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Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics?
    #8342718 - 04/29/08 04:50 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Some of you've probably heard of this story. A South African sprinter is being denied entry into the Olympic games by the IOC because they say that the prosthesis' the runner wears in place of his lower legs will give him an unfair competitive advantage.

Thoughts on this? I think it's pretty crazy that in the last 20 years or so artificial legs have gone from uncomfortable hunks of wood and plastic into spring-type devices that allow a person to run faster than he could normally.

To me, he should be allowed to run. I imagine he doesn't have to train any less hard than any of the able-bodied athletes in the competition. What are they afraid of? I know that nobody wants to be the runner who lost to the man with no legs, but give him a chance to compete.

He would likely be a source of inspiration to handicapped kids throughout the world. If you can be an Olympic gold-medal sprinter with NO LEGS, you can literally do almost anything.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8342725 - 04/29/08 04:53 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8342753 - 04/29/08 05:00 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

I remember arguing this hypothetical situation far before this shit happened. If you get comfortable on your fake legs, I don't see why it isn't an advantage. Less muscles that need air, therefore you should get less winded than the average person (theoretically), plus it's just less muscles to get tired.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: jewunit]
    #8342766 - 04/29/08 05:04 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Wouldn't your normal muscles have to work harder though?

I mean, now your thighs need to move themselves AND those prosthesis.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8342862 - 04/29/08 05:33 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Stick him in the special Olympics where he belongs.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8343612 - 04/29/08 08:44 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

How fucking heavy do you think they are?

I mean I'm not a scientist so I could be completely wrong, it just seems like it would be an advantage IF you are that used to running on them.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Redstorm]
    #8343614 - 04/29/08 08:45 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

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Stick him in the special Olympics where he belongs.




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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8343651 - 04/29/08 08:52 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

I could have sworn that said "Hospital Olympics" when I posted a few minutes ago, but it's been far too long for him to ninja that shit.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: jewunit]
    #8344773 - 04/30/08 01:14 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

We all know the problem lies with future advancements in technology. This kid is legit, and should get his shot. He's not going to qualify and would never win, but 10 or 20 years down the road as things get more advanced, if we set the precedent now that those with artificial devices can compete, it's gonna get ugly.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: OneMoreRobot3021]
    #8344806 - 04/30/08 01:34 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

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Stick him in the special Olympics where he belongs.







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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8344853 - 04/30/08 02:00 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Would open the door for way too much other shit.

What about a 600 pound hockey goalie that takes up the entire net completely, should he be allowed?

What about a hockey player with a stick prosthetic for an arm?


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Jadian]
    #8344861 - 04/30/08 02:08 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

I've thought and talked about the 500 pound goalie for years. It's gotta happen. Gotta.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Jadian]
    #8345080 - 04/30/08 06:10 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

> To me, he should be allowed to run.

It wouldn't be fair to all the other athletes to let him compete. His body mass is lighter, the energy required to run is less, and the spring action of the artificial limbs gives him an advantage as well. There was a lot of research done to quantify exactly how much of an advantage he would have, and it was very significant.

> What about a 600 pound hockey goalie that takes up the entire net completely

The net is a lot larger than you think. A 600 pound goalie is not going to be able to cover the entire net and is not going to be able to move fast enough to be effective, at least in the pros.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Seuss]
    #8345895 - 04/30/08 12:57 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

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> What about a 600 pound hockey goalie that takes up the entire net completely

The net is a lot larger than you think. A 600 pound goalie is not going to be able to cover the entire net and is not going to be able to move fast enough to be effective, at least in the pros.




I played hockey for 10 years, and no it's not. Imagine the pads required to fit a man that big. He could absolutely fill the whole net. I've seen 200 pound goalies that damn near filled the net.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Jadian]
    #8345900 - 04/30/08 12:57 PM (4 months, 5 days ago)

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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8347310 - 04/30/08 08:16 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

If he's allowed everyone's just going to start lopping off their lower legs and we can't have that now can we?


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Le Narrateur]
    #8349097 - 05/01/08 10:53 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

There is actually a very good article about this in ESPN magazine this month. I think things like this need to be decided on a case-by-case basis. Advancements in sports equipment and modern medicine will keep pushing the envelope.

In this case, it seems the sprinters' artificial limbs can return more energy and ar elighter, giving him an unfair advantage. He shouldn't be allowed to compete.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8358320 - 05/03/08 04:38 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

They should start a robobody olympics. The best engineering wins.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: barfightlard]
    #8358390 - 05/03/08 04:56 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

And all performance enhancing substances encouraged.

The regular Olympics would go out of business.


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Re: Should Double Amputee Be Allowed to Compete in Olympics? [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8358546 - 05/03/08 05:48 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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And all performance enhancing substances encouraged.

The regular Olympics would go out of business.




I've said this for YEARS. You cannot stop it, so screw it. Of course you'll have those goody goodies who won't do PED's, so you'd probably have to have two different leagues.

It's weird that we know that a lot of athletes throughout time were on, yet we recognize their accomplishments as legit.

I've done a few well planned cycles of steroids, and sure they help. They help you to eat more and train harder. I don't understand the hatred.

"It's not natural"

Is flying through the air in a 200 ton piece of metal natural?

What about having a doctor cut open your head with a saw and then remove parts of your brain with a high powered laser?

What about typing into a glorified typewriter and pressing a button and within seconds having anybody in the world with access be able to see what I wrote?

All this pretending that we live "naturally" is a joke.

Let em all in I say. The sooner the better.


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