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 The Cypher
 
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 Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: niteowl]
#8315676 - 04/22/08 06:47 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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niteowl said:
Soft drugs being any drug you can't OD on
You can OD on any drug. The question is at what dosage.
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: The Cypher]
#8315921 - 04/22/08 07:35 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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You can't OD on weed, or shrooms. You would die from your stomach rupturing on shrooms. I think the lethal dose is like 20 pounds.
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: niteowl]
#8315950 - 04/22/08 07:43 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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how bout soft drugs = drugs that take determination to OD off of
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: anyone420]
#8315970 - 04/22/08 07:47 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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how bout soft drugs = drugs that take determination to OD off of
QFT.
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: anyone420]
#8315975 - 04/22/08 07:48 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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how bout soft drugs = drugs that take determination to OD off of
which should then be deemed suicide.
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: leftysurprise]
#8315990 - 04/22/08 07:51 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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I think all OD's should be considered suicide.
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: niteowl]
#8315999 - 04/22/08 07:52 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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Death by ingestion of 20 lbs. of shrooms... sounds fun.
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: leftysurprise]
#8316006 - 04/22/08 07:53 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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leftysurprise said:
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anyone420 said:
how bout soft drugs = drugs that take determination to OD off of
which should then be deemed suicide.
what if i accidentally injest 20 pounds of shrooms?
it could happen man
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: The Cypher]
#8316013 - 04/22/08 07:54 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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In chat case, the active chemical did not kill you, your stomach ruptured because you stuffed your face, in an effort to kill your self.
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: anyone420]
#8316015 - 04/22/08 07:55 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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anyone420 said:
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leftysurprise said:
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anyone420 said:
how bout soft drugs = drugs that take determination to OD off of
which should then be deemed suicide.
what if i accidentally injest 20 pounds of shrooms?
it could happen man
totally. i mean i guess you could lose count somewhere around 10lbs...... 
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~Stephen Colbert
“I contend we are both atheists, I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”
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"George Bush says he speaks to god every day, and christians love him for it. If George Bush said he spoke to god through his hair dryer, they would think he was mad. I fail to see how the addition of a hair dryer makes it any more absurd."
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: leftysurprise]
#8316035 - 04/22/08 07:59 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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u could inject a shitload of psilosybin into the bloodstream i guess
probably takes alot if that even works
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: anyone420]
#8316095 - 04/22/08 08:09 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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Still, it would probably take a hell of a lot. I mean, people don't die from thumbprints of LSD.
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: The Cypher]
#8316118 - 04/22/08 08:12 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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What if one were to drink a cup of liquid LSD?
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: niteowl]
#8316124 - 04/22/08 08:13 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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What if one were to drink a cup of liquid LSD?
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: Chemy]
#8316138 - 04/22/08 08:15 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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I seem to recall something or other about Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters offering up gallon punch-bowls spiked with LSD at their parties.
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: The Cypher]
#8316208 - 04/22/08 08:26 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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Having your punch spiked w/LSD is one thing, drinking a cup of liquid LSD is a whole different story.
That is why it would be under the hard drug list.
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#8316411 - 04/22/08 09:01 PM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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what gives you the authority to tell other people what to do?
I believe some things should be restricted to qualified people only. The guiding principle is to reduce harm to humanity, or even the life on earth such as with radioactive compounds. Some things are so dangerous that they require a lot of training and the right attitude.
If you get appendicitis, shall I perform the surgery? I got a knife thats kinda sharp and needle and thread and I know pretty much where the appendix is located. You gotta promise not to sue when I accidentally remove a kidney instead though 
Surgery is for surgeons. Bulk quantities of ultrapotent toxic drugs are for scientists qualified and trained in the field.
Common sense gives anyone the authority to decide that having everything available to everyone is a bad idea.
I'm charmed by the fundamentals of Anarchism but in the end its a pipe dream just like socialism, capitalism and fascism.
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why is your moral code better than everyone else's?
Nice one. My moral code has nothing to do with it. But if you insist.. Next time you're at the cinema, after the movie is over lock the doors, get the audiences attention and speech. Tell them that everything (nukes, poisons, explosives, smallpox samples, drugs) should be made available to everyone. Go in detail, and then let them vote on it. You will find approximately 19 out of 20 people will find this a really bad idea.
I'm voicing "everyone elses" opinion here. Yours is the one that strays from the norm, and violates the common sense of most people.
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what would you do to people that didn't wish to abide by your rules?
Make sure they cannot get the nukes, the smallpox samples and the bulk quantities of ultrapotent toxic drugs.
You are herding me towards looking like a dictator, but your anarchist society will in fact lead to the masses suffering under the tyranny of the malicious people among them. If you like Anarchy, visit the Central African Republic and realize with how little means people already will make other peoples life Hell.
We don't live in Utopia. Anarchy would lead to the worst kind of civil war imaginable, then there would be a counterforce calling for order, and then you have a dictatorship.
You are right. I am a strong believer in fairand limited government. Government should be limited and not what it is today. But without it it could and would be much worse.
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Vote OBAMA for ignorant America.
Nationalized health care? You really want the Gov. to tell you what services and help you can receive concerning health?
What experience does this puppet really have?
What about his extremist friends? Father Flager(sp?), Jeremiah Wright and others.
The US government has already bankrupt social security, messed up medicaid and is drowning in corruption on all levels.
We as a people are taxed more now in reference than our fore fathers when they started the revolution.
Its time we started over....
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: lqdtrance]
#8317390 - 04/23/08 01:49 AM (5 months, 12 days ago) |
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You are right. I am a strong believer in fair and limited government. Government should be limited and not what it is today. But without it it could and would be much worse.
Agreed.
Some (most) chemicals should not be readily available to the general public.
Some drugs should stay in the realm of Dr visits.
Not everyone should be able to get their hands on 100 xanax bars. It should take a Dr's Rx to get them.
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: niteowl]
#8317519 - 04/23/08 02:36 AM (5 months, 11 days ago) |
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OD= an excessive dose, a dose higher than indicated
you can OD on anything
And you can die from marijuana in recreational levels
I don't know that there's any research to suggest the physiological consequences of LSD are worse than marijuana. Discriminating between drugs due to their ability to cause trouble at high doses is plain stupid in my book. lets look at their effects at recreational levels
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Re: what drugs (if any) do you think should actually remain illegal? [Re: johnm214]
#8317532 - 04/23/08 02:41 AM (5 months, 11 days ago) |
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When Im talking about ODing, I'm talking about, all but killing your self with the drug.
Having to take a trip to the hospital, because you OD'd.
That isn't gonna happen on weed....or shrooms, unless the shroomer is inexperienced and freaks out. Even if that happens, the shroomers health is not at risk.
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Being happy doesn't mean everythings perfect.
It means you've decided to see beyond the imperfections
"Fear is the mind killer.
I will face my fear and let it pass thru me"
Paul Atreides: Dune
Edited by niteowl (04/23/08 02:42 AM)
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