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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: undergrounder]
    #8482768 - 06/04/08 08:11 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

What would you then spawn the colonised cake to? Wouldn't WBS be a better idea?


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: tripsis]
    #8482779 - 06/04/08 08:17 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Yep sure if you like... BRF/Verm is a lot easier to sterilise though, and does the job fast. I just spawn to chips, let colonise for a while before adding outside. I've never tried WBS because the cakes work fine. Just chop them up well when you add them to the chips.


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: undergrounder]
    #8482785 - 06/04/08 08:19 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Yeah right, that sounds like a fairly good idea. I've got a bunch of petri dishes I dropped spores onto a couple of days agao going at the moment. Have you had success fruiting them?


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: undergrounder]
    #8482789 - 06/04/08 08:24 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

Haha oops i put up the wrong page, i see you found what i was talking about though.
Haha i know a touch of dutch

I have many sub prints, i should give your suggested method a go :cool::thumbup:
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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: Dizzwizzle]
    #8482800 - 06/04/08 08:31 AM (4 months, 5 days ago)

tripsis: I also don't know whether the benefit you get from WBS or Rye or whatever is useful with woodlovers because in the end you have to eventually get them on woodchips and fruit them outside right? whereas cube cultivation sounds like a more exact science where you can control all the variables better and aim for a perfect flush. I've never even tried to grow cubes.

How are the petris going, any contams? I'm not sure whether that's really necessary if you get a good young, clean mushroom and take the print with care, but i did used to get a few contams so maybe it was the spores.

And i have a few beds in the local park but they haven't fruited yet. I used Blue Mountains spores and since they fruit a lot colder i think maybe it's too warm for them in Sydney. Anyway i'll just try spreading some Sydney sub spores around with a water sprayer this year, don't think i'll try to cultivate any myc.


no worries Dizz sounds like you got it pretty sorted anyway


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: undergrounder]
    #8482810 - 06/04/08 08:39 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Yeah not to sure about the benefits of grains, but they are easier to spawn with, that's more what I was thinking.

No contams on the petris yet but it's only been a couple of days. These are Melbourne spores, courtesy of Juke Adro, so if yours are having problems fruiting, I hate to think what mine will be like. I like playing with agar anyway, so whether it's necessary or not doesn't worry me too much, it certainly can't hurt.

Cheers for the info man, 5 for you. Your always a help.


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: tripsis]
    #8482874 - 06/04/08 09:12 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Yea agar is fun, im currently doing some D.F. agar myself with sub spores from when when me n jukey went for a hunt, its working quite well, you shouldnt worry too much:thumbup: it is a bit unpredictable though, being wild prints and all. ill get some pics up soon


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: tmhr1982]
    #8483890 - 06/04/08 02:56 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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tmhr1982 said:
Hello there. I was just wondering if anyone has ever tried to grow Subs from a wild mushroom spore print?




Fuck yeah
my 'friend' is using last years prints- even the ones that dried out and looked like mud going into the syringe have colonised pf jars nicely.
He heard about carboard squares- but it always seems to stop at some point-moisture/nutirents? His compost is riddled with myc aswell, but prone to to contams.
A woodbroth/dextrose lc in a babies bottle seems like the easiest success.. using that colonised lc or some colonised myc chips/card, you can easily spawn some pasteurised straw, poo or woodchips after using boil-in/oven bags and a lil iso alcohol or h202.
I'l just have to keep you posted on fruiting.. in another thread:)

Just for interests sake- maybe iv already said it.. The biggest subs I find are growing on lil banksia nuts, tight curly bark and Euc leaves. They also like growing near 'hakea'.This gear is spread across a woodchip bed, but the growth seems to come straight from these moderately hard/ native woods and their rhizo myc loves lil grooves to follow. Just an idea for growers!


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: undergrounder]
    #8483953 - 06/04/08 03:13 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Yeah thanks undergrounder for that info. Great stuff. Yeah i checked out that dutch side too. Not too bad but I rather try to grow them indoor untouched by any slugs:tongue:


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: tmhr1982]
    #8486169 - 06/04/08 11:58 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Ive done 14 hours of hunting over the last 2 days almost every bush track i know of and all the pine suburbs and ive come up with zilch :frown: Its enough to make a grown man cry lol.

Its like fishing, ive ever only caught one fish. And im 26 years old :rolleyes:

Good luck everyone with there hunts on the weekend hope you have better luck than i did.

Ive got one more area to check which is a fairly big area but its full of leeches. Ill check that tomorrow and if i dont find anything thats the end of me....

Found a few sub look alikes but the caps where blue as well.


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: kingy]
    #8486267 - 06/05/08 12:27 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

found a good double handful of tasty subs today, it would appear the rain has met its mark.:mushroom2:


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: Nobitte]
    #8486681 - 06/05/08 03:04 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Maybe that's your problem kingie, stop hunting bush tracks and start hunting public parks? ive never found a sub in the bush. Ever.


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: Nobitte]
    #8486764 - 06/05/08 03:36 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

very stoked. found some weird looking mushrooms growing near the footpath on my street. All this fungal growth has got me excited, and slightly aroused.
Does anybody know of any mushrooms that can be found in particular near eucalyptus trees? that's where I'm mainly scouting out this weekend.


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: bluelazerbolts]
    #8486819 - 06/05/08 03:51 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Hello shroomery!

I have never tried shrooms before but got bored this afternoon and decided to go down to the bush near my house for a shroom hunt. I didn't really know what I was looking for so I just picked afew of everything I saw. I am in Sydney btw.

Here are photos:

Species #1:

bigger version: http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgp1254aj6.jpg

Habitat: Wood - Found in woodchips, pines, leaves and dirt. only found as singles

Gills: orange/brown separated

Stem: White and blue, very fragile, 0.5-1 CM thick

Cap: Blue to white, smooth and slimy

Spore print color: didn't do a print

Bruising: went a darker blue

Location: Picked in northern beaches of sydney

Species #2:

bigger version: http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imgp1256jh5.jpg

Habitat: clusters on rotting wood and dirt

Gills: white, separated

Stem: White, very thin, 0.2CM thick, some a little bigger

Cap: brownish, had layer of mushroom slime

Spore print color: didn't do a print

Bruising: didnt see much of an effect

Location: Picked in northern beaches of sydney

Species #3:

bigger version: http://img514.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shroomybq4.jpg

Habitat: clusters on rotting wood and dirt

Gills: brown, separated

Stem: brownish 1CM thick, some a little bigger and others smaller. pretty fat stems

Cap: brownish, rough

Spore print color: didn't do a print

Bruising: didnt see much of an effect

Location: Picked in northern beaches of sydney

So yeah if you guys could give me any advice as to whether or not these are any good for tripping I'd be very grateful!


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: Fred]
    #8486843 - 06/05/08 03:58 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Nice finds Fred, welcome to the Shroomery!
I'm pretty sure they're P. Subs although I'd like to see better pictures of the stems/gills.

Where in Sydney are you from by the way?


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: VeeK]
    #8486846 - 06/05/08 04:02 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

They aint subs.

But I really want an ID on the first pic. I've seen so many around in the past and even picked some today to post and ID request but haven't been bothered to yet. Hopefully I won't now.

So any ID's on the first ones?


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: tripsis]
    #8486860 - 06/05/08 04:10 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Yeah the mushies in the first pic are crazy blue!
Isn't that generally a sign of psilocybin?


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: VeeK]
    #8486868 - 06/05/08 04:16 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Hey again! I updated my first post with a basic ID. So at the momment they are all in my wardrobe on newspaper covered by a black t-shirt, with a fan and a 60W light pointing at them. Is this the right thing to do? From what i've read it is.

@Veek, which ones do you think are p.subs?

@tripsis, which ones are not p.subs?

THe main reason I picked the blue ones was cause of their blue colour, I heard that meant they were psychedelic but I know very little about this topic.

I am from Sydney's northern beaches. I can take more photos too if you guys want to ID them better. Just tell me what things you want a closer look at.

NEW PHOTOS:

Ok these are of the stems and gills of the three blue ones. I think the last one is rotting.

All mushrooms together:


1:


2:


3:


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: Fred]
    #8486873 - 06/05/08 04:21 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

The bottom one's aren't subs for sure, and I don't think the tops ones are either.

Staining blue is a sign of psilocybin, being blue is not. Those top ones didn't stain blue right?


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Re: Australia - Nsw 2008 Sub Season [Re: Fred]
    #8486881 - 06/05/08 04:24 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Quote:

Fred said:

@Veek, which ones do you think are p.subs?






Just by looking at the colour of the caps on the 3rd picture.
On closer inspection the cap isn't as smooth as a sub should be, looks very "wrinkly".


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