how dog and cat kidneys differ from ours, I figure some drugs may take longer to excrete in a pet. Perhaps someone that better understands these functions can make a prediction based on marijuana's active chemicals. Keep in mind that marijuana is generally regarded as safe. To sum all of this up: A 100 pound cat might require significantly less weed than a 100 pound human. Not only that, but the cat may be high for longer than a human. I don't know if cats get the munchies and reach that weight, but you get the idea, right?
So far, I have found two methods to be quite effective for getting your pet high: cannabis butter and fresh smoke in a closed area such as a cabinet.
If you don't know how to make cannabis butter, please look it up. I suggest using the weed+water+butter boiling method over the simple butter+weed sautée. I also suggest using butter form for a specific reason: It seems to be a great form to dissolve the active ingredients in weed. It also is a safe bet for the following reasons:
Dogs and cats will eat cannabis butter. This is uniquely important for dogs, since they seem to dislike smoke more than cats. Maybe their sensitive sense of smell has something to do with it.
There should not be other harmful chemicals to worry about in cannabis butter.
Do not use a plant that has been doused in some kind of questionable treatment. Do not use a plant that is moldy and don't think you can cook off the harmful effects of the mold. Do not use a plant that has been recently sprayed with an insecticide or a chemical such as pyrethrins. Though pyrethrins have the potential to be safe in many applications, cats in particular are very sensitive to it (remember, different liver). Pyrethrins break down over a short period of time though. Dogs also tend to tolerate them better than cats.
Do not cook food first and then give it to the pet. Pets react in unexpected ways to different human treats. This is especially important if you plan on making brownies or chocolate chip cookies. Remember the liver factor? Dogs and especially cats cannot handle the theobromine present in chocolate. It is toxic to them. If you want to be safe, use a recipe from scratch for something like regular oatmeal cookies. You can nuke the batter afterwards (don't let your pets consume raw eggs) and let them lick the mixing bowl. You can also let them lick the cookie plate clean afterwards. If your dog likes to get high and eat cookies (just like the rest of us), it might come in handy as a treat for good behavior.
Note that absorption or bioavailability is another issue with pets eating weed. I assume they can absorb it, since dogs often OD this way. But from observation, it seems to work better for cats. Also keep in mind the intestinal track on both animals is much shorter and direct (being mostly carnivores) which may affect absorption.
The other method involves using a cabinet, and preferably a dry or water filled bong with a carburetor/hole. This method seems to work better for cats. Before you start, I only suggest doing this to a cat you know very well because it will require a little bit of pushing and discretion. Place your cat in a moderately sized cabinet that it can walk around in. It may be easier if the cabinet is at your face level when standing up. Now pack a good bowl, light, and fill the chamber up with a good amount of smoke. Now stop and hold your breath even though there is smoke in the chamber. Point the top of the bong towards the inside of the cabinet. Place your mouth over the carburetor/hole to make a seal and exhale. Now your second hand smoke will push the chamber smoke into the cabinet towards your cat. Now close the cabinet. Repeat once if you want or let it have some more second hand smoke. Just keep in mind that second hand smoke has less active ingredients but may be nearly as harmful. If this is one of the first times, use your judgment to keep the cat in there until you think its had enough.
After a few times, your pet will understand the effects of marijuana and advocate for themselves. If your cat flails its arms about on the next trip to the cabinet, stop right there. Same goes for a pet that suddenly refuses to eat cannabis butter. Your cat doesn't want to get high. From my observations, a typical cat will want to spend just a few minutes inside before pushing the cabinet door open. Sometimes if the smoke is mild or the cabinet is big, they will hang out inside for a longer period.
I hope this information is useful. Please be careful but if you love your pet and both enjoy getting high in a safe manner, don't be ashamed.
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: Catatonik]
#8364269 - 05/05/08 08:25 AM (5 months, 4 days ago) |
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I guess if the pet really likes it, if its behaviour reflects this without a doubt, it's all good.
I knew a guy that used to trap his kitten and blow smoke in the box. It made me sick to my stomach, and I'd always save the poor kitty, since it would struggle to get out. I know he did it when I wasn't around to save the poor thing though. 
I think it may have affected how the cat turned out. It acted pretty weird most the time. I'm guessing the pot had something to do with it, but who knows.
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: Brugman]
#8364365 - 05/05/08 09:15 AM (5 months, 4 days ago) |
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My cat seems to enjoy it, and he does pop up randomly during a smoke sess. Same with my friends dogs, they get ripped and enjoy it. At least thats how it seems.
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yeah dude. my old dog, would smell out weed in peoples pockets as soon as they walked in the door
AND when we were toking a bowl. he would sit down to whoever had the pipe, then they would blow him a hit. when they passed it, he would walk to the next person and sit ext to them, waiting to get a hit. and so on.
i can only imagine he enjoyed it.
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My roommate had a pet potbelly pig once and the damned thing turned into an alcoholic.
We had the pig and intended to fatten it up for a luau before it reached pet status and we were told to fatten it up to supliment its diet with beer. So thats all we let it drink. The pig was about 2 months old when we got it and after 2 weeks it would be incredibly obnoxious when it was sober.
That aside the damned thing always found my stash and tried to eat it. I once came home to it trying to chew through a brinks lock box that had a few stems in it.
I took this as a sign that the thing wanted to get high and smoked it out. Aside from the booze weed was the only thing to calm it down. But the pig did advocate that it wanted to get high, it always showed up.
Oh well thats my rant on the matter.
I say blow smoke from a distance once or twice and then let it decide for itself
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: perosiste]
#8364516 - 05/05/08 10:25 AM (5 months, 4 days ago) |
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So how did it taste?
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: perosiste]
#8364527 - 05/05/08 10:31 AM (5 months, 4 days ago) |
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Used to live with a guy whose dog would get really cranky when we didn't have weed. You couldn't blow smoke in face though or he would start sneezing. He would always come lay in the room and get high off second hand smoke when we were smoking.
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: Gainer]
#8364550 - 05/05/08 10:39 AM (5 months, 4 days ago) |
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this topic always seems to draw huge debate on these forums. I guess perhaps if it's brought up by an article things shall be different?
I've never had a problem smoking up a pet that clearly enjoyed it.
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: meams]
#8364572 - 05/05/08 10:51 AM (5 months, 4 days ago) |
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my friends dog loves beer. if you spill any one the floor hell run over and lick it all up. they put some in a dish and the dog drank it  why deprive the dog of something it loves?
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: Seuss]
#8364654 - 05/05/08 11:20 AM (5 months, 4 days ago) |
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Quote:
Seuss said:
So how did it taste?
I assume your asking about the pig
Well the conclusion to the story is that my gf at the time kindnapped it and gave it to a high school ffa student. Probabily for best not sure that I could have eaten it. It was only 20 lbs at the end of the year thats what 2 pork chops once you butcher it.
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: PilzeEssen]
#8364705 - 05/05/08 11:33 AM (5 months, 4 days ago) |
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Quote:
PilzeEssen said:
why deprive the dog of something it loves?
Health reasons, I guess.
My friend's dog loves beer too.
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Edited by Brugman (05/05/08 11:33 AM)
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: Brugman]
#8371404 - 05/06/08 11:17 PM (5 months, 2 days ago) |
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It is a relief to not get any more death threats. I tried posting this on myspace and it didn't go so well.
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: Catatonik]
#8371501 - 05/07/08 12:06 AM (5 months, 2 days ago) |
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For some reason my dog loves smoking crack He wont stop bothering you until you let him hit the pipe.
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: danlennon3]
#8400739 - 05/14/08 12:52 PM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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personally, i would never waste good marijuana butter on my pet
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: Felinor]
#8400757 - 05/14/08 12:57 PM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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Our cat likes to get high, but I don't know if it's healthy or not. I'm not a specialist.
My cat would love to eat chocolate all day long too, and that would kill him, so his preference doesn't mean it's good for him.
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Quote:
TheHappieHippies said:
Our cat likes to get high, but I don't know if it's healthy or not. I'm not a specialist.
My cat would love to eat chocolate all day long too, and that would kill him, so his preference doesn't mean it's good for him.
i doubt its harmful. i mean whats it gonna do kill the cats motivation? or his short term memory?
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: doitagain]
#8401107 - 05/14/08 02:15 PM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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when i lived at home one of my dogs liked to blaze, and one didnt.
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: doitagain]
#8401153 - 05/14/08 02:24 PM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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Same with my rats.
The white one doesn't want anything to do with it.
The other one would pressed against the cage when she heard the lighter flick.
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Re: Getting your pets high [Re: slackophage]
#8401281 - 05/14/08 03:01 PM (4 months, 26 days ago) |
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Haha, that rat looks like he's try to grab on and take a puff.
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wow! you are right! I got my parents schnauzers high many times but they were old anyway, I blew smoke in there nose, they sneezed but afterwards they were smiling and wanted to play fetch..they looked So happy. the first times they watched me smoking pot they were confused..like what are you doing? they seen me smoke cigarettes and they didn't like being near those.. but one day i just blew my hit out into their noses and they loved it ever since, but that was many years ago they both died at 10 years old..of old age..back in 1994.
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