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 Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: AnarchoTrip]
#8299693 - 04/18/08 03:17 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: FooMan]
#8299754 - 04/18/08 04:15 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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why is it that the link on wikipedia goes to a legit site, but then when I try to search for the exact thing on the U.S. House of Reps homepage, nothing shows up?
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: FooMan]
#8299803 - 04/18/08 05:05 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Congress has several times voted on bills to completely legalize marijuana, each time the vote has stronger support - the last time it failed with over 40% of the vote.
Consider:
1. this bill isnt complete legalization
2. increase in support each try.
... I think it has a fair chance at making it. Quit being pessimistic and too scared to write your reps. Recent history has shown that pushing congress with emails, calls, and faxes DOES sway these bills dramatically - SO DO IT!
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: MOTH]
#8299826 - 04/18/08 05:27 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Could this be the first step to responsible and reasonable drug legislation?
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: geokills]
#8299828 - 04/18/08 05:28 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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I did my part. I sent a letter, made a phone call.. and forwarded this to everyone I know. I can only hope everyone else does the same. Those who are saying nothing will change are the exact problem why our voice is not being heard. That apathetic "this will go nowhere" attitude is the only thing that goes nowhere. The more people that speak up the more they will begin to listen and wake up. We should demand our rights.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: geokills]
#8299844 - 04/18/08 05:50 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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I signed, but my local rep. probably won't go for it.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: KillerPicklez]
#8299887 - 04/18/08 06:43 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Ah, I can't seem to find the article I had read but they stated it would go up for vote during the next session of congress.
I also get this email:
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Dear Fellow NORML Supporters:
On 4/20, we're trying to supply NORML National with a "Money Bomb" in an attempt to raise millions of dollars to further the goal of decriminalization/legalization. They're going to need the money if they're ever going to get ads on TV and radio, which in my opinion are necessary to winning the upcoming federal legislation that Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) is going to introduce into the US House of Representatives in a week or two.
Ron Paul used this method to raise a lot of money in very short order. I know we can do the same thing. So check out 420moneybomb.com and donate $10, $25, or $50 on 4/20. Thanks!
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: poke smot!]
#8299896 - 04/18/08 06:48 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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I did my part, and here is to hoping that one day this nightmare will be over.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Prof. Angstrom]
#8299947 - 04/18/08 07:30 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Man up, fools. Shit doesn't change unless your voice is heard.
I signed.
I will call tonight, and I will send an email to everyone I know who would be down. (When I get home.)
Shroomery, this community has GROWN GROWN GROWN over the years. There are a LOT OF PEOPLE here, and please don't underestimate our potential staying power as a collective.
We have numbers, and that is where our power is. While we may not seem like a lot of people to some, keep in mind the cascade effect. Each person on this website is connected to a network of like-minded individuals either through bloodline or a network of friends.
We just need to start a ball rolling with genuine intent. Write up an email in your normal casual tongue (ups the likeliood of them understanding that this is your personal opinion and not just something you're passing along) that explains the situation, and send it to people who would listen to you.
Decriminalization is perfect, in my opinion. I don't want to sell nor do I want to buy commercial crops from R.J. Reynolds. The fact that every stoner would have the right to personal grows would seriously diminish the support for obscure suppliers (ex. "terrorists") reaping bucks for evil purposes.
MAN UP, PEOPLE. If you want this, don't be afraid. There is nothing to fear from signing your name in support of a cause. Don't let the harsh mentality of our government towards drug use sway your perception of WHAT is legal and what is not.
You have every right to make your voice heard.
That's it. I'm done. Ball's in your court. </megaphone>
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: JacquesCousteau]
#8300144 - 04/18/08 09:18 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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I only read a few of the posts on this thread and it made me sick.
I will be willing to bet that most of the people who said "its too much to read" or "I dont have time for this" or whatever your pathetic excuses are, will be the first to bitch and moan when they or someone the know gets busted and creates a whirlwind of havoc for themselves and their families.
C'mon now people, it only takes a few minutes to fill out the form and it automatically gets sent to the people who need to see that we want change.
EDIT: And for those who did take the time to read and fill out the forms, Thank you and please spread the word.
I posted bullitens on both of my myspace pages and emailed everyone in my address book a copy and hopefully they too will take the time to do what is right.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: creekfreek]
#8300161 - 04/18/08 09:23 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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I only read a few of the posts on this thread and it made me sick.
I will be willing to bet that most of the people who said "its too much to read" or "I dont have time for this" or whatever your pathetic excuses are, will be the first to bitch and moan when they or someone the know gets busted and creates a whirlwind of havoc for themselves and their families.
Not wanting to get raided is pathetic?
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: creekfreek]
#8300168 - 04/18/08 09:25 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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And another thing:
We have all heard the phrase, "United we stand, Divided we fall"
Well that aint no bullshit.
If we show that the vast majority of this country wants decriminalzation/legalization, we have a chance to be able to use this plant freely and not worry about the law coming down on us and busting in our doors or pulling us over and taking us to jail.
I for one have been arrested for pot once and its not fun.
I dont know about the rest of you but being arrested isnt on my to do list.
WAKE UP AMERICA. TIME TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT!!!!!!!!
It is not the time to be lazy about these issues.
And pleasse dont have the attitude that someone else will do it for me cuz aint nobody gonna do it for you but you.
OK I am done bitchin for now.
Peace.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: layzdapipe]
#8300178 - 04/18/08 09:27 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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layzdapipe said:
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creekfreek said:
I only read a few of the posts on this thread and it made me sick.
I will be willing to bet that most of the people who said "its too much to read" or "I dont have time for this" or whatever your pathetic excuses are, will be the first to bitch and moan when they or someone the know gets busted and creates a whirlwind of havoc for themselves and their families.
Not wanting to get raided is pathetic?
No, the people who dont want to get raided and are too lazy to read this or fill out the form is pathetic.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#8300203 - 04/18/08 09:35 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT said:
I signed, but my local rep. probably won't go for it.
Thats a major problem also ..they have no say or opinion at all,they are suppose to administer the opinions of the people ,not thier personal feelings.
They are there to simply fufill the wishes of the people.Thats suppose to be how it was designed to work anyway.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Annapurna1]
#8300219 - 04/18/08 09:40 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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Annapurna1 said:
imagine a stainless steel sphere the size of the earth..and a mosquito landing on it once every million years...after the sphere has been completely eroded away by friction..we will not be one microsecond closer to the day when the penalty for MJ possession is even reduced.. let alone decriminalized...so dont hold your breath waiting to inhale...
Its people like you who hinder the progress of such things happening.
WAKE UP
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: creekfreek]
#8300232 - 04/18/08 09:43 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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creekfreek said:
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layzdapipe said:
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creekfreek said:
I only read a few of the posts on this thread and it made me sick.
I will be willing to bet that most of the people who said "its too much to read" or "I dont have time for this" or whatever your pathetic excuses are, will be the first to bitch and moan when they or someone the know gets busted and creates a whirlwind of havoc for themselves and their families.
Not wanting to get raided is pathetic?
No, the people who dont want to get raided and are too lazy to read this or fill out the form is pathetic.
Just think of what made the people attracted to this website when they first came here. And manufacturing is what 8-12 years? Im sure it sparks a little paranoia to some people.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: geokills]
#8300314 - 04/18/08 10:05 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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I hit them up!
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: layzdapipe]
#8300331 - 04/18/08 10:09 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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layzdapipe said:
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creekfreek said:
I only read a few of the posts on this thread and it made me sick.
I will be willing to bet that most of the people who said "its too much to read" or "I dont have time for this" or whatever your pathetic excuses are, will be the first to bitch and moan when they or someone the know gets busted and creates a whirlwind of havoc for themselves and their families.
Not wanting to get raided is pathetic?
Wow that is some depressing paranoia right there.
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 Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: KillerPicklez]
#8300351 - 04/18/08 10:12 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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KillerPicklez said:
When is this going to be up for vote? I didnt see that mentioned anywhere.
AnarchoTrip said:
why is it that the link on wikipedia goes to a legit site, but then when I try to search for the exact thing on the U.S. House of Reps homepage, nothing shows up?
When have you known government to move at lightning speed? This legislation was just drafted and introduced within the last 24 hours. Some matters can be discussed in congress for months, even years before being put up for vote. Then again, some matters can be put up for vote much sooner. That is why it is important to show strong support from the beginning. Let our representatives know that their constituents are actively engaged in politics and which politics we are supporting.
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On 4/20, we're trying to supply NORML National with a "Money Bomb" in an attempt to raise millions of dollars to further the goal of decriminalization/legalization.
I stand by NORML's mission, however to be frank, I don't believe they hold the same quantity or quality of political muscle as the Marijuana Policy Project. MPP.org is constantly lobbying for marijuana support at the community, state, and federal levels. I get regular alerts from them and I truly believe they have the most intelligent and most proactive team of peoples fighting for this cause. They also have a philanthropist on board who is matching the first $3,000,000 of annual contributions (meaning any amount you contribute today, will effectively be doubled!). Therefore, I would suggest that you "money bomb" MPP before you money bomb NORML. Indeed, both organizations stand for similar cause, but I believe MPP is more effective at encouraging and creating the necessary change at the political level.
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I signed, but my local rep. probably won't go for it.
Thats a major problem also ..they have no say or opinion at all,they are suppose to administer the opinions of the people ,not thier personal feelings.
They are there to simply fufill the wishes of the people.Thats suppose to be how it was designed to work anyway.
I live in a fairly conservative district and every time I write or call my rep about marijuana related issues, I receive a form letter about how he doesn't agree with me, that marijuana is dangerous, etc. But when it comes right down to it, it is these conservative districts that need to hear from us the most! The ones who already believe what we believe are locked in for the cause, the conservative rep's on the other hand, need to see support from their constituents - for while they may be branded as generally conservative - politicians are known for being fickle and bending to the whims of their constituents... afterall, they will have to be voted back into office eventually (if they want to continue in their position), and therefore they will ultimately pander to their voter's demands to some extent.
So create some change and take two minutes to call your representative and ask him or her to support Barney Frank's Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act (HR 5843). Dial up (202) 225-3121, give the operator your zip code and ask to be connected to your representative's office. It's that easy, and if you don't want to give your address you don't have to - but at least give them your city and state.
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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: layzdapipe]
#8300403 - 04/18/08 10:23 AM (4 months, 18 days ago) |
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"We'll never be successful"
Ok, it's a totally different situation here...I'm not trying to compare MJ decrim with ANYTHING ELSE, just crafting a metaphor.
What if the civil rights crusaders of the 50's/60's said "Man, they'll never give in, screw it, let's go watch a football game."
Our political process leaves a lot to be desired. Thinking that representatives are actually going to follow whatever their constituents tell them is naive. They'll tow the party line, and cater to their larger, more powerful constituents. But the plebeians do have a tiny bit of pull, if only in the 'statistical' sense.
However, they are our closest link to the legislative process, and in some cases, the peoples' voice is heard through this sort of action.
It kind of makes me wonder- how much pull would the public have with representatives if more than like 15% of eligible voters hit the polls? How much sway would the public have if "most people" wrote/talked to their representative each year?
As far as being targeted by "the powers that be" for voicing your opinions, well, as far as I'm concerned, that's a risk Americans have to take. THIS particular situation is a bit different though, I admit...
But, there's basically no chance in hell that anything's going to happen to anyone because they write/email a rep on this issue, unless your rep is a real true blue nazi who is going to forward all the names and addresses to the gestapo.
But we don't have a gestapo, for starters...lots of nasty 3 letter agencies, sure, but c'mon. "Users" aren't targeted in that manner.
Say, for example, that you're a cash cropper with 5 houses running in some city.
You write a letter to your rep. He is enraged and contacts the DEA, FBI, ATF, etc.
They say "who the hell's this guy at 123 1st Street?"
And it's done with.
OR
They say "who the hell's this guy at 123 1st Street?"
And they say "ahh, the dude we've been investigating for a year and a half. There's a surveillance unit right outside house #4 right now...why the hell did this representative send us this guy's name anyway?"
OR
They say "who the hell's this guy at 123 1st Street?"
And they roll down to your place and bust you in your living room having a smoke.
At least then, there's something in the criminal law system called "discovery." I have a feeling the judge assigned to the case, unless you're in good-ol-boys land, is going to take a dim view of this sort of informing on people, and your attorney could make a great argument based on lack of probable cause, or some intricate legal thing that I'm not up on.
So unless you've got something really important to protect, make an effort here, eh?
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