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 Re: water torch [Re: Seuss]
#8336719 - 04/28/08 05:11 AM (7 months, 4 days ago) |
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this thread makes me 
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Seuss
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> It looks like your beloved John Kanzuis
Is this the same John Kanzius that recently discovered the cure for cancer?
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Yep it is... how funny...
"John Kanzius has found a way to burn salt water with the same radio wave machine he is using to kill cancer cells." - http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:John_Kanzius_Produces_Hydrogen_from_Salt_Water_Using_Radio_Waves
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Re: water torch [Re: Seuss]
#8336977 - 04/28/08 09:53 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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Seuss
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Re: water torch [Re: Annom]
#8337868 - 04/28/08 02:46 PM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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What? You don't think a retired television repair man and high school dropout can solve the worlds energy and health problems with the same invention? Dude, just watch youtube... it is all right there! I'm surprised the government lets the guy continue to live.
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Re: water torch [Re: Seuss]
#8338559 - 04/28/08 05:56 PM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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They've killed him several times, but he keeps coming back to life. 
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Re: water torch [Re: Seuss]
#8341012 - 04/29/08 05:59 AM (7 months, 3 days ago) |
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Seuss said:
> It looks like your beloved John Kanzuis
Is this the same John Kanzius that recently discovered the cure for cancer?
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Yep it is... how funny...
"John Kanzius has found a way to burn salt water with the same radio wave machine he is using to kill cancer cells." - http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:John_Kanzius_Produces_Hydrogen_from_Salt_Water_Using_Radio_Waves
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Re: water torch [Re: matt]
#8342857 - 04/29/08 05:32 PM (7 months, 2 days ago) |
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Haha I think I'll take tha last laugh on thathttp://search.cbsnews.com/?source=cbs&q=john+kanzius
You guys crack me up. Oh and by the way faradays electrolysis theory doesn't account for negatively charged water gas clusters. Here's an excerpt from the korean companys patent on this. It explains why most people don't the understand the characteristics of this gas yet
2. Description of the Prior Art
Generally, in order to generate energy by burning fossil
fuel, a great quantity of air must be supplied to a
combustion chamber and a great quantity of exhaust gas
is discharged to the atmosphere. The amount of lost
energy contained in the exhaust gas is about 60% or more
of the total generated energy.
In researches into the field of electrolysis, no great
progress has been made since Michael Faraday established
the theory of electrolysis in 1833.
That is, the method of electrolysis was established
and well known, but the method of electrolysis has
not been applied to boilers, heaters, heating
furnaces, etc. for commercial use.
The fact that the method of electrolysis has not
been utilized in commercial
applications results from theoretical and technological
deficiency. The
theoretical deficiency is that the implosion and
thermal reaction
characteristics of the Brown gas have not been known. The
technological
deficiency is that there occur problems including the
leakage of water from a torch tip, etc. while the
electrolytic bath is operated continuously
because the development of an electrolytic bath is
not sufficient.
Any more questions just keep asking?
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Seuss
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> Any more questions just keep asking?
What is the magnitude of the negatively charged implosive force?
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Re: water torch [Re: Seuss]
#8344454 - 04/29/08 11:22 PM (7 months, 2 days ago) |
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The implosive force is a certain aspect of its amazingness but hardly the only thing that separates it from the pack. I would suggest actually watching the videos on youtube that are listed under hho it tells you far more than I could spout off about it. And also look at the interview of Moray B King on their as well he explains the scientific side of things very well. Also this gas sublimates tungsten which means it burns at around 6000C which is twice as hot as a oxyacetylene torch so again please actually ready into this before dismissing it outright and giving me links to things I've already seen.
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“I believe that water will one day be employed as fuel, that hydrogen and oxygen which constitute it, used singly or together, will furnish an inexhaustible source of heat and light, of an intensity of which coal is not capable.” – Jules Verne, T
“Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature."
- Nikola Tesla
Edited by buddhahoodlum (05/01/08 06:35 AM)
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Anno
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buddhahoodlum said:
Any more questions just keep asking?
When will you demonstrate your over unity electrolysis car thingy to us?
When will Steorn demonstrate their over unity Orbo thingy to us?
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Seuss
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Re: water torch [Re: Anno]
#8352843 - 05/02/08 07:50 AM (7 months, 1 hour ago) |
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> When will Steorn demonstrate their over unity Orbo thingy to us?
Not until they solve the problem with the unbalanced chiral centers in the oxytungsten amalgamation. They are getting close to solving this problem using unbalanced monopliodic ionocovalent bonds to resonate the electrons in excited browns gas to a natural vibration. It is only a matter of time.
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Re: water torch [Re: Seuss]
#8354386 - 05/02/08 04:04 PM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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Very interesting Seuss.
I've emailed them and suggested they try the retroencabulator by rockwell for those unbalanced monopliodic ionocovalent bond resonances
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Re: water torch [Re: johnm214]
#8354475 - 05/02/08 04:31 PM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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That shit is funny as hell! The only other time I saw it was years ago in the pub.
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Re: water torch [Re: johnm214]
#8365208 - 05/05/08 02:23 PM (6 months, 27 days ago) |
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Umm I never made the claim that it was overunity Anno It could be but that is also going to take better cell efficiency and slowly but surely it looks like they are getting to that point with new electronics. But mainly I just want to have a badass water torch. Those vids on youtube clearly show me that they are using water torches that will melt steel bars into bricks no problem at all. The part that your are missing in this puzzle is not the fact that it's just hydrogen and oxygen mixed together close to stoichiometric but the fact that it's a electrically energized state of gaseous matter. If you look at this vid right here http://youtube.com/watch?v=NsCDVjNkLuc it clearly demonstrates this strange effect. This is not anything that has been recorded in your local chemistry book but the inventor William A Rhodes PhD will tell you exactly what you need to know about it.
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Seuss
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> the fact that it's just hydrogen and oxygen mixed together close to stoichiometric
You are making progress! (I'm not trying to be sarcastic or condescending.)
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buddhahoodlum said:Umm I never made the claim that it was overunity Anno...
What you are describing here is an over unity device.
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buddhahoodlum said:
My personal goal with this technology is create a water fuel cell that I will install in my car and run it off my battery while the battery is being recharged by the cars alternator. This will give me at least a 30% boost in gas mileage and a 10% increase in power.
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My next comment on this thread is going to be a full proof demo of my water torch that will quite all of the nay sayer's out there. And again I have no idea if its overunity or not I just know that its a far cleaner and more efficient burning gas then gasoline thats pretty hard to dispute. Faraday and all of other electrolysis tinkers used to separate the oxygen and hydrogen into seperate ducts this is simply mixed together. Also did you guys watch the video how is that the torch flame is conducting electricity could you please explain that one to me as best you can?
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“Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by power obtainable at any point in the universe...it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel-work of nature."
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water conducts electricity, i seen in one of the video's he was blowing the torch on some metal and water was running off
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You don't know if its over unity but you do know it saves energy?
How could it possibly save energy if it wasn't over unity? How is it cleaner than gas if it isn't over unity? The energy stored in the chemical bonds comes from the burning of gas. You can't get more energy out of those bonds than you put into creating them.
What video shows a flame conducting electricity? How do you know the flame is conducting energy?
And to the guy above, water is a poor conductor.
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