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 Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls?
#8208171 - 03/28/08 08:29 PM (9 months, 7 days ago) |
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So, I had the TV on and that Hills show on MTV came on. I noticed how every single girl on the show was only friends with other pretty girls. I thought this was really weird, I kept asking myself, "where are the ugly girls at? why don't they have any friends that are ugly?"
Then I looked back on my high school years and I remembered how all the pretty girls were only friends with other pretty girls.
I'm confused here. What is the reason for this, do they judge a persons character based on looks? If that is the case, where in the world would they even get that idea?
If you're a girl, does having more pretty friends make you more popular? What's this all about?
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: appleorange]
#8208809 - 03/28/08 11:30 PM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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High School is like a miniaturized version of our classist way of life, except instead of money it's popularity.
Now, all the guys will want the pretty girls right? So the pretty ones get tons of attention, and are instantly popular. A popular person hanging out with a loser is about as likely as a wealthy individual hanging out with a middle to lower class individual. It happens, but it's pretty rare.
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: AlCapwn]
#8208833 - 03/28/08 11:42 PM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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Like begets like. Just like all my friends are generally mechanically inclined, intelligent (not necessarily common sense  ) and creative. I attract qualities in people that are compatible with mine.
Look at your own friends and notice how many of their qualities mirror yours.
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: appleorange]
#8209264 - 03/29/08 04:05 AM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls?
It was nowhere in your post that I could detect something to point out that the (pretty) girls were also dumb. So my question to you is is why does your title contain the word "dumb"?
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"where are the ugly girls at? why don't they have any friends that are ugly?"
How did you conclude that "ugly" girls don't hang out with other ugly girls? Is this a fact?
When I was in high school, I hung out with both girls and boys, but I think I got along better with boys. Probably because when I was around girls only, the discussions seemed to get repetitive (hence the feeling of dumbness that you mentioned maybe?)
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I'm confused here. What is the reason for this, do they judge a persons character based on looks? If that is the case, where in the world would they even get that idea?
If you're a girl, does having more pretty friends make you more popular? What's this all about?
From my own observations, girls hanging out with girls and having girl talk is a social trend, it "looks good". But what I've noticed is that they don't necessarily have to be dumb. Being a teenager can be quite confusing due to the fact that until that age both girls and boys don't have the chance to develop a personality of their own and start thinking for themselves. So they just go with herd. It is only later on that some of those confused teen agers get the chance to find out who they are, create their own experience and shape their psyche.
I think that labeling someone as being dumb for doing that is somehow obtuse, I think it's more important and insightful to observe the mechanism behind those choices.
There's one more thing I'd like to add: isn't it that the terms "pretty" and "ugly" are also socially and culturally settled? With that kind of labeling, you might fall in the same collective trap as the girls you were mentioning do.
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#8209299 - 03/29/08 04:53 AM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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actually pretty and ugly are somewhat universal and biologically based.
of course thats not the whole story.
i'm sure google would have more info.
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: truekimbo2]
#8209325 - 03/29/08 05:42 AM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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Google can provide with any kinds of answers and info, what's your point here?
I was asking the OP, not google search
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: truekimbo2]
#8209403 - 03/29/08 06:46 AM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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Actually, let's take a look at a few examples of the notions of beauty throughout the history and cultures:
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: appleorange]
#8209531 - 03/29/08 08:27 AM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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Among adolescent girls (I've worked with adolescents for two decades), jealousy is a painful emotion and pain often evokes anger. Most of the girls' fights are based on jealousy or on envy. Males might 'size' other males in terms of 'I could take him in a fight,' but straight males don't usually allow themselves to envy the face or physique of other males, become envious of other males' God-given-genetic-gifts and immediately hate the other guy. Girls DO behave this way, partly from social conditioning, but partly from the biological imperative upon which the social conditioning is based. Physically desirable females have a higher degree of survival and beyond that, possibilities for great prosperity because they're competed for by the highest bidding males.
The pretty girl clique has biological bases as I see it, which translate onto the social plane as adolescent cliques in which the females have the same amount of popularity based upon their physical desirability. In Miami which is a hyper-sexualized climate deriving from South American (e.g., Brazilian jeans, Brazilian waxing), Cuba, and other culturally similar (including a reaction against Catholic sexual repression) groups, sexiness has become the numero uno value among females. A very beautiful girl can completely neglect any intellectual development and yet be sought over a not-so-beautiful girl with thinking abilities, curiosity, good grades. This often carries over into that specialized aspect of intellectual development - moral development. I am absolutely awed by the number of females who have turned to pornography and hence prostitution in our culture. Middle school girls are posting provocative pics on MySpace, FaceBook and elsewhere. Eighth grader girls come to school on non-uniform days wearing stiletto-heeled boots and Brazilian jeans so tight it looks like they've been dipped in paint. I really do not want to look at rhinestoned names like 'Juicy' on the ass of a 12 year old, not to mention camel toe!
Pretty girls often fail to develop any character and build upon their self-importance which turns to conceit and arrogance. They may squabble among themselves, but they collectively still attack not-so-pretty girls in primitive tribal ways using words more than physical violence. There is a world of difference between girls who are ignored, or worse, ridiculed for their looks versus girls who have to beat away boys with a stick and who run up huge cell phone bills. These differences turn into 'birds-of-a-feather, flock together.' Recently, a female (lawyer) friend of ours discontinued a friendship of several years because of envy. My Lady is partnered and she is not, and when they go out together, my Lady gets more attention from men, including Barack Obama who flirted with her after he spoke in Miami. It was a fluke, but it was the straw-that-broke-the-camel's-back. So this dynamic extends way into adulthood. Another attractive female friend who moved away from Florida once told us that she only kept good-looking girlfriends - not because she's bisexual or gay but because she didn't want to have to deal with these kinds of female dynamics.
I Hope this has been helpful.
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#8209554 - 03/29/08 08:48 AM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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I find it best to just keep my friendships to other women who don't think about these sorts of things. "I can't be friends with her because she's prettier than me", "I hate her because she is more successful than me", what a load of crap.
Unfortunately, I've found in doing so that I don't have many female friends. The ones who aren't obsessed with female sexual competition are pretty few and far between. It sucks!
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: adrug]
#8209779 - 03/29/08 10:55 AM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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I think he reffered to them as dumb seeing as they obviously cant see past external perceptions (good looks) so they feel the need to only have pretty friends, we've all witnessed this in schools.
However some can see past external perception, yet then when we see and ugly girl and beautiful girl as friends people could then say its just the pretty girl who doesnt want any competition.
All these are just assumptions based on nothing but external perceptions by the witness...
so no-ones right or wrong lol
While we're on the subject people say its so hard to find a pretty girl that is smart, what a load of shit!!!
The only reason theyre so into theyre looks is because other people have treated them different theyre whole lives because of it, how it that theyre fault?
Ive found most girls are willing to listen to anything you have to say and they will soak it up much faster than a so called "smart man" with all his strict mental attachments unwilling to shutup and listen. Its like men sit there and while your speaking all they're thinking about is what they're going to say next so they're not even hearing you, ive found most girls listen & hear you and respond accordingly. They don't have as many attachments as men do, they are more loving, plus they smell nicer too
Typical "smart man" to girl...
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: adrug]
#8209910 - 03/29/08 11:58 AM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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Aside from that adolescent dynamic where a 'pretty girl' gets followers of 'not-so-pretty girls' in order to catch the boys that the pretty girl rejects (like remoras who swim along-side of sharks to eat scraps), girls OR guys who appear to 'have it together,' who seem to be 'whole' relative to others, are usually shunned because of envy.
One of the supermarkets we shop at is in prestigious Aventura, Florida. We have nicknames for all the markets we use and this one is the 'trophy-wife' store. I once saw two gorgeous women walking towards one another on an aisle - a blonde and a brunette. Both were tall, shapely, and obviously 'well-kept' but still normal enough to shop for themselves. Instead of perhaps a nod, an acknowledgement of one another's obvious similarities, they both literally turned their respective noses up and their faces expressed disdain for each other. I laughed out loud.
Competition which was seemingly based on no more than visual perception and self-comparison of each other's physical appearance. "Beautiful ignoramuses" was my late uncle's expression - apt because as well as being ignorant, they completely ignored each other.
We too are extremely alone where we live, and partly because of the glamour of Miami which we do not desire to embody (many people live way beyond their means and only a paycheck or two away from foreclosure and bankruptcy), and which is counter-intellectual.
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#8210127 - 03/29/08 12:47 PM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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gaad I am only a paycheck away from forclosure and bankruptcy -
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: appleorange]
#8210363 - 03/29/08 01:34 PM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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I kept asking myself, "where are the ugly girls at?
And then I asked myself, "Why would AO end a sentence with a preposition?"
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: appleorange]
#8210384 - 03/29/08 01:37 PM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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appleorange said:
So, I had the TV on and that Hills show on MTV came on. I noticed how every single girl on the show was only friends with other pretty girls. I thought this was really weird, I kept asking myself, "where are the ugly girls at? why don't they have any friends that are ugly?"
Then I looked back on my high school years and I remembered how all the pretty girls were only friends with other pretty girls.
I'm confused here. What is the reason for this, do they judge a persons character based on looks? If that is the case, where in the world would they even get that idea?
If you're a girl, does having more pretty friends make you more popular? What's this all about?
Like attracts like.
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: appleorange]
#8210484 - 03/29/08 01:58 PM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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Birds of a feather, flock together
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: MushroomTrip]
#8210755 - 03/29/08 03:19 PM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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MushroomTrip said:
Actually, let's take a look at a few examples of the notions of beauty throughout the history and cultures:
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: MDMC]
#8210760 - 03/29/08 03:20 PM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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MDMC said:
Birds of a feather, flock together
I believe it's "Birds of the same feather flock together"
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: Ginseng1]
#8210892 - 03/29/08 03:58 PM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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Ginseng1 said:
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MDMC said:
Birds of a feather, flock together
I believe it's "Birds of the same feather flock together"
Then you believe wrong. 
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: fireworks_god]
#8212482 - 03/29/08 09:43 PM (9 months, 6 days ago) |
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what's your point here?
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There's one more thing I'd like to add: isn't it that the terms "pretty" and "ugly" are also socially and culturally settled? With that kind of labeling, you might fall in the same collective trap as the girls you were mentioning do.
i was saying its not social and cultural, all those pictures you posted except for the fat lady painting are more similar than they are dissimilar.
symmetry and particular ratios to features determine universal perception of beauty. like i said thats not the whole story, but its true.
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Re: Why Do Dumb Pretty Girls Hang Out With Other Dumb Pretty Girls? [Re: truekimbo2]
#8215572 - 03/30/08 05:21 PM (9 months, 5 days ago) |
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wow i feel abit shallow cause i really only care to be around pretty girls too not all of em are dumb tho. tho i really prefer cute cute girls and those are either really smart is scary or like shiny objects or like shiny objects and are really intelligent at the same time. its strange.
An example of like people grouping is emo people lol.
oh duh i forgot to put it out there maybe pretty people like having sex with pretty people and touching them and stuff like that. so if you want to be in prettiness and have pretty people sex and pretty people all sorts of stuff you gota be with other pretty people. ugly people take away from that, fine you can say ugly people have their own beauty,but hell i dont really care for it like the taste of my food, food has a taste doesnt it? its either good or bad tasting despite being what it is. no good or bad can lie on many factors one being the cook and what its made of while the other factor even if it was prepared well that it is not your preferance.
I think i just comes down to attraction, i personally like to chill with people im attracted to it makes it all the better when it comes down to alot of things.
i find that girls i find physically attractive and there minds attractive find me attractive in the same way tho they might not always be open to say that at the moment but in private they might or do... reguardless i think its part of human nature to gather with people your attracted to and if its true attraction then it makes it even sweeter
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