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 Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Techno_Raver]
#8319760 - 04/23/08 05:12 PM |
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They should decriminalize everything, too.
fixed that for ya
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: perosiste]
#8322522 - 04/24/08 09:49 AM |
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Even though Ron Paul is my rep I still called
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: bigcraig77]
#8323662 - 04/24/08 04:06 PM |
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Here's my reply, no surprise here living in Idaho.
One problem contributing to our nation's illicit drug problem is the belief by some that we could benefit by the legalization of drugs. Now is the time to redouble our efforts to win the drug war - not to surrender. I believe that the legalization of marijuana would be a moral compromise that would undercut our nation's fight against substance abuse.
I am concerned about the legalization of marijuana for several reasons. For one, legalization would likely result in increased abuse of all drugs, including alcohol. This perspective is animated by my belief that marijuana is often a gateway drug to more addictive, destructive and sometimes lethal drugs. As noted by the American Council for Drug Education, "The Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University found adolescents who smoke pot 85 times more likely to use cocaine than their non-pot smoking peers. And 60 percent of youngsters who use marijuana before they turn 15 later go on to use cocaine."
Furthermore, the bulk of our law enforcement community insists that legalization will increase crime and hamper their efforts to prevent the spread of all types of illicit drugs into our communities.
The damaging effects directly related to the use of marijuana are very real and include frequent respiratory infections, impaired memory and learning, increased heart rate, anxiety and panic attacks. The sheer use of this drug is alarming and only reiterates the need for media campaigns that accurately present the hard truths about the physical, mental, and legal implications of marijuana use. A responsible governments not only prohibits the use of drugs known to have high potential for abuse, but educates its citizens about such substances. Such advertisements and strict policies effectively portray the severity of the drug crisis that exists today.
Additionally, parental and family efforts in discouraging the use of marijuana are essential. Moms and dads, siblings, trusted friends and religious leaders should come alongside at-risk youth and explain to them that marijuana is neither benign nor a productive means of addressing whatever issues troubling young people.
I appreciate hearing from you regarding this topic. For more information and updates on my work in Congress, please visit my website, www.sali.house.gov. It is an honor to serve as your member of Congress. Thank you again for contacting me; I hope you will continue to share your views on the important issues facing our country.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Deity208]
#8323895 - 04/24/08 05:10 PM |
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: x2and2makes5]
#8324307 - 04/24/08 07:17 PM |
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: johnm214]
#8324509 - 04/24/08 08:11 PM |
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Alright, I emailed in support of this as well, and my congressman sent me a reply. While it is not full support of the law, he does want it to be the states choice and believes there is some merit for it in the medical community. I replied with a few arguments, being respectable the entire time, hopefully he will reply again, he seems like a really nice guy.
here is the email
"At least since President Nixon first declared the War on Drugs in 1971, there has been a debate in this country about whether the smoking of marijuana should be illegal. Nixon's own Shafer Commission suggested in 1973 that it simple possession should be legal, a position President Nixon rejected. Rep. Frank has raised the question again with the introduction of HR‑5842 and HR 5843, and I am pleased to make my position on the issue clear.
I have never stood in the way of proposals in individual states to create exemptions from the Controlled Substances Act to allow for marijuana to be used for medical reasons. There is sufficient interest in the medical community in the potential of medical marijuana to make a federal ban inappropriate, and many states have passed laws allowing its use. I have consistently supported each state's right to do this and opposed efforts by the Department of Justice to interfere with that right, and I might support HR‑5842's codification of the right of states to create medical marijuana laws. Creating a federal exemption for recreational marijuana use is another matter, however.
Our drug laws must be sensible and realistic. Too many proponents of stiff penalties base their arguments on the idea that marijuana use leads to other crimes; Americans do not punish people for what they might do, but for what they actually do. At the same time, a federal decriminalization implies that our society condones the use of marijuana, and I do not believe that to be the case. A proper balance must be struck, where the penalties are not too harsh and the focus remains on preventing the abuse of illegal drugs.
I am pleased to have had this chance to discuss with you the role of the federal government in regulating the use of marijuana, and I look forward to hearing from you again.
Sincerely"
names and indication of my area have been taken out, anyways, thought maybe you all would be interested
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: supra]
#8324570 - 04/24/08 08:26 PM |
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When was the vote supposed to take place?
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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: geokills]
#8324734 - 04/24/08 09:04 PM |
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April 24, 2008
Here is some more bullshit they feed us!
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Dear Mr. Rickster,
Thank you for taking the time to contact me about marijuana. I value your views, and your input helps me to better represent the people of Indiana 's Second District in Congress.
As you may already know, marijuana is categorized as a Schedule I controlled substance under the Controlled Substances Act (P.L. 91-513). Schedule I drugs are illegal to use or possess under any circumstances. Twelve states have legalized the use of marijuana with a valid prescription. However, in 2005 the Supreme Court, in Gonzales v. Raich upheld the federal government's power to prosecute any individual found in possession of the drug, despite state laws that legalize the use of marijuana for medicinal purposes.
To date, research has provided inconclusive evidence as to whether marijuana can provide any medical benefit over traditional therapies. Although some groups advocate that marijuana poses no risk to society and should be entirely legal, no U.S. jurisdiction has attempted to decriminalize marijuana for recreational use. I am not convinced that existing research has proven it necessary or prudent to decriminalize marijuana.
To date, no legislation has been introduced in the 110th Congress addressing the issue of marijuana decriminalization. Rest assured, if this issue comes to the floor of the full House of Representatives for a vote, I will be sure to keep your thoughts in mind.
Thank you again for contacting me about this important issue. Please do not hesitate to write, call or email me again if I can ever be of assistance. Also, if you would like to receive regular updates on my actions on your behalf in Congress, sign up for my e-newsletter, The Donnelly Dispatch, at http://donnelly.house.gov.
Sincerely,
Joe Donnelly
Member of Congress
I want to hypothetically slap him in his face, I need advice on how to do so. I need a good link to good info, I know what I want to say just have nothing to back it up! I want to comment on this statement in-particular: "I am not convinced that existing research has proven it necessary or prudent to decriminalize marijuana." What about all of the innocent people in jail or prison for minor possession offenses? Statistics or something.
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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Rickster]
#8325017 - 04/24/08 09:55 PM |
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Friend you are wasting your precious breath. Politics is for maintaining the status quo.
Edited by Icelander (04/24/08 09:55 PM)
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Rickster
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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Icelander]
#8325618 - 04/25/08 12:57 AM |
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Ya, I'm sure I am.
I'm sure there are worse issues this government needs to focus on. I am also sure neither are going to change. I would prefer to prove him wrong, rather than be the little incompetent pothed he may think I am. I believe it's b.s. when there are other recreational activities legal and more dangerous. I don't care if it's legalized for recreational use, but I do care that there are people with numerous dui's, still driving and making deluted decisions endangering folks. Compared to good people down on their luck with a little smoke, serving more time than they deserve, while those pigs get richer bending constitutional rights for their benefit. Sorry for the rant. Just had a pissy day.
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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Rickster]
#8325911 - 04/25/08 02:45 AM |
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BTW, e-mailed requests are not counted. Too great a chance that a person has 2-3 e-mail addys.
A written letter is the only way to get your voice heard.
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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: niteowl]
#8326719 - 04/25/08 11:40 AM |
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This is the COMPLETE reply I got from my congressman, no mention of the issue:
Thank you for contacting me. As of April 30, 2008, this mailbox will no longer be attended.
If you are a constituent of the 7th Congressional District, please contact me using my online form at http://crowley.house.gov.
If you need further assistance, please call my office at 202-225-3965.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Joseph Crowley
Member of Congress
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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: niteowl]
#8326881 - 04/25/08 12:28 PM |
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niteowl said:
BTW, e-mailed requests are not counted. Too great a chance that a person has 2-3 e-mail addys.
A written letter is the only way to get your voice heard.
Ahh..Will do! Thanks!
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 Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: ToiletDuk]
#8326943 - 04/25/08 12:49 PM |
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ToiletDuk said:
Also, as an aside, although related, get registered to vote, people. There's a lot at stake here.
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Ylluks said:
Too bad I'm ineligible to vote due to a felony marijuana charge!
God bless America. 
Oh well, I'll try to help spread the word.
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mr.bixby said:
If you had a drug felony expunged/sealed after ten years can you vote then? Anyone try to vote after this?
... My multiple felony convictions haven't stopped me from voting these past 25 years (once I finished my sentence  and parole) ... the following from Wikipedia
Today, only three states continue to impose a life-long denial of the right to vote to all citizens with a felony record, absent some extraordinary intervention by the Governor or state legislature. These are Iowa, Kentucky, and Virginia. In July, 2005, Iowa Governor Vilsack issued an executive order restoring the right to vote for all persons who have completed supervision. However, the lifetime prohibition on voting remains Iowa law. Nine other states disenfranchise ex-felons for various lengths of time following the completion of their probation or parole. Almost every state prohibits felons from voting while incarcerated, on probation, or on parole.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Brainiac]
#8327746 - 04/25/08 05:12 PM |
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Who cares if the gov't taxes the hell out of it. It would still probably be cheaper than street prices. If that's not the case, then we can grow it illegally just as we've been doing this whole time, for cheaper.
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They are going to tax the hell out of it....It doesnt say how you can get it. ie growing it or buying it..
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: sploogepanz55]
#8327780 - 04/25/08 05:21 PM |
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sploogepanz55 said:
Who cares if the gov't taxes the hell out of it. It would still probably be cheaper than street prices. If that's not the case, then we can grow it illegally just as we've been doing this whole time, for cheaper.
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Brainiac said:
They are going to tax the hell out of it....It doesnt say how you can get it. ie growing it or buying it..
tax is another issue, but at least a taxed item would presumably be more affordable than illegal items. And it opens the door.
Even if the tax is oppressive, if it is state instituted it would provide competition between the states such that lowered taxes could be achieved democratically and through competition w/ illegal sources. This would drive down tax.
But this is a side issue. States can allready tax marijuana. The feds can too. THis doesn't impliate that, it implicates the legality of possesion.
As to how you can get it, again, who cares? I agree this should be addressed, but I don't think it bears on the merits of this bill, with no competing bills. Why is this issue relevant?
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: vinsue]
#8328381 - 04/25/08 08:17 PM |
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Wow, thanks for the extremely informative link!
I need to look into this. I believe my P.O. told me I'd be able to vote seven years after my probation was over.
Yeah I should have said conviction, not charge.
About four years ago, I was going through an intersection and got broadsided by a campus police cruiser. He was in the wrong town while on duty, speeding (45 M.P.H. in a 30 M.P.H. zone) with no lights or siren on.
I was convicted of possession of a class D substance, (Marijuana, "two doses" one bowl plus the resin in the pipe) and a felony charge of assault with a deadly weapon on an officer of the law (my car, that he slammed into) I also got convicted of felony property damage.(The rock wall my car smashed into after the cop hit me) Having that packed bowl in my car automatically made me over 50% at fault. It was complete bullshit.
Sorry for going waaay off topic...
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Ylluks]
#8329003 - 04/25/08 11:16 PM |
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Sucks, but this'll never pan out
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Boom]
#8329708 - 04/26/08 07:24 AM |
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ya, ive been trying to get my friends to eml their congressmen. but let me tell you, to get a stoner to remember to do that is harder than getting G dub out of office.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: weretheshit]
#8331717 - 04/26/08 06:57 PM |
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Either way, the world will keep smoking pot. But it sure would be nice for the government to recognize the fact that they were wrong.. but I don't see them admitting that.
My fingers are crossed.
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