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 doitagain
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 Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8344843 - 04/30/08 01:56 AM (7 months, 2 days ago) |
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weiliiiiiii said:
John allen said a long time ago on this site that pan foes dont grow in horse pastures, but ive been finding a shit load of foes in the horse pasture ive been hunting in whats up with that. Im fairly new to the pasture subb thing, been picking weilii for 7 years. But the foes have twisted striations on the stipe and have really thick short stipes but give a brown print im confused! I thought foes had thin white stipes with straight striations on them, also bruise reddish brown on the stem. Any ideas
john allen says a lot of things.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8344925 - 04/30/08 03:21 AM (7 months, 2 days ago) |
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Those arent foes they are Panaeolus papilionaceus var. papilionaceus
A different pan species, at least that is what I think you are talking about. If so they will have black spores unlike foes that have brown spores. They are a good indicator that subbs could be close usually these pop up first then when it gets warmer subbs start popping up near these. Some say they can be active but Ive never tested them out. Not poisonus just maybe get the shits the next day if you arent so lucky  But since you say yours give a brown print Im not sure. Do you have a picture of the "foes?" I dont really look in the pasture but more the piles of crap that are behind the pastures and along the fense edges where you see lot of grass
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: coolboarderguy]
#8345663 - 04/30/08 11:38 AM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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ive seen pics of foes from last season in horse pastures but its very likely you have paps.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#8345772 - 04/30/08 12:09 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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Subbedhunter420 said:
Going back out today. plan on getting a good haul.
how did the hunt go?
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: fliped]
#8345837 - 04/30/08 12:37 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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Damn the weather has been so good lately and then bam hail wind and rain for the last 2 days,, poor little mushies
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: coolboarderguy]
#8345845 - 04/30/08 12:40 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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been having some crazy hail storms and winds in my area also
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: fliped]
#8346166 - 04/30/08 02:24 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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We are supposed to get a frosting tomorrow morning...good thing I went out today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My first subb finds!!!!!
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Found in stable refuse. didnt like pulling such small ones but figured the frost we are supposed to get overnight might kill them. Left a lot there...I think this is just the very beginning of the season in NJ-there should be a whole bunch more growing in a few weeks.
How many (if any) doses does this look like?
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Dishez]
#8346301 - 04/30/08 03:15 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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Nice finds man, they look fatty! Its interesting to notice that the subbs you just found look a bit different than the subbs ive been finding. There must be a lot of different types of subbs a wide variety. When you say stable refuse you mean all the stuff the scrape out of the stalls and pile up outside? Looks like maybe one dose, no more than that though. You need a good fresh ounce but more like 1.5 fresh ounces to equal 4 grams dried. Some nice blueing at the tips. I always cut mine with scissors above the base so I never see the blue 
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: coolboarderguy]
#8346333 - 04/30/08 03:30 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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Yeah I tried to cut as many as possible, but there were certain areas where I had to snatch em up and hide back behind the mounds of substrate...going to this specific place was pretty risky so i had to be careful about being too bold (i was crawling through mounds of stable shavings like a ninja lol) Cutting with scissors is def the way to go...the only ones that blued at the bottom were the dried out ones in pic two...im a little bit afraid to eat those ones!
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Dishez]
#8346348 - 04/30/08 03:35 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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Ha I know the feeling, I once had to hide behind a pile for like 30 min as the farmer was coming out to mess with the sheep, and another time i was checking out a pile on private airport and about 5 cop cars saw us and fallowed us when we got back in the car but never pulled us over
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Dishez]
#8346395 - 04/30/08 03:51 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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mmmmm beefy!!! Nice score man!!!
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: fliped]
#8346403 - 04/30/08 03:53 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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Eat those blue ones they are good, If your worried make a tea
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: coolboarderguy]
#8346565 - 04/30/08 04:52 PM (7 months, 1 day ago) |
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I went out yesterday evening around sunset and found my patch to be dwindling down. I plan on expanding to a new place that ive been scouting and i shall be sending the pics up once i get the chance. There was a change in the weather so this particular spot was affected heavily.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Subbedhunter420]
#8356875 - 05/03/08 06:18 AM (6 months, 30 days ago) |
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So when I was at my spot on wednesday, I left a bunch of younguns. When should I go back to get them? We've had rain thurday and friday, and the temps have ranged from the 40s at night to high 50s during day. Think any more will have come up in two days? should I hold of going? The place is risky so I dont want to chance going when it might not be worth it.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Dishez]
#8357364 - 05/03/08 11:31 AM (6 months, 29 days ago) |
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Had a nice hunt yesterday. Found 1.5 lbs fesh from 2 spots. I found some of the biggest subbs ive ever seen. I think I might have the record for the biggest! Here are a couple of pics, I have more good ones just not enough time to upload them.. Will put more later. Enjoy
Oh that first big one weighed 12 grams fresh! The others were still really huge too. Only like 9 grams.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: coolboarderguy]
#8357479 - 05/03/08 12:06 PM (6 months, 29 days ago) |
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That is insane!!!!! pics arent coming up though! i would make a LC from the inner stem of the giant one.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: Dishez]
#8357743 - 05/03/08 01:29 PM (6 months, 29 days ago) |
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I forgot whom but they posted a picture of a subbalteatus with 5 inch diameter on the cap.
ALso, 35 gram subbs are known to grow. Ive found a few.
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: coolboarderguy]
#8358587 - 05/03/08 06:04 PM (6 months, 29 days ago) |
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: coolboarderguy]
#8359280 - 05/03/08 09:49 PM (6 months, 29 days ago) |
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whoa i guees i have never found one that big with few as dose you may have a good day ,
some sort of blue grey bruising half way down the stem in all the specimen there ,real good
all my best vibrations today i found agaricus campestris
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Re: Official 2008 Panaeolus subbalteatus Thread [Re: coolboarderguy]
#8359385 - 05/03/08 10:14 PM (6 months, 29 days ago) |
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coolboarderguy said:
Ha I know the feeling, I once had to hide behind a pile for like 30 min as the farmer was coming out to mess with the sheep...
 I bet he wasn't counting on any witnesses to that incident!
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