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 matits
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 Re: Oyster mushrooms...  [Re: matits]
#8289284 - 04/15/08 09:11 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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K, thanks. I try to fan 2 times a day or more if possible. How should I go about it differently. Air stone in a cup of water?
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: PinheadX]
#8289348 - 04/15/08 09:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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This was my colonized block of coir and coffee grounds that stalled.
There eventually were puffballs all over it and it just shot out two little ones that promptly aborted. This was inside my martha.
Bad blurry pic, but you can see the puffball starting on the side of the block, and the two aborts.
I thought I took pics of my blue oysters fruiting, but I don't see 'em anywhere, so here are my pics of the block fruiting after I broke it up, rehydrated it and put it into a ziplock. The long white strip in the middle is a tyvek strip for gas exchange. I cut lots of x's in the bag for the mushrooms to fruit out of, but there was enough space in the bag that I have some growing inside the bag, unfortunately. Looks like I'll probably only
get one fruiting inside the bag, before I have to remove it to get the mushrooms that didn't make it to the outside. I'm not sure exactly what I'm doing, but it's a cool experiment.
First harvest...
Coffee and coir on the butt...
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Edited by PinheadX (04/15/08 10:15 PM)
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: PinheadX]
#8289392 - 04/15/08 09:35 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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As far as FAE goes, what I did was hooked up a cool mist impeller type humidifier with a length of vinyl hose going from the output of the humidifier into my enclosure, then I have a fan sucking out the air from the bottom of the enclosure.
In your situation, I would run a cool mist into the tub. That should push enough FAE and humiditiy in, and if you have holes in the bottom of the tub, it should exhaust the CO2 and have enough positive pressure to keep out contams.
If that doesn't look like a good solution for you, then I don't really have an answer.
I'll take pics of my setup to show how easy and ghetto I have my setup and how well it works.
I go through about a gallon of water every 24 hours. The fan pulls alot of the moisture up into the enlosure from the cool mist and back out the bottom along with the CO2.
no contams yet either, and I'm pretty lax in my sterility outside of my initial inoculation and colonization procedures.
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If you want to find psilocybin in species that are not yet known to be psychoactive, you should do chemical tests. That way you won't get sick and die all the time.
- Alan Rockefeller
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
- Philip K. Dick
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matits
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: PinheadX]
#8289668 - 04/15/08 10:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well good and bad news.
I will start with the good. I pulled the one fruit and it was nice. Almost picture perfect (to me anyways).
...and this picture is AWESOME by the way..
<img src="http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s32/PinheadXpics/Oysters/IMG_0453.jpg">
Now for the bad. I opened up my aquarium and noticed that the one basket I put in it, a little yellow food service basket, like you would get at a 50s style burger joint or something, had some of the myc fluff balls hovering over the water. I thought shit, I better get it up out of the water.
So I picked it up and the bottom was black with mold. I took it in the other room (my bathroom) and sprayed it with 70% alcohol. I wanted to light it on fire but decided the curtains would go up in flames. Right now I wouldn't care. Just kidding, we had a house fire, it really isn't cool.
So I poured alcohol in the water of the tank. I noticed that the cakes in the basket started exploding with fruits and then I saw a trail of grey and blackish whispy stuff. I thought instantly, COBWEB. So I wrapped it up in a black trashbag and sealed the top shut and rushed it outside. I have a bathtub full of bleach water and I am cleaning EVERYTHING out and trying to salvage what is left that isn't contaminated. The stuff that wasn't in the water might be fine. But I don't know if any mold spores jumped?
Any idea? What should I do?
I am freaking out right now. Pissed at myself.
I think I am starting over.
From now on I do ONLY as what I see RogerRabbit do on the videos.
Let that be a lesson to you. Don't improvise before you grasp EVERYTHING. You never know too much and contams will screw you in the end if you are not careful.
Oh well. At least I found some yellow morels yesterday while hunting. Maybe tomorrow I will go hunting again and find something.
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matits
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: matits]
#8289693 - 04/15/08 11:00 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I suck at life. Balls. I fucked up oysters.
Maybe I will make a martha. Or look into getting an automated fruiting chamber.
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: PinheadX]
#8290646 - 04/16/08 06:59 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I recommend the martha setup. The only thing I really do to mine is add water. If you want help, I'll point you in a couple of directions that I learned along the way.
I need to do a pictoral of my setup and show others how simply you can do a martha.
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If you want to find psilocybin in species that are not yet known to be psychoactive, you should do chemical tests. That way you won't get sick and die all the time.
- Alan Rockefeller
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
- Philip K. Dick
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matits
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: PinheadX]
#8294523 - 04/16/08 11:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah that would be cool. Just got the ol' income tax money. So maybe I will look into it. Would it be hard to make multiple marthas and run them off of of one coolmist? Or should you have a 1 to 1 ratio. I am thinking about taking my projects into my basement. It is a fairly new basment with pug ins everywhere and I can frame out the walls and make it into rooms. It is a full basement. I was wanting to build a clean room/grow room. Would be awesome. Then if we have a tornado, my babies will be ok and no worries. 
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: matits]
#8302736 - 04/18/08 09:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've heard people can run 4 hoses off one coolmist, but with the amount of FAE required for oysters and other gourmet edibles, I find one coolmist per martha is all my setup would handle. YMMV.
I think my FAE is a bit overkill right now, so it may be that I could run two off my coolmist with a lower CFM fan setup. But I like my setup, and I'm not at all worried about the CO2 levels in my FC.
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If you want to find psilocybin in species that are not yet known to be psychoactive, you should do chemical tests. That way you won't get sick and die all the time.
- Alan Rockefeller
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
- Philip K. Dick
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matits
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: PinheadX]
#8302849 - 04/18/08 10:19 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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So with my current setup. The aquarium. I have a piece of lexan over it and I Have two holes in the top. I don't have a hack saw or a dremel, so I can't make the wholes pretty. 
I was thinking about putting a computer fan that would suck out air, and have polyfil so that the "cleaner" air gets filtered in. Maybe I could get some furnace filters that are for alergies. That way I can cut them down and they will filter a good portion of the air. not at all like a hepa.
Actually, I ordered another fan, I am making a flow hood. In the process of it really. I have 2 other fans that are too small to make it but bigger than I prolly need for aquarium setups. Maybe I can make a PVC venting system and Have filters and the like going from one tub to another. I am wanting to take my operation downstairs in the basement. Then I could get several tubs in a row and I might be able to do faes that way.
Maybe I should get the bible out again re-read it.
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: matits]
#8302956 - 04/18/08 10:52 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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just remember that CO2 is heavier than air, so you need to vent from the bottom of the enclosure. This could be with a fan hooked to a hose somehow, or with an air pump or something similar. Or fans in the bottom part of the FC.
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If you want to find psilocybin in species that are not yet known to be psychoactive, you should do chemical tests. That way you won't get sick and die all the time.
- Alan Rockefeller
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
- Philip K. Dick
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matits
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: PinheadX]
#8305958 - 04/19/08 07:43 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hey how much did you spend getting your martha all setup. I am waiting for my paycheck and the income tax to come back. Then I want to build it up. I am in the process of getting a laminar flow hood going. I ordered a 1200+cfm fan from ebay.
I am totally interested in the Martha. I have seen a couple on here and read through a bunch, but they aren't real cut and dry. They are using PVC piping and all kinds of stuff. I don't understand the purpose of all of it.
I am they type of person that when I see something I want to know how and why it works. I don't like hidden things. I want to see it work and know why you do things the way you do. If that makes sense.
A laminar flow hood has a "plenum", which as I gather, it has a box behind the filter that builds pressure, the pressure builds and pushes out the filter at an even area of flow. I understand that. I don't understand why you have a bag on the end of a PVC pip to catch water. Like the one I saw on here.
Make a tech....I will use it. Ha haha....
Thanks for all your help man...
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: matits]
#8309001 - 04/20/08 08:44 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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ok.. here's what I have.
cool mist impeller type humidifier. The reason you want an impeller-type and not an evaporative cool mist is the evaporative type is more prone to contaminations. The wick that sucks up the water in an evap. is a huge contamination vector, and will contam your entire setup. Coolmist was $20
I use a 1" diameter flexible vinyl or PVC (not sure, but it's clear, so I'm thinking vinyl...) hose. This fits inside the output hole from the coolmist pretty well. I used a 1" diameter hose simply because I felt if it were close to the size of the output hole of the coolmist, the motor in the coolmist would not be working any harder than normal to force air/humidity through the hose.
There also is a 90 degree fitting on the end of my hose that you push into the hose.... I forget the name of the type of fitting. This is to aim the output of the coolmist once it's inside the enclosure. Also, it holds the hose in place. I zip the hose up at the end of the zipper to hold it there, since I was experimenting with the humidification and didn't want to cut holes and tape up the coolmist to get the hose into it.. Hose is $3 a foot or so at home depot. Fitting is a buck or two... don't remember. I used about 3 feet, but you might want about six feet so that you can put the humidifier further from the enclosure. You don't want to put it on the ground, as it will suck contams in from near the floor.
To attach the hose to the coolmist, I used clear packing tape. I shoved the hose into the output hole and taped the hose in place. Very ghetto. $2 a roll or something...
I got clear plastic sheeting from the painting section of Home Depot and cut a length of it to fit in the bottom of the enclosure. I left about a quarter of the bottom uncovered to vent CO2. $5 or so
I use a 8" fan under the enclosure to suck air out of the bottom. I don't remember how much this cost. I'd say about $10.
The enclosure was $30 at Bed Bath and Beyond.
The shelves were the most expensive part, I got them for $35 at wal mart as part of a metal shelf system thingy. They sell them at Bed Bath and Beyond for $40.
Hanging the shelves, I used coaxial cable. You might want to use chain and s-hooks. I cut four pieces of coax, two at about 4 feet and two at about 8 feet, put fittings on the ends and used barrel connectors to make 4 large loops of coax cable to thread through the frame of the portable closet and hang the shelves in. I have two shelves in my enclosure. I could probably hang three easily and maybe 4 if I wanted one on the very bottom, but I needed a large height to put my oyster bags on the top, so I have two shelves at about 3 feet and four feet from the top of the enclosure. the second shelf pretty much only holds trays of perlite and the bottom has perlite trays sitting on it.
Perlite trays - this is the way I keep the humidity high using only one coolmist. I may not need it but I'm sure it doesn't hurt. Cheap. About 3 bucks a bag, I used three bags. Aluminum foil trays are dirt cheap.
Hygrometer. Get a good one. $20 or so
all in all, I guess I have about $120 or so into the martha, since the shelf system is also used outside the martha with the two remaining shelves.
You could probably use things you already have or can find cheaper and get it set up for under $100. If it were winter, I could get humidifiers at the thrift stores for a few bucks, but they aren't on the shelves right now. I already had the fan, the cable was free, the tape was already purchased for moving a year ago.
Any questions, just ask. The martha setup is really a simple idea.
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If you want to find psilocybin in species that are not yet known to be psychoactive, you should do chemical tests. That way you won't get sick and die all the time.
- Alan Rockefeller
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
- Philip K. Dick
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matits
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: PinheadX]
#8309578 - 04/21/08 01:05 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks man. That really paints the picture for me. I think I have a bunch of the stuff you are describing already. I have a holmes humidifier I got off a deal a day site.... But I think it isn't the impeller. So I will have to invest in that. I need to buy some shelving and the like. But other than that I think I get it.
Do you recommend say a bag of synth pillow stuffing or a furnace filter for your bottom hole for the CO2? Would that be advisable to keep any stirred up contams semi blocked out?
Thanks again. Time for sleep. Have to work the late shift tomorrow.
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Re: Oyster mushrooms... [Re: matits]
#8309912 - 04/21/08 07:54 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not absolutely sure, but with the airflow setup I describe, any contams will likely be sucked out of the bottom along with the CO2, and I would imagine anything to catch them and humidity would be a contamination vector...
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If you want to find psilocybin in species that are not yet known to be psychoactive, you should do chemical tests. That way you won't get sick and die all the time.
- Alan Rockefeller
Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
- Philip K. Dick
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