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 b0red5tiff
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 Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression 
#8237070 - 04/04/08 05:36 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sometimes young people try illegal drugs to fit in or just out of curiosity. But some often try it to escape reality for awhile to get "high". A "high" is the feeling that drug users to describe certain feelings that are experienced after taking drugs. These feelings may be described as happy or spacey feelings. Persons experiencing stress and anxiety take illegal drugs to feel better, to forget about issues or certain problems. Many individuals turn to drugs as a treatment for depression and other emotional and mental problems. One of the drugs used to attain "highness" is lysergic acid diethyiamide (LSD). It is a hallucinogen that is used as a recreational drug, and as a so-called "tool of transcendence." This drug is odorless, colorless, and tasteless. It can be painted on small papers and can be licked or swallowed. Many individuals use this drug to detach themselves from the the real world. LSD us an illegal drug in the United States and other countries around the world.
People refer to this experience as "tripping out." This drug is popular influence in the sixties and seventies. LSD remains a potent drug, as well as a risk to physical and mental health. The potency of this drug is unpredictable and may cause thoughts and feelings to be distorted. Taking 100-200 millionth of a gram of LSD may cause a person to experience a "trip" that may last up to 12 hours. While experiencing a "trip" users tend to see hallucinations of colors, light patterns, and many users claim to have experienced news insights about their personality. One of the effects of LSD is having flashbacks of a user's previous hallucinations. LSD users often experience panic, confusion, sadness, and scary images. Physical changes may include increased heart rate, sweating, loss of appetite, dilated pupils, dry mouth, and shaking. LSD develops addiction because a number of users who take this drug repeatedly end up taking up higher does to achieve the state of "highness" they had previously achieved. LSD mixed with other drugs may contribute to severe health effects that may lead to mental health problems.
Illegal drugs should not be the answer to depression and anxiety. These drugs may lead to addiction and in return develop many physical and mental problems. There are many ways in eliminating and depression and anxiety. The following methods have been proven to be very beneficial in relaxing the mind and therefore relieve mental and emotional troubles:
· Journaling or keeping a diary
· Exercising regularly
· Having a pet
· Yoga
· Music therapy
· Tai chi
· Meditation
People who are suffering from drug addiction should consult specialists that may help them overcome their drug addiction. Drug addiction treatment may include counseling, cognitive therapy, and psychotherapy. Behavioral therapies offer people many strategies that may enable them to cope with their drug cravings, and teach them to avoid drugs and other harmful substances. People should bear in mind that turning to illegal drugs to treat depression is not an option.
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: b0red5tiff]
#8237078 - 04/04/08 05:44 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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People who are suffering from drug addiction should consult specialists that may help them overcome their drug addiction. Drug addiction treatment may include counseling, cognitive therapy, and psychotherapy. Behavioral therapies offer people many strategies that may enable them to cope with their drug cravings, and teach them to avoid drugs and other harmful substances. People should bear in mind that turning to illegal drugs to treat depression is not an option.
Are they insinuating that LSD is addictive? Also, who the hell are they to talk to the general public like we're a bunch of damn children? "not an option." BAH! Anything I want to do with myself is an option, they can go to hell. Peckerheads.
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: b0red5tiff]
#8237330 - 04/04/08 10:17 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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what a load of shit.
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: usefulidiot13]
#8237368 - 04/04/08 10:35 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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it started off all promising with actual information, but the whole time I was getting a sense this was written by a 15 year-old God-Squad team captain trying to impress his little Virgin Mary with how cultured his worldview is 
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: b0red5tiff]
#8237437 - 04/04/08 10:56 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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LSD develops addiction because a number of users who take this drug repeatedly end up taking up higher does to achieve the state of "highness" they had previously achieved.
Bullshit.
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: b0red5tiff]
#8237497 - 04/04/08 11:19 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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These people are clearly addicted to not using drugs.
Since they are addicted to being closed minded and misinformed, they are clearly a danger to open minded, rational, critically thinking people.
Therefore we need to locate them and slip doses into their drinks.
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: DragonChaser]
#8237528 - 04/04/08 11:31 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, LSD is always an option 
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: tripleclick]
#8237815 - 04/04/08 01:04 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Usually professionals don't mix up the terms "potency" and "dose".
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...the whole experience is (and is as) a profound piece of knowledge. It is an indellible experience; it is forever known. I have known myself in a way I doubt I would have ever occurred except as it did.
Smith, P. Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.
...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.
Osmond, H. Annals, NY Acad Science (1957) 66:418-434; p.436
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: badchad]
#8238003 - 04/04/08 01:58 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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"LSD develops addiction because a number of users who take this drug repeatedly end up taking up higher does to achieve the state of "highness" they had previously achieved."
Bro, that doesn't mean your addicted to LSD because your taking a higher dosage to reach a new plateau.
And to touch up on the bad trips side of things. I believe people who have bad trips are the people that cant let there mind go and ride it out. Trust me, when it kicked in and i started seeing patterns everywhere, started getting waves constantly, i knew it was my best option to let go and enjoy this, and nevertheless i had the best experiance in my life by far.
Dont underestimate the drug fuckers, And mate if your depressed LSD is the LAST DRUG your going to fucking take to make things better because i can tell you, at one point in time when your tripping you'll realise why you took the drug because you wanted to relieve your depression, then you'll be sucked into some mind thought loop fuck and you'll be gone, unless you can let go.
Mate me myself i can say i've had some mild depression at times, Doesnt mean i go round taking acid, Just means ill have to rip out a bud and chopup, set my mind at ease.
So for all you depressed people out there, if your not gonna slit your risks ....then have a smoke!
GOOD VIBES PEOPLES!
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: b0red5tiff]
#8238127 - 04/04/08 02:41 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Usually professionals don't mix up the terms "potency" and "dose".
Well the article has multiple errors in general:
"A "high" is the feeling that drug users to describe certain feelings that are experienced after taking drugs." -- Umm what? Was he high when he wrote this?
Also, aren't "emotional" and "mental" problems used to describe the same things? Like Clinical Depression seems like it could fit under both terms.
This is yet another "morality" article where they spend a lot of time telling you that you shouldn't do something (with poor reasoning) and then quickly throwing out "solutions" to the "problem" that everyone has heard before. So for your depression and anxiety you should exercise while listening to Mozart, with your new puppy, then do some meditational yoga to cool down, and write about your experiences. Actually that doesn't sound too bad, but it really didn't give any useful information, basically that you need to do it for yourself; that is if you really feel you have a drug addiction problem. Speaking of which:
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LSD develops addiction because a number of users who take this drug repeatedly end up taking up higher does to achieve the state of "highness" they had previously achieved.
That is actually not the definition of addiction but rather describes drug tolerance.
As for getting counseling or therapy for your "depression" or "drug addiction", I would be careful as many therapists and doctors will immediately put you on anti-depressants or some other drug. Anti-depressants are a bigger drug epidemic in the states than any of the illegal drugs people use on a regular basis. At least people using illegal drugs are not under the false impression that it is good for them or fixing their problems (in general, I know some people probably feel this way). That is not to say that some people don't get some benefits from anti-depressants but I think we can agree that they are way over-prescribed. People are suppose to get depressed sometimes, that is the normal ebb and flow of life. Dependency on medication to put you in a certain relaxed or happy state of mind is a real addiction.
Well this post has gone on too long, but I just wanted to add:
So maybe this guy is correct in his assertions on drug abusers and people that are addicted to illegal drugs in that they could use non-drug methods to relax and/or use outside help. What about us people that just use drugs for the pure FUN of it? I for one love the confused, scary, panicy, sad feelings I can put myself into, and involuntarily get thrust into, while I'm tripping balls! Emotions are living. The greatest sadnesses make the happy times better and vice versa. Everything is relative. Be sad! Be happy! Be alive! Don't be a robot floating through life without emotions; that is what truly sounds depressing to me.
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: RottenFruit]
#8238228 - 04/04/08 03:11 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Actually, the idea of using serotonin agonists as a means of treating depression has much more validity than previously thought. There is a neurological phenomenon called "Long-term potentiation", which is the persistent increase in synaptic strength following high-frequency stimulation of a chemical synapse (using chemicals to kick-start neurons, if you prefer a watered-down laymen's explanation).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_potentiation#cite_note-cooke-0
An oxford journal article discusses the use of non-invasive stimulation techniques to induce LTP-like changes in localized neural activity, which would be the crucial theory behind the use of psychedelics in psychotherapy.
http://brain.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/short/129/7/1659
I'm going to make the claim that Long Term Potentiation will eventually replace Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibition (considering that SSRI's are barely more effective than placebos) as a more effective means of treating Major Depressive Disorder, once we can properly implement these molecules into psychotherapy. The idea is that LSD or psilocybin will cause tetanic stimulation, or a high-frequency sequence of stimulations of a neuron, to the 5-HT receptor in order to retune the sensitivity of the patient's serotonin receptors.
If you feel that the reading level of these studies is over your head... then it is probably over the heads of the idiotic sheeple who claim that substances are dangerous when they can't even pronounce the chemical name, let alone provide a biochemical explanation for their rationale. This article (especially the way the authors' worded the abstract) gives me hope that intelligent people are aware of the potential benefits of psychedelic substances, and with the proper amount of thought and consideration intelligent people will be able to develop rules and regulations that will help integrate the benefits of responsible psychedelic use into our society.
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Edited by Newfound_wonder (04/06/08 06:46 PM)
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: Cyric]
#8238363 - 04/04/08 03:48 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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This news article looks like it was written by a junior high. I thought they might have something intelligent to talk about, like how qualified medical professionals have used LSD as a treatment for depression.
No such luck, more ridiculous propaganda.
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: usefulidiot13]
#8238389 - 04/04/08 03:56 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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what a load of shit.
I agree i thought this would have a better ending or message, or something worthwhile to read...
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: xshadowmage666x]
#8238557 - 04/04/08 04:38 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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what a load of shit.
I agree i thought this would have a better ending or message, or something worthwhile to read...
edit: newfoundwonder's post about LTP's was worth reading actually 
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: Helixx]
#8238701 - 04/04/08 05:31 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's funny that some anti-depressants like Prozac are more damaging to your brain than LSD anyway. But no one harps on those drugs because they're legal, and they're used to treat depression.
However, if LSD was used to treat depression, you wouldn't need to administer it to people but like twice a year, instead of taking a pill daily that ends up cooking your brain rather good.
How far away from the truth are these writers? Where the hell are they getting their information? Have they actually experimented with these drugs themselves? Of course, it is called "tripping out" but yeah, umm, there's a whole bunch more to an LSD experience than the propaganda wants you to believe. I really have never heard of anyone who takes LSD just to "get high". It's a journey, and if you take enough, it's not even a fun one. It teaches you things you can't learn anywhere else...things about yourself and the world around you that you won't read in a textbook anywhere; it's really the ultimate mind-opening drug, and most people don't want you taking it because we all know what happened in the 60's, which terrified the government because it seemed as though the people would revolt against them, so they banned the drug outright.
Imagine having LSD administered in a controlled environment, such as in a psychologist's office, where you have your psych as your sitter, and you lay down on the sofa and all your latent thoughts and repressed memories come out to haunt you, and you discuss them with your psych and you have the experience of rebirth once it's over. Imagine the positive effects in your life...
It's like the near-death experience you would get while having open-heart surgery, just way less dangerous. And you've heard how people look at the world and nature in a whole new light and appreciate life more...that's curing depression. There's been a few studies showing LSD's effectiveness at treating depression, with something like 60% of subjects reporting positive changes in their perspective on life after taking the drug.
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Edited by tyler_0_durden (04/04/08 05:38 PM)
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: b0red5tiff]
#8241717 - 04/05/08 10:26 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Whoever wrote this was trolling, or really fucking stupid. More than likely they are just stupid.
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: fapjack]
#8247076 - 04/06/08 05:28 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: Helixx]
#8249917 - 04/07/08 11:45 AM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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what a load of shit.
I agree i thought this would have a better ending or message, or something worthwhile to read...
edit: newfoundwonder's post about LTP's was worth reading actually
Im sorry you misunderstood me as i was speaking of the original post...and its just my opinion
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: xshadowmage666x]
#8253206 - 04/07/08 11:56 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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No, i was agreeing with you about the original post lol
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Re: Using LSD and Illegal Drugs as Treatment for Depression [Re: Helixx]
#8259589 - 04/09/08 02:19 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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 srry man
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