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Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside)
    #8215672 - 03/30/08 05:45 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

This is bizarre, and maybe I'm misunderstanding it, but... there are ropes of wasting meat, fecal matter, etc, tied up in your colon. The average person has something like seven POUNDS of this in them. google image search 'colon cleanse' or something similar.. here's an example:



Apparently, according to my not-that-reliable source of a friend, it takes something like six months to remove these from your body, and it involves spontaneous shitting.

Any thoughts?


*side note: John Wayne reportedly had over 12 pounds of "meat ropes" in his colon. Now that's manly.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: jonnywax]
    #8215920 - 03/30/08 06:56 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

Well, I don't think this is true.. And I don't know what to think about that picture.

But I once saw an episode of that Penn and Teller show called "Bullshit" and they were checking out colon cleansing and how effective colonics are. What they said was that your colon is basically a smooth tube and there are no "pockets" for these ropes of wasting meat and other shit to get stuck in.

If you get a colonic, you are basically flushing the crap out of your system that you would normally shit out the next day. I think this sounds logical and I believe it, but I'm not completely sure.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: grassman]
    #8215960 - 03/30/08 07:06 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

Interesting. I'd be pretty happy to know that there aren't meat ropes in my body. If someone could shed some light on this with facts, that'd be awesome.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: jonnywax]
    #8215988 - 03/30/08 07:16 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

Looks like a tapeworm..


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: jonnywax]
    #8216000 - 03/30/08 07:18 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

Supposedly these are a hoax. The medical establishment does not recognize that they exist. They aren't seen during colonoscopies, autopsies, or surgeries. And yet the people that pay all of that money for the special fiber cleanses to get rid of them report them coming out after a while. The only thing I can think of is that they're formed by some ingredient in the cleanses.

They're called "Mucoid Plaques."


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: Brainiac]
    #8216003 - 03/30/08 07:19 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

If thats what you think it is. I'll bet taking that picture was awful, that had to smell like dead babies.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: Matthew311oh]
    #8216177 - 03/30/08 08:03 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

Thats sick. But i dont know weather or not all that is factual.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: mushfan01]
    #8216221 - 03/30/08 08:10 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

The problem is that you guys have not heard the rest of the stories with colon cleanses.

I read a guys story, where he said that orange, blue and black colored lumps would come out. he even said that a a grey sack came out of him.

Penn and Teller are puppets, to the corporate interests. I saw their documentary on 9/11 and it involved a interview with an uninformed person who knew little but a small inconsistent fact about 9/11.

If you watch the 9/11 documentaries you hear indisputable evidence that 9/11 was fake, but these guys casually leave out so many truths and have a guy with little knowledge testify why he believes it was caused by the people who profit from war and hatred.

For example - they left out that NORAD the was put under the power of dick cheney two weeks before 9/11 and it took them 80 minuts to respond to the hijackings after they first found out about them, because of inner confusion, purposfully placed. normally it takes them 3 minutes to intersect any plane off course from a hijack....another thing they left out of their documentary was the fact that george bushes cousing, jeb bush, bought the security companie in charge of monitoring activity in the building...another thing was that they left that that a week before 9/11 they shut all the power down in the buildings. This is of no consequence man, 9/11 was perpetrated for profits of companies, whom are the richest in the world...currently the world spends 10 trillion dollars a year on weapons and machines of war. Fuck its no coincidence that dick cheney owns the main fucking company that sells weapons to the government. GOd damn its so obvious once you see that shit...but in main stream stuff, you never see it, all you see is..AN american would never do that, shame on you for questioning!!!
I agree an american wouldnt do that...but a fucking a company would!!!
Go to Dr. Natura.com (google it) and see the testimonials.

Medical science is catered towards the profits of industries. They make money from you being sick. Read a book called; Kevin Treadau, natural cures.

This is just the same thing as before when they 'proved' that smoking was not bad for you. It will repeat itself because of a lack of knowledge and to much trust in government and coprorations.

i will be trying it out soon enough. I'll tell you how it turns out.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8216347 - 03/30/08 08:32 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

:lol:

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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8216378 - 03/30/08 08:35 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

Dude. WTF does the 9/11 conspiracy and corporate interests have to do with some alternative medicine nut scamming people into paying for stuff they don't need? If mucoid plaques were really endemic to most people in the U.S., modern medicine would say something about it, as doctors would be dealing with them every day. And the pharmaceutical companies of course would be selling us something to take care of them. If mucoid plaque was real, people would pay big pharma hundreds of dollars to get rid of them. Instead, some dodgy new-age medicine dude tricks them into swallowing indigestible fibers and gels that form into the weird shit they find coming out of themselves. There are no corporate interests behind hiding the existance of these ass-rope things. They simply don't exist. And alternative-medicine practicioners scamming stupid and gullible people is almost as old as corporations taking advantage of the same.

And btw, Kevin Treadau's "Natural Cures" is the most expensive roll of toilet paper I've ever seen for sale. Of its content, what isn't common knownledge is missinformation.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: Taharka]
    #8216423 - 03/30/08 08:40 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

:thumbup:

Thank you for saying everything I was laughing too hard to verbalize.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8216503 - 03/30/08 08:54 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

I'm not sure what 9/11 had to do with this topic, but miracle cures and alternative remedies are nothing new.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: jonnywax]
    #8216959 - 03/30/08 10:10 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

i look at a lot of medical records at my job, sometimes i turn over one page in the stack of records and BAM! a color photo of a 55 yr old guy's colon from his colonoscopy. from these unfortunate but frequent instances I will admit that I have never seen anything but a pink inside of a colon.

Your intestines are designed like a balloon, the tube only expands when there is food passing through that area, then it returns to a normal state. Picture a snake eating a bunny, thats what food looks like in your intestines.

so, that would mean you would have some serious fucking constipation issues and probably a serious medical condition if you had a long string of whatever that is just sitting in your colon. IMHO.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: thecornking]
    #8217328 - 03/30/08 11:06 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

Irratable bowel syndrome comes to mind, the cornking. I know that on average alot of people in this country poo like once every two days. I go 2-3 times daily. To the previous posters, you dont have to believe anything i said so dont feel angry. I was just refering to the post that talked about Penn and Teller saying colon cleansing is a gimmick. Basically that they are puppet for profit makers, namely pharma and war industries.

Like mentioned previously...the pick isnt the only stuff that comes out of people - pictures of orange, red and dark blue clumps of crap come out when these people do colon cleanses.

They also talk about how great the feel and how they go to the washroom much better now.

Did you know that most the studies in the world concerning medical subjects, are funded by pharmaceutical companies???

Ever wonder why there is so many different points of view on a single subject, with studies backing up both points of view?


Profit and power. Conspiracies are a waste of time, just use logic - natural cleanses, supplements and herbs CANNOT BE PATENTED OR COPYRIGHTED.

This means no control over the sales and NO PROFIT HORDING.

I wish you all the best, really i am here because i care for your well being and wish you the best of luck on finding the truth.

PS. if you find differently please tell me?

here is Dr. Natura

http://www.drnatura.com/colonix_program.php?gclid=CNuUie3JtpICFQL1PAodsmGuKw


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Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8217342 - 03/30/08 11:08 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

But you believe this is all a big conspiracy?

You believe that GI doctors throughout the land are covering up evidence of this stuff.

Right?


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8217369 - 03/30/08 11:13 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

http://www.drnatura.com/colon_detox_images/colon_detox_105.html

WOW. This guy had this lodged up there. Amazingly horrible.


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And remember the computer does not appear to respond to words of anger and frustration - just give it input, in the form of new meanings that you know to be true and its messages to you and the limits it lays out for you, will change.

Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8217395 - 03/30/08 11:18 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

this one is so nasty i want o make sure you all see it.



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Guilt is an outcome of believing you are the cause of the problems.

Yet, we are not a cause to something, we see is negative or bad - Unless you believe your intentions are directed towards a bad outcome....


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: JoseLibrado]
    #8217525 - 03/30/08 11:47 PM (8 months, 1 day ago)

Problem is, there are no real studies backing the existence of Mucoid plaque. And of course the people doing the magical colon cleanse shit feel better. They are downing huge amounts of fiber everday, which probably isn't bad for them. But if there were anything looking like that inside of people, then doctors, morticians, med students doing dissections, etc. would see them every day. If they were actually inside the majority of people, it would not be disputed. What is coming out of these people is probably something that's caused by the "cures" they're taking in the first place.

If you really want to support your claims, go on PubMed and find some decent articles. So far, you've posted testimonials and pictures from a website trying to sell us something. You know that there are companies that will write testimonials, and even construct entire web forums full of fake people talking about a product? The latest in advertising in the internet age.

You really believe in this stuff, huh. What's come out of your ass?

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Just did a search on DrNatura and colon cleansing. It reminds me of exactly what I saw with the Hoodia boom a few years ago. A bunch of websites all selling colon cleanse products, all plugging each other. Probably all owned by the same corporation. And the few, honestly independant reviews you can find, that aren't on some "colon-cleanse-this" or "colonix-that" website say it doesn't work.

Also, the DrNatura website warns that if you let your fiber drink sit too long, it will become to thick to drink and you'll have to toss it out and make more. I'm guessing that it contains some kind of polymer (natural or not) that forms those ropes in your own body. Then you get to shit them back out and feel like you're ridding yourself of toxins. Which you are. But they weren't there until you felt the need to do something about them.

"Profit and power. Conspiracies are a waste of time, just use logic - natural cleanses, supplements and herbs CANNOT BE PATENTED OR COPYRIGHTED"

No, but they can be sold at huge markups to gullible people over the TV and internet.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: Taharka]
    #8217769 - 03/31/08 12:52 AM (8 months, 1 day ago)

You're Dr. fucking Natura website obviously has a bias and its pretty clear that their agenda is to sell you shit that you don't need.

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Profit and power. Conspiracies are a waste of time, just use logic


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: grassman]
    #8218634 - 03/31/08 09:41 AM (8 months, 1 day ago)

Quote:

What they said was that your colon is basically a smooth tube and there are no "pockets" for these ropes of wasting meat and other shit to get stuck in.




"Colon" cleansing is actually a bit misleading, as the cleansing takes place in both the small and large intestines, which are most definitely NOT "smooth tubes."

The lining of the intestinal walls:





http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Human_Physiology/The_gastrointestinal_system#Small_Intestine

As you can see, there are many folds in which matter can accumulate, in addition to the millions of villi projecting from the intestinal walls. Of course, much of the bulk you see in these "ropes" is composed of psyllium "gel," which is also what makes the drinks too thick after sitting for a while. The benefit of the gel forming during digestion is that it traps whatever matter may be stuck in the various folds and projections within the intestines, then moves out easily.

If you are consuming the Standard American Diet, it is very likely that your intestinal tract is both inflamed AND coated with toxic matter. This matter would not be visible as "ropes," but rather as a cloudy mucus coating. (The intestines form mucus in response to irritants.) The common occurrence of gastrointestinal disorders in those who consume the "Western" diet supports the claim that our intestines are unhealthy.

IMO, a "colon" cleanse is a great idea, particularly if it is done as a fresh start prior to transitioning into a health-supporting diet. :thumbup:


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: Veritas]
    #8218724 - 03/31/08 10:14 AM (8 months, 23 hours ago)

Good post. :thumbup: That sounds believable.


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Re: Colon Cleansing (fun picture inside) [Re: Taharka]
    #8218745 - 03/31/08 10:26 AM (8 months, 23 hours ago)

good info veritas, although you were slightly off when you said that the intestines secrete mucous in response to irritants, they do, but they secrete them on a constant basis to lubricate your waste and protect your linings. :thumbup:




here is a good article from a doctor that i feel has very good information, Dr. Ben Kim, his website has alot of useful stuff, and if you subscribe to his newsletter he often sends out helpful articles related to your health, staying healthy and other things like meal recipes and etc.




How to Keep Your Colon Clean and Healthy

By Dr. Ben Kim on March 30, 2008

* Natural Health Solutions

If you want to experience your best health, an essential requirement is keeping your colorectal region clean and healthy. Keeping your colon and rectum clean and healthy provides a number of health benefits, the main ones being:

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A lowered risk of developing colorectal cancer, the second or third leading type of cancer in most industrialized countries.
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A lowered risk of experiencing irritable bowel syndrome, chronic constipation, and chronic diarrhea.
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A lowered risk of developing hemorrhoids.
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Less objectionable gas production.
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More efficient absorption of water and minerals.
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A feeling of lightness, comfort, and well-being in your abdominal region.

Your colon and rectum are collectively referred to as your large intestine, which is the last part of your digestive tract.
A Journey Through Your Large Intestine

Please note: To listen to an audio (mp3) recording of this article, please download and play the following file: How to Keep Your Colon Clean and Healthy - Audio File

After food passes through your stomach and small intestine, the remaining material, mostly waste products in liquid form, move on to the first part of your large intestine - your colon.

Your colon is approximately 6 feet long and serves primarily to dehydrate liquid waste material.

Your colon begins at the lower right hand corner of your abdomen, where it is called your cecum. Attached to your cecum is a twisted, worm-shaped tube called your appendix.

From your cecum, your colon travels up the right side of your abdomen, where it is called your ascending colon. When it reaches your lower right ribs (just below your liver), it turns to travel across your abdomen to just below your lower left ribs; here, it's called your transverse colon.

Just below your lower left ribs, it makes another turn and travels down the left side of your abdomen - this portion is called your descending colon.

Your colon then makes one last turn toward the middle of your abdomen, forming an "S" shaped segment that is called your sigmoid colon.

Your sigmoid colon empties waste materials into your rectum, which is like a storage pouch that holds onto your feces until contractions in your large intestine stimulate a bowel movement.

In order to understand how to keep your colorectal region clean and healthy, let's go over a few key details on how your large intestine works.
Large Intestine Physiology

Movement of Waste Material

After you eat a substantial meal, your stomach expands enough to trigger a reflex that causes a contractile wave (called a peristaltic wave) to travel through your small intestine and push any liquid waste material (chyme) that is sitting in the last part of your small intestine into your large intestine.

Once enough liquid waste material accumulates in your cecum (the first part of your large intestine), the waste material begins to move up your ascending colon.

Movement of waste material through your colon is facilitated by something called "haustral churning." Your colon is divided along its length into small pouches called haustra. When a haustrum is filled with substantial waste material, its muscular walls contract and push the waste material into the next haustrum. The contractile reflex that allows haustral churning is regulated by your enteric nervous system, which is a division of your autonomic nervous system.

On average, your colon experiences anywhere from about 3 to 12 moderate waves of contractions every minute. After every substantial meal, your colon experiences a much larger contractile wave, called "mass peristalsis." Mass peristalsis serves to push waste materials from your transverse colon all the way to your rectum. In most people, mass peristalsis occurs about three times a day.

Water and Nutrient Absoption

The mucosal lining of your large intestine is lined with tiny pits that open into long, tube-like intestinal glands; these glands are lined with specialized cells that absorb water, and other specialized cells (goblet cells) that release mucous into your large intestine to lubricate your stools and to protect the lining of your large intestine against acidic substances and noxious gases.

The specialized cells that absorb water from your waste materials are responsible for about 10 percent of the water that you absorb from the foods and beverages that you ingest; the remaining 90 percent is absorbed by cells that line your small intestine.

This 10 percent of water absorption in your large intestine amounts to anywhere between a pint and a quart of water in most people, and represents a significant portion of your body's daily intake of water. As water is absorbed from the waste material in your colon, so are some nutrients, mainly minerals like sodium and chloride.

It takes anywhere between 3 to 10 hours for your large intestine to absorb enough water from waste material to turn it into solid or partially solid stools. Your stools consist mainly of water, mucous, fiber, old cells from your intestinal lining, milions of microorganisms, and small amounts of inorganic salts.

When your rectal pouch is distended with enough feces to trigger a contractile reflex, your feces are pushed out through your anus. When you consciously contract your abdominal wall, your diaphragm moves downward and helps open up muscles that line your anal sphincter.

Your rectum is lined with three horizontal folds, called your rectal valves; these valves are what prevent stools from passing through your anal sphincter when you pass gas.

If you choose not to release stools when you experience an urge to do so, your reflex contractions may stop, in which case you likely won't have a significant bowel movement until the next mass peristalsis occurs.
Diarrhea and Constipation Explained

When waste material travels through your digestive tract too quickly for sufficient water absorption to occur, your stools will be runny and more frequent than normal.

Three main causes of diarrhea are:

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Undesirable microorganisms
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Food intolerances (like lactose intolerance)
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Stress

In the first two cases listed above, it makes sense that your body would want things to move quickly through your system; your body doesn't want to spend time digesting foods that it cannot properly extract nutrients from or that are laced with disease-causing microbes.

Stress can cause transit time to shorten by messing with your enteric nervous system; please recall that your enteric nervous system controls the reflex contractions that mark "haustral churning." Your enteric nervous system is a part of your autonomic nervous system, and your autonomic nervous system regulates your physiological responses to emotional and physical stress.

When waste material travels through your colon more slowly than it should, so much water is sucked out of your waste material that your stools become hard.

Five main causes of constipation are:

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Eating sporadically, or eating meals that are too small to illicit mass peristalsis.
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Not going when you feel an urge to go
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Lack of a healthy intestinal lining that is capable of producing enough mucous to properly lubricate your stools (vitamin A deficiency is a potential cause of this situation)
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Insufficient intake of water, water-rich foods, and/or fiber-rich foods.
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Stress

Natural Ways to Keep your Colorectal Region Clean and Healthy

Please note: A number of the following ways to keep your colon and rectum healthy are tied to preventing chronic constipation.

Chronic constipation is the single greatest cause of having an unclean and unhealthy colorectal region because over time, constipation causes your bowel walls to face excessive pressure - pressure that is created by you straining to go and by your colon walls creating stronger contractions to help eliminate hard stools.

Excessive pressure on your colon walls can cause little pouches called diverticuli to form. Sometimes, small bits of waste material can get lodged in diverticuli.

Eat substantial meals; don't nibble on small amounts throughout the day.

Each time you eat a substantial meal, you stimulate stretch receptors in your stomach that are responsible for triggering normal and mass peristaltic waves throughout your small and large intestines, ensuring regular movement of waste material through your colon and rectum.

Also, eating substantial meals allows significant "chunks" of waste materials to travel together through your colon, turn into well formed stools, and get eliminated from your body in an efficient manner.

Don't suppress the desire to go.

If you regularly suppress the urge to have a bowel movement, waste materials spend more time than is optimal in your colon, causing excessive dehydration of waste materials and formation of hard stools.

Avoid anal intercourse.

Your anus is an exit, and your anal sphincter is not designed to comfortably allow external objects to enter your rectal pouch. Your anal sphincter is designed to stretch to allow passing of stools when your rectal pouch accumulates enough waste materials to illicit contraction of its walls.